Time Travel and the Alien Grey

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Time Travel and the Alien Grey; We are the Grey
Topic Started: Nov 15 2010, 02:56 AM (3,926 Views)
skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 02:56 AM Post #1
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	I don't believe UFOs are extraterrestrial visitors from another part of the galaxy. I believe they are us. Well, at least the descriptions assigned to the Alien Greys. Physics of interstellar travel aside, I just don't believe Earth would be a stop on any alien travel manifest. But...humor me a bit...Time traveling future humans might have a reason to visit us. Lets not get hung up on the Time Travel physics. I am more interesting in exploring what conditions could cause humans to evolve into a Grey. What is a Grey? "Wiki" According to English reproductive biologist Jack Cohen, the typical image of a Grey, given that it would have evolved on a world with different environmental and ecological conditions from Earth, is too physiologically similar to a human to be credible as a representation of an alien. Their physical structure has been sometimes viewed as supporting the Panspermia theory of origins, although the "parallel evolution" required is not scientifically plausible. The "parallel evolution" concept, utilized as a plot device by Star Trek writers Gene Roddenberry and Gene Coon and referred to as "Hodgkins Law of Parallel Planet Development". However, even this fictional theory does not explain such remarkable Grey-human similarities as the facial geometry, the apparent sternal-xiphoidal process, the evident pectoral-trapezial architecture, and the number of toes per foot.[14] One theory that could explain such seemingly impossible coincidences is the idea that extraterrestrial beings had some influence on the evolution of life on Earth in the distant past, specifically that extraterrestrials were directly involved in the evolution of primates, including humans. This was supposedly done by genetic engineering, cross-breeding, or a combination of both. This idea, regarded as nonsense by the mainstream science community, first gained widespread exposure with the 1968 publication of Chariots of the Gods? by Erich von Däniken and has since been the source of much controversy, and has inspired numerous other books with various related theories. Proponents of this theory of alien genetic/evolutionary intervention on Earth argue that if the Greys (or similar beings) were performing genetic manipulations and/or experiments with pre-human life forms on Earth, then it would be logical, and perhaps almost expected, that these alleged aliens may have attempted to influence the evolution of life forms here in a direction consistent with their own genetic makeup, and similar to their own physiology and general physical structure, since genetically that is what they would presumably be most familiar with. Since there is no evidence of what types of life or physiology might evolve on other habitable planets, no way to accurately gauge the likelihood or unlikelihood of coincidences in evolution on two separate planets, and no conclusive evidence of any alleged past extraterrestrial genetic manipulation in our own evolution, the debate over the evolutionary feasibility of the Greys (or any other bipedal, humanoid extraterrestrial species) is ultimately nothing more than speculation on both sides. This speculates panspermia or purposeful seeding of Earth but what if that is backward thinking. What if these lifeforms are our descendants from the far future. I mean just look at their depictions: What changes would have to occur to mutate a human being to look like that? I think it could happen. Perhaps we are dying out and they somehow mastered time travel and have come back for fresh DNA or something. Looking at the top picture http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/32/Alienigena.jpg/220px-Alienigena.jpg That thing looks all too human. It has bilateral symmetry. The skeletal structure looks like ours, there are changes in some features but they are all in the right places. If our brains were to grow larger wouldn't the extra mass form at the back of our heads? Just thinking of balance and symmetry. Feel the back of your head and you will notice your spine is at the back side of your skull. If mass increased wouldn't it try to balance over its pivot? LOL (I know) Ok this is a push because we are looking at a version far removed from us with no gradual links between us and them. The Eyes What conditions could cause Our eyes to become like those? Less light? Different light spectrum? Staring too long at a monitor? The sockets are slightly different but they are still eyes and they are specialized. Small Nose Our noses are already smaller than our ancestors. Perhaps our noses will continue to diminish over time. We buy our food prepackaged and processed for the most part now. We don't run from prey and we are usually confined to a conditioned environment. Small Mouth Perhaps in the future we develop food pastes or soylent green or something that requires less work to consume. In the far future what would we be eating? What other changes could cause our mouths and noses to reduce? Perhaps diet has something to do with the nose reduction as well? Upper Body Mass Overall body size too. Imagine centuries of being confined in a machine manipulating levers and jot sticks. Perhaps foot pedals as well. Less energy is being used to create work. Machines do all heavy work and all we do is control the machines. Our diet has diminished and we are secluded away from natural sunlight. I'm gunna leave this here. I am looking to get you all to help me explore this more. I really believe the Alien Grey is a time traveler from our own future. I wish to explore the changes to our planet that could cause us to be this finished product. Instead of creating a being as a finished product, lets take the finished product and figure out how it got that way.

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T.Neo	Nov 15 2010, 06:17 PM Post #16
Translunar injection: TLI Posts: 6,154 Group: Members Member #179 Joined: Jun 7, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	That's silly; humans don't adapt to those sorts of things, they adapt those things to them. Millions of years of evolution is one thing, but still, a grey makes very little sense to me... I mean, bigger eyes is one thing, but those eyes don't look human at all. Edited by T.Neo, Nov 15 2010, 06:18 PM.
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Spugpow	Nov 15 2010, 07:35 PM Post #17
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,025 Group: Members Member #389 Joined: Sep 20, 2010	They actually look more like chimpanzee eyes. The only reason our scleras are visible is to allow us to read one another's emotions. Perhaps the greys use "telepathy"(radio transmitters in the brain) for the same purpose. It's not hard to believe that future humans could develop oversized eyes in response to spending more time in darkness. Many nocturnal primates have done this. Spoiler: click to toggle Tarsier skull Spoiler: click to toggle Owl monkey skull
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skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 07:44 PM Post #18
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	Quote: Perhaps the greys use "telepathy"(radio transmitters in the brain) for the same purpose. Perhaps telepathy centers are in the rear part of the brain. (Hair on back of neck standing up) Perhaps the grey's enlarged rear cranium is to house a larger telepathy/intuition center. The bulge is directly out from the base mammalian brain at the center. It is an expanded area that we already have but is under developed.



skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 07:52 PM Post #19
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	As for eye size, with a smaller nasal cavity and related sinuses and a smaller pallet there would be more room for eyes to develop larger. Plus what we see may be some kind of protective covering or external filter for a much smaller eyeball within.



Spugpow	Nov 15 2010, 08:36 PM Post #20
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,025 Group: Members Member #389 Joined: Sep 20, 2010	I'm not sure how humans could evolve biological telepathy....
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skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 08:55 PM Post #21
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	Spugpow Nov 15 2010, 08:36 PM I'm not sure how humans could evolve biological telepathy.... Me either but we evolved vocal cords and learned how to manipulate them. We do sense danger and I cant count how many times I have sensed someone looking at me. Brains have chemical and electrical signals. Perhaps we learn to use that mechanism and it grows the more we use it. Just speculating.



Spugpow	Nov 15 2010, 09:06 PM Post #22
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,025 Group: Members Member #389 Joined: Sep 20, 2010	Okay, but how would we use that to communicate? Those chemical and electrical signals need to be broadcast somehow...
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skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 09:33 PM Post #23
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	Spugpow Nov 15 2010, 09:06 PM Okay, but how would we use that to communicate? Those chemical and electrical signals need to be broadcast somehow... Agreed Lets speculate? Pheromones transmit chemical signals thru air. Voice transmits sound thru air Movement transmits vibrations thru objects Body language transmits emotions thru sight Are you thinking what I'm thinking transmits intent thru common reference Awareness transmits environmental conditions thru familiarity Perhaps their eyes have evolved that way to sense auras? Perhaps they have developed an area of the brain that lets them manipulate their auras by will. Perhaps their eyes have a special receptor that can see subtle changes in the auras intensity and over time have learned to use that like we use our vocal cords and hearing.



Spugpow	Nov 15 2010, 10:06 PM Post #24
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,025 Group: Members Member #389 Joined: Sep 20, 2010	What's an aura? It sounds suspiciously like mumbo jumbo.
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Kamidio	Nov 15 2010, 10:07 PM Post #25
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Kamidio	Nov 15 2010, 10:20 PM Post #27
The Game Master of the SSU:NC Posts: 14,725 Group: Members Member #149 Joined: Mar 12, 2009 Nationality: Who knows?~♪ Favorite Quote: "Do you remember how many loaves of bread you have eaten in your life?" - Dio Gender: Dude	I'm watching a new episode of "Castle". It's about aliens.
	SSU:NC - Finding a new home. Quotes Steve Irwin I have no fear of losing my life - if I have to save a koala or a crocodile or a kangaroo or a snake, mate, I will save it. Satoru Iwata - Heart of a Gamer Even if we come from different sides of the world, speak different languages, even if we eat too many chips or rice balls, even if we wave different tastes in games, every one of us here today is identical in the most important way: each one of us was the heart of a gamer. The Writing on the Wall You should not have come here. This is not a place of honor. No great deed is commemorated here. Nothing of value is here. What is here is dangerous and repulsive. Parasky \| 2015 You can't be 100% certain Barack Obama is currently the US president, or that the nation of Canada even exists. Dan Avidan See, what I like to do now as an adult is take all that anger and frustration and push it down deep inside of me, until it becomes a seething white core of pure hate. Dan Avidan Follow your stupid fuckin' dreams. WAA http://31.media.tumblr.com/2f7731936cac777ea7b8cb26e8ccaab6/tumblr_inline_mxz9c7XmS41qa4twn.png636,360 http://tmv.proto.jp/reblog.php?post_url= A tool to reblog my own posts. I put it here because I know I'll forget it.


skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 10:21 PM Post #28
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	Spugpow Nov 15 2010, 10:06 PM What's an aura? It sounds suspiciously like mumbo jumbo. Quote: What is the human aura? The dictionary says "any subtle invisible emanation or exhalation." English authorities as a rule attribute the origin to a Latin term meaning "air," but Hindu authorities insist that it had its origin in the Sanskrit root Ar, meaning the spoke of a wheel. This is to remind us that the human aura radiates from the body of the individual in a manner similar to the radiation of the spokes of a wheel from the hub thereof. Most metaphysicians go by the Sanskrit definition while simultaneously seeing value in the Latin definition of an aerial emanation as 'not foreign,' to the real significance of the term. What will follow will be general principles of agreement as held by advanced occultists, both ancient and modern, while omitting minor points of variances between the different schools of thought. Read more at http://www.ironpalm.com/Aura.html Quote: In brief, there is an oval shaped etheric emanation surrounding humans within a distance of two to three feet all around the body. Some refer to the emanation as a 'psychic' or 'magnetic' field. Let me interject a martial principle and 'apply' it in a-priori (theory,) for the sake of explaining how it is we all 'feel' good or bad vibrations. Simply, in a world of contrast we choose to play in, there is only "law of attraction."



Kamidio	Nov 15 2010, 10:22 PM Post #29
The Game Master of the SSU:NC Posts: 14,725 Group: Members Member #149 Joined: Mar 12, 2009 Nationality: Who knows?~♪ Favorite Quote: "Do you remember how many loaves of bread you have eaten in your life?" - Dio Gender: Dude	TL;DR: It's the life force.
	SSU:NC - Finding a new home. Quotes Steve Irwin I have no fear of losing my life - if I have to save a koala or a crocodile or a kangaroo or a snake, mate, I will save it. Satoru Iwata - Heart of a Gamer Even if we come from different sides of the world, speak different languages, even if we eat too many chips or rice balls, even if we wave different tastes in games, every one of us here today is identical in the most important way: each one of us was the heart of a gamer. The Writing on the Wall You should not have come here. This is not a place of honor. No great deed is commemorated here. Nothing of value is here. What is here is dangerous and repulsive. Parasky \| 2015 You can't be 100% certain Barack Obama is currently the US president, or that the nation of Canada even exists. Dan Avidan See, what I like to do now as an adult is take all that anger and frustration and push it down deep inside of me, until it becomes a seething white core of pure hate. Dan Avidan Follow your stupid fuckin' dreams. WAA http://31.media.tumblr.com/2f7731936cac777ea7b8cb26e8ccaab6/tumblr_inline_mxz9c7XmS41qa4twn.png636,360 http://tmv.proto.jp/reblog.php?post_url= A tool to reblog my own posts. I put it here because I know I'll forget it.


skwirlinator	Nov 15 2010, 10:24 PM Post #30
Terminator Squirrel Posts: 307 Group: Members Member #418 Joined: Oct 18, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is 100% fatal - Skwirl	Kaiba Boy Nov 15 2010, 10:20 PM I'm watching a new episode of "Castle". It's about aliens. Cool, Captain Serenity Firefly should have no problem with that!



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