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| Topic Started: Aug 14 2010, 11:26 AM (1,494 Views) | |
| Dragon wasp | Aug 14 2010, 11:26 AM Post #1 |
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Ok i am sorry to disappoint those who were interested in my Dino project, but it will not continue on (lack of creativity on my part). instead i have combined two other projects: 1. short and simple; all mammals are monotremes, egg laying mammals 2. does any one know that there were multiple human species? well in this project all of them survive till present day. (i am also going to add some new ones of the ones that i am creating). I think that no one would be racist any more but instead speciest (to be against other species.) what do you think? |
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| Canis Lupis | Aug 14 2010, 11:42 AM Post #2 |
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So all mammals are descended from monotremes? With such a large variable changed, I doubt humans would even evolve. Assuming a sapient even evolved, the "humans" wouldn't be the same. If you change one variable, you change anything that comes afterwards. |
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| Dragon wasp | Aug 14 2010, 11:46 AM Post #3 |
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well, no. all mammals ARE monotremes we didn't evolve from platypus's.
thats a good point and i could make what the humans look like and are like. |
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| Pando | Aug 14 2010, 12:22 PM Post #4 |
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Well if all mammals didn't evolve from early monotremes then how would all mammals be monotremes? As Canis said humans can't evolve. Any sapient can't be a human. |
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| Rick Raptor | Aug 14 2010, 03:31 PM Post #5 |
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If all modern mammals would be monotremes they would´nt be as diverse as they are as Eutherians. Monotremes have more primitive digestive tracts and teeth and so on... they probably wouldn´t have produced large predatory or grazing forms. |
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| Canis Lupis | Aug 14 2010, 04:38 PM Post #6 |
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Heck, if all mammals after K-T were descended from monotremes, mammals might not have taken over the planet. |
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| Dean | Aug 14 2010, 05:15 PM Post #7 |
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Do they simply descend from egg-laying mammals, or monotremes? It's not the same, because the term "egg-laying mammal" can imply a near-therian that's capable of evolving everything therians evolved and just be different from therians by laying eggs, while "monotreme" implies that it's a member of Monotremata, thus it has a truckload of special adaptations and limitations that monotremes possess, like a degraded digestive system. |
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| Canis Lupis | Aug 14 2010, 05:21 PM Post #8 |
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If this was a world where synapsids remained the dominant group of mammals, never evolving eutherian tendencies, then you could potentially get a large amount of diversification. Still no humans though. |
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| Dean | Aug 14 2010, 05:27 PM Post #9 |
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Well, as it looks like, even among true mammals, only therians evolved a true erect gait, while every other mammal kept the semi-erect therapsid gait. If the ancestor of therians first evolved an erect gait, and only after that, viviparity, then this world could diverge there. Their gait becomes erect, but they remain oviparous. From this, they could evolve metatherian and eutherian bodyforms but still keep egg-laying. Although I read somewhere that the development of a large mammalian brain requires a placenta, so I don't know if oviparous humans are possible. Near-sapient oviparous species like the Corvids are possible because while their brain is complex, it's better-constructed than the mammalian brain and can be smaller and still have a bigger capacity. Edited by Dean, Aug 14 2010, 05:30 PM.
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| Ook | Aug 14 2010, 05:31 PM Post #10 |
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if you want egg laying mammals,why not take some allotheres?they were pretty diverget in mesozoic |
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| Dean | Aug 14 2010, 05:34 PM Post #11 |
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But because allotheres had the therapsid semi-erect gait, they could never evolve any bodyform other than a rodent-like one. Cynodonts, basal real mammals, Allotheres, Multituberculates and Monotremes are all like rodents, not because they didn't have a chance to diverge, multis lived for 100 million years for example, but because the semi-erect gait didn't allow other kinds of bodyplans. Edited by Dean, Aug 14 2010, 05:36 PM.
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| Dragon wasp | Aug 15 2010, 12:27 PM Post #12 |
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so could my project work? |
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| Canis Lupis | Aug 15 2010, 01:24 PM Post #13 |
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As two seperate projects, it could. But as the same project, no. |
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| Dean | Aug 15 2010, 01:33 PM Post #14 |
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Yes, by splitting up into two separate projects it could work. 1. A project about either every mammal is a monotreme, or every mammal is egg-laying. If they are all monotremes they are restricted by the limitations of the monotreme group, if they are simply egg-laying they could evolve into more diverse forms. 2. A project about multiple human species surviving in modern times. They couldn't really work together, because monotremes could never evolve Hominid forms because of their limitations, and no egg-laying mammal can be as smart as a human because of the way the mammalian brain functions. Edited by Dean, Aug 15 2010, 01:35 PM.
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| Dragon wasp | Aug 15 2010, 01:39 PM Post #15 |
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okay i think i'll scrap the monotreme part but keep the multiple humans. |
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