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Humans turning into robots
Topic Started: Nov 25 2010, 02:04 PM (4,298 Views)
Nimor
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I bet that most of you have seen that the way technology is going, people will start replacing lost hands or legs with robotic ones. What do you think about this?
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I doubt we'd be hodgepodges, it's more likely that people will want to look as natural as possible, so two arms, two legs, two eyes, one nose, one heart -another stored and paid for with insurance- plenty of brown fat, and any brain equipment hidden behind an ear, tucked beneath a bit of skin or hair, or something else.

We already have mechanical hands that can be controlled so those will probably continue being produced for people who do not want artificially grown flesh graphed onto their bodies...
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Perhaps this question could be best answered by someone that has lost a limb? Hey, one-legged man. I have a robotic leg that will allow you to walk again. Do you want it? I doubt anyone would cut off a limb in favor of a cyborg attachment but the technology is developing for the amputees. Would I give my old tired legs for a set of stilt legs handicapped basket ball players use? NO, of coarse not.
If cyborg attachments become an option in the future, before they become mainstream fashion wear I feel they will have been fully developed in medical institutions for the handicapped. However, the wearing of a cyborg glove over ones hand might have an appeal to certain industry and specialty workers. I don't see cyborg replacement parts for whole body humans anywhere in the future. Flesh is flesh.
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I'd like the silicon memory expansion. Now if only they;d figure out a way to stop the whole "Time speeds up as you age" thing. THEN I SHALL BE IMMORTAL!
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Time doesn't really speed up (I know you mean mentally), you just stop seeing every day as a brand new day frothing with adventure and so they just slip by without notice.
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Nov 25 2010, 02:08 PM
Well, no one knows what can happen after two centuries or so, and none of us will be around to see that.
I will. In my robot body.

I think it would turn out a lot more like Ghost in the Shell than something like the Borg. People will replace their bodies with machines for convenience and comfort. It's easier to just buy a new body than to get a new organ transplanted into you. Plus with a machine body, your appearance is fully customizable. There will still be plenty of people who choose not to cyberize, or don't have the money to, but for the most part it will just be another piece of technology, like a cellphone or laptop. Except this time you are the technology.

It would also have benefits. If your brain is supplemented with computers to the point where they are indistinguishable, an improvement in computer technology would also mean an improvement in brain capacity. Finding a way to use computer processors to boost brainpower could allow for creativity and logic well beyond the capabilities of the human brain alone. Already we have brain implants that allow direct brain-to-computer communication, and computer-to-brain interactions are the next step. It may be possible to use implants in the hippocampus to literally download knowledge directly to the brain; languages, math, history. Learning could become as easy as searching Google. Telepathy could become a reality, texting would be replaced by... Thoughting? I would certainly do it, but not in the beginning. The technology should prove itself as reliable before I go replacing my fleshy human body with it.
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Nov 25 2010, 10:51 PM
Time doesn't really speed up (I know you mean mentally), you just stop seeing every day as a brand new day frothing with adventure and so they just slip by without notice.
If I was 100 and I had an adveture lasting one week, I would think it lasted only days.



Parasky, you left yourself open to this.

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But... a week IS only days...

Heh, no worries, I'm sure it'll only be a temp ban.
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See prosthetics. They've existed for a very long time, only now are we getting to ones that open and close on demand. No reason to replace a limb if it's already there.

I agree with Spug, pretty soon we will be able to grow organs and limbs, or at least parts of them... that will essentially replace prosthetics as a whole. I doubt it would be a hodgepodge any more than the inside of a heart or kidney transplant patient, or a person's finger that has been reattached...

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Yeah!

And now you have to go in for major surgery every time you want a new cellphone, and you die if your battery isn't recharged. :rolleyes:

Connecting the human brain to a computer directly is bad news... viruses on my computer are bad enough, I don't want them in my brain. But I'm sure there are a number of ways to interface with computers that don't allow things like that to happen... a computer control based on EEG would be pretty interesting- it exists already, and would probably be more practical as a funky cap than something actually implanted in your head.

But AFAIK you still can't do much with it... I dunno, maybe move a cursor on a screen. Which get better with practice obviously.
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Well, I haven't thought of it that way, especially with the topic of the human brain needing to be recharged. I agree, connecting the human brain to a computer isn't a good idea. But what I meant was turning the brain itself into a selfdirected computer.
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That's still connecting the human brain to a computer, just an internal one, and not to any networks. Although that doesn't have the security absurdity of connecting your brain to say, the internet, but it still leaves it open to attack.

We already have memory storage and computation devices, and you don't have to have brain surgery to get a new one. And we've had them in some form or another for thousands of years, too...
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Are you plausible?

I've always thought Bicentennial Man was an interesting exploration of this concept.
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See prosthetics. They've existed for a very long time, only now are we getting to ones that open and close on demand. No reason to replace a limb if it's already there.

I agree with Spug, pretty soon we will be able to grow organs and limbs, or at least parts of them... that will essentially replace prosthetics as a whole. I doubt it would be a hodgepodge any more than the inside of a heart or kidney transplant patient, or a person's finger that has been reattached...

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Yeah!

And now you have to go in for major surgery every time you want a new cellphone, and you die if your battery isn't recharged. :rolleyes:

Connecting the human brain to a computer directly is bad news... viruses on my computer are bad enough, I don't want them in my brain. But I'm sure there are a number of ways to interface with computers that don't allow things like that to happen... a computer control based on EEG would be pretty interesting- it exists already, and would probably be more practical as a funky cap than something actually implanted in your head.

But AFAIK you still can't do much with it... I dunno, maybe move a cursor on a screen. Which get better with practice obviously.
We are not vunerable to computer viruses. Our brains don't read data that way.
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Wait - viruses? Do you think if the human brain became a computer it would be that vulnerable as a normal computer?
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I was saying they weren't. If the computer chip gets a virus, then we won't. Neo said something that was very unimnformed, so I had correct his mistake.
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I doubt you could infect a meaty human brain with a virus, the the same way you won't get woodworm if you have a peg leg.
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