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Wow what has the USA got against Barack; give the guy a break
Topic Started: Nov 4 2010, 01:11 AM (3,723 Views)
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Blitzkrieging all the major cities at once is difficult, because there are just so many of them.

There are 9 cities in the US with a population of over 1 million, and 34 with a population of over 500 thousand.

The advanced state of military forces nowdays doesn't help when you're fighting the most advanced military. And it means even less when you are fighting an asymmetric war. If you think the radical islamic insurgents in the middle east are bad, you have not seen American insurgents.
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Because Norway is an ally.
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I know, that's why I'm so baffled by the thought of anyone trying to take a country that spans a continent. It wouldn't be like Europe, where you can capture a country, promise the neighbor you're not going to attack them, then make allies with them, it's going to be that no matter where you turn it's all going to be your enemy and it's all going to be united...

Then again what with that EU (scoffscoffscoff).
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Yes it is. Declaring war on Norway means you've got to deal with the rest of the Viking Nations.
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LoL, i think its hilarious how people still say stuff like 'america has the best military'. Remember Vietnam? by all the logic of that statement you should have won. truth is however,you lost, because in war its not the gun thats most important, its who's holding the gun. Morale and tactics, as well as individual initiative and chance, are more important than numbers and firepower (though both sides have to have weapons that can acually harm the opponent, eg both sides have to have guns from within the last two centuries). In a conventional war believe it or not, it matters the same. in WW2 for example, conventionally the Nazi troops had better weapons and armour than the Americans and Russians, but they still lost in a conventional war , due to the morale,tactics,logistics and the fact that many allied troops were more prepared to think for themselves rather than unquestionably obeying orders.
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No, seascorp. That was an asymmetric war, that is different... it can be compared to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Who is holding the gun" actually works in favour of the US... I mean, all those hardcore right-wing folks get all angsty against their fellow countrymen, so if someone was actually trying to invade their country...
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No country, except maybe China, could put a high enough force-to-space ratio to control the USA. Only ruthlessness and oppressive tactics wouild work, IMO.
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The Vietnam war was won in early 1968, the Viet Cong cleverly attacked during Tet when they hoped the fact that many people were celebrating would let them take over, and the South Vietnamese and allies utterly destroyed them as a military force, from then on the fighting was done by the Vietnamese People's Army. Had the American media done their job the North could have been forced to negotiation and we would have ended up with a situation much like Korea or Germany.

And the Nazis lost because there are more Americans and Russians than there are Germans, and more American and Russian factories.
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You're gonna need a whole lot of antimatter to totally destroy the US...

As for the situation in WWII, apparently it is Stalin who proclaimed, "quantity has a quality all its own". That sums up the German defeat pretty well; they had a lot of good technology, but it was costly, impractical, and often applied badly (or too late in the war).
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I'm fairly sure that's one of those famous quotes that was plain made up, like Yamamoto commenting on how American lawns are lousy with rifles. But it's correct.

Arthur C. Clarke wrote a story from the perspective of a imprisoned high ranking general explaining how his nation was defeated because of its superior weaponry. They built ships that could go out of phase. but each time they did they got a little warped and soon parts were not interchangeable, while the victorious party concentrated on just building more and more ships.
Hitler wasted a lot resources developing long range jet bombers when he should have focused on fighters to take down allied bombers.
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What is you guys opinion on how Britain has decided to partly merge its army with France? (Have i got that right or is it just the media blowing it up abit?)
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Why anyone would merge armies with France is beyond me. :P
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Sounds like bollacks to me. The closest thing to that is probably going to be the creation of something like the Franco-German Brigade for Eurocorps.

Sounds like this is Sarkozy doing a U-turn. We both need new carriers, and originally the French were going to work with us so they would eventually have a modified Queen Elizabeth Class carrier. In 2008 shortie said non. Sounds like he had a change of heart.
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I'm fairly sure that's one of those famous quotes that was plain made up, like Yamamoto commenting on how American lawns are lousy with rifles. But it's correct.


I dunno... I have a feeling some Soviet guy circa WWII came up with that, but I don't think it was Stalin himself.

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a good quote of stalin that is almost certainly propoganda is "i believe in one thing only, the power of human will"
there's also this one "the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is a statistic" though its not really propoganda
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