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Aliens; are we alone
Topic Started: Dec 14 2010, 01:46 PM (446 Views)
Nimor	Dec 14 2010, 01:46 PM Post #1
Pteranodon Posts: 185 Group: Members Member #437 Joined: Nov 25, 2010 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: Bulgarian Favorite Quote: " The Sandwich always falls on the side of the butter. " Murphy	Well, I was interested in hearing your opinion on the matter: does life exist on other planets? Personally, I think it does.



Holben	Dec 14 2010, 02:05 PM Post #2
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Probability says yes. I don't think anyone who chose to go on this forum will say otherwise...
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


TheCoon	Dec 14 2010, 02:38 PM Post #3
Happy merry Jesusmas inhabitants of the Spec Forums! Posts: 646 Group: Members Member #241 Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Nationality: Mexican Favorite Quote: I have not told half of what I saw, for I knew I wouldn't be belived -Marco Polo	I don't know about you, but I think this should be in the Habitable Zone. As to the question, it is most probable they exist. The only thing is that we don't know what life truly is, thus we are searching only for life similar to our planet's. Maybe we already found aliens, but we still don't know it.
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Holben	Dec 14 2010, 02:39 PM Post #4
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Yup, Habitable Zone for this. But if we see life, we'll know it.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


TheCoon	Dec 14 2010, 02:43 PM Post #5
Happy merry Jesusmas inhabitants of the Spec Forums! Posts: 646 Group: Members Member #241 Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Nationality: Mexican Favorite Quote: I have not told half of what I saw, for I knew I wouldn't be belived -Marco Polo	We need to define better what life is. Even language or literature can be concidered as life, because they meet all the standards that scientists expect of life. (Adaptability, Evolution, etc.) Edited by TheCoon, Dec 14 2010, 02:44 PM.
	Greetings young life form! Procyon Lotor at your service.


SIngemeister	Dec 14 2010, 02:44 PM Post #6
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Away Staff Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	Unless of course it is somehow silicon based, in which case the greater likelihood is that we won't until we notice the rocks are moving. And life can probably be defined by the Seven Life Processes Movement Respiration Sensitivity Growth Reproduction Excretion Nutrition Edited by SIngemeister, Dec 14 2010, 02:47 PM.
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TheCoon	Dec 14 2010, 02:45 PM Post #7
Happy merry Jesusmas inhabitants of the Spec Forums! Posts: 646 Group: Members Member #241 Joined: Oct 20, 2009 Nationality: Mexican Favorite Quote: I have not told half of what I saw, for I knew I wouldn't be belived -Marco Polo	Unless it is a silicon plant. Then we'll be unable to determine if they are life, because they won't move.
	Greetings young life form! Procyon Lotor at your service.


Holben	Dec 14 2010, 02:46 PM Post #8
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	It won't be silicon based and active... Defining Life by MRSGREN isn't right, i reckon. Anyway, your examples are part of a bigger unit in culture, which adapts and drifts.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


SIngemeister	Dec 14 2010, 02:52 PM Post #9
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Away Staff Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	But MRS GREN is half my childhood....
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Holben	Dec 14 2010, 02:53 PM Post #10
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Well, i'm sorry, but most of that was taught wrong anyway.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


SIngemeister	Dec 14 2010, 03:00 PM Post #11
Hive Tyrant of the Essee Swarm Posts: 4,792 Group: Away Staff Member #49 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Formerly Anglo-Irish, now Gribbly Favorite Quote: "That's the least funniest thing ever." "BURNING ORPHANS!"	And there goes the rest of my childhood off to childhood heaven. Wait, why is it going down?
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Holben	Dec 14 2010, 03:06 PM Post #12
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Why didn't you spend your childhood reading science books, and sci-fi? Which is related to aliens, y'see.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


dialforthedevil	Dec 14 2010, 03:28 PM Post #13
Frumentarii Administrator Posts: 7,371 Group: Away Staff Member #323 Joined: Jun 8, 2010 Gender: Male Favorite Quote: "Every Human life is a spark in the darkness..."	I spent the majority of my childhood shooting pidgeons with my trusty bb gun and i always thought MRSGREN was right... do explain chap?
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Holben	Dec 14 2010, 03:30 PM Post #14
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Wiki To reflect the minimum phenomena required, some have proposed other biological definitions of life: * Living things are systems that tend to respond to changes in their environment, and inside themselves, in such a way as to promote their own continuation. * A network of inferior negative feedbacks (regulatory mechanisms) subordinated to a superior positive feedback (potential of expansion, reproduction). * A systemic definition of life is that living things are self-organizing and autopoietic (self-producing). Variations of this definition include Stuart Kauffman's definition as an autonomous agent or a multi-agent system capable of reproducing itself or themselves, and of completing at least one thermodynamic work cycle. * Life is a self-sustained chemical system capable of undergoing Darwinian evolution. * Things with the capacity for metabolism and motion. MRSGREN is closing doors to things we would know as life, like an AI.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


Scrublord	Dec 14 2010, 03:42 PM Post #15
Father Pellegrini Posts: 4,423 Group: Members Member #169 Joined: May 5, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: American (unfortunately) Favorite Quote: Life can seem a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It's never easy when there's so much on the line.	This topic is redundant. Let's lock it.
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