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Realistic Dinosaur Movie; A Dinosaur Movie that is actually life like
Topic Started: Nov 1 2010, 04:14 AM (2,500 Views)
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You know what really bugs me when Im watching dinosaur movies? Its when the dinosaurs are depicted as mindless killing machines who seem to only want to hunt down the humans and kill them. And it also bugs me that in Jurassic park a raptor goes up against a Trex in a fight. Yes it was cool but highly unrealistic. Its like an ant going up againts a frill neck lizard. Okay that was a bit exaggerated but you get the point. So I want to create a believable dinosaur action thriller that is realistic. Do you guys have any ideas?
Edited by ULTIMATE THEROPOD, Nov 1 2010, 04:14 AM.
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Do you have any budget?
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Don´t make their hands pronated.
Give them feathers.
Don´t make them too colorful.
Don´t make them roar.

If you think they´re now still "cool" enough go ahead.
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Nov 1 2010, 06:33 AM
Don´t make their hands pronated.
Give them feathers.
Don´t make them too colorful.
Don´t make them roar.

If you think they´re now still "cool" enough go ahead.
I think they're still cool enough...
Even documentaries these days are wildely inaccurate
especially Korean dino documentaries they suck those velociraptors from our documentaries are 100% Jurassic Park ripoff- the most inaccurate velociraptor you can get... Velociraptors are cats not lions you f**king dirctors!!

And the most f**king thing is that the hands are always pronated and they always roar...........


And It's all because of Jurassic Park: great movie, all right but scientifically??
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Actually i already know a dino thriller with extremely realistic dinosaurs... except it's a novel and it's Korean
I know the writer personally
It even has plausible dinosauroids with feathers and proper maniraptoran stance, not lizard-men
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The sad problem (and the main one) is that "accurate animal behavior" doesn't equal a good action thriller.

I dunno, maybe mix in some dinosaur poachers and make it about that? Or robots from the future covered in meat. :P

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Seconded. If you want it to look even half decent, you'll need a lot of money.

The Indy Mogul Backyard FX videos on Youtube are quite interesting- some of the effects they do look quite good for how much is spent on them. They've never done any sort of dinosaur or creature effect though.

But if you film and edit right... you can get a cheap, simple effect to do wonders. That's a hallmark of good filmmaking (and something the films of today lack; directors go overboard with effects, because they can- previously, when effects were expensive and limited, they had to resort to actually making a good film).

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Don´t make them too colorful.


What? That is just silly:
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Now, obviously larger organisms won't be as brightly coloured as say, parrots. But you need to look at examples in living organisms.

Though if you mean don't make them like this:
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Then I certainly agree. :ermm:

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Don´t make them roar.


So they can't have any vocalisations at all? I mean, I can understand dinosaurs in films etc roaring for dramatic effect when they wouldn't do so in reality, but that's just silly. Another thing that birds prove otherwise...
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dinosaur poachers sounds about right ;)

It'll need quite a lot of budget if you do it real properly, but if you can gather some CG magicians and concept artists, it can be possible with a relatively low budget.
I myself did concept art for some short films as well as some storyboards

EDIT: proper animal behavior doesn't equal a good thriller, but proper animal anatomy can equal a good thriller
EDIT EDIT: At least you don't really have to depict dinos as mindless killing machines
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Nov 1 2010, 06:33 AM
Don´t make their hands pronated.
Give them feathers.
Don´t make them too colorful.
Don´t make them roar.

If you think they´re now still "cool" enough go ahead.
When you say dont make them roar do you mean roar every ten seconds as they run through the forest or do you mean just absolute no roaring at all.
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I still want to capture a bit of the killing side of the dinosaurs but also the beauty of them. Similar to Avatar when you see the viperwolf playing with her young. Also how can I combine different dinosaurs from different periods into the same habitat. Plus I also want it to be pretty bloody. I want to have domesticated Triceratops with turrets on their backs. And my Trex has one arm and all these condor things sit on its back. But I want afew fictional species like quadrapedal tree raptors. I know they're not that realistic but Ill try to give them realistice behaviors.
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I want some feathered albertosauruses do you think this is realistic and if you were watching the movie would you like to see it?
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I'd be interested in seeing a "realistic" dinosaur movie, although I'm not too sure about the Triceratops with turrets. That said, if you could weave it into the storyline, it would certainly provide a unique twist to the plot.
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I'd be interested to see how realistic $200 will make it. :)
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Don´t make them too colorful.


What? That is just silly:

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Now, obviously larger organisms won't be as brightly coloured as say, parrots. But you need to look at examples in living organisms.

Though if you mean don't make them like this:
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Then I certainly agree. :ermm:

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Don´t make them roar.


So they can't have any vocalisations at all? I mean, I can understand dinosaurs in films etc roaring for dramatic effect when they wouldn't do so in reality, but that's just silly. Another thing that birds prove otherwise...
That Sinosauropteryx is actually the perfect example what I meant with "don´t make them too colorful". Or would you call brown, white and black "too colorful"? Matt Martyniuk has a nice guide to feather colors here: http://dinogoss.blogspot.com/2010/10/guide-to-feather-colors.html
He states that the structure of the single-filament protofeathers of most feathered dinosaurs doesn´t allow for structural colors like iridescent green or blue. And for bright red or yellow colors the animal needs to have a carotinoid-rich diet, so only dinosaurs feeding on plants (or plant-eating insects or dung from plant-eaters) can have that color.

Even in Dromaeosaurids the body is mostly covered in such protofeathers, but the pennaceous feathers on the arms and tail and head could have been more colorful. On the other hand predators usually aren´t very colorful since it makes them easier to spot for prey.


And all dinosaurs more basal than Enantiornithes lack clavicular air sacks and thus don´t have a syrinx, making them incapable of producing vocal sounds. So deep roars are certainly out of question, though they could have communicated with non-vocal sounds like hissing, clapping their jaws together or (in maniraptorans) beating their wings.
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