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The Game of My Dreams
Topic Started: Aug 11 2010, 03:10 PM (4,282 Views)
Holben
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Nope, that's a silly, implausible and inefficient design.

Saturn V rocket.
Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea.

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So, the RB-79 Ball then?


Something like that. But that gun looks like it would cause serious problems with angular rotation etc...

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.............. Thats the same for all wars regardless where they are, the infantry are always easily killed, vulnerable and underpowered


Those are wars on the ground. You don't see paddling soldiers during naval battles, or people flying around on jetpacks trying to shoot down fighter jets. It will be the same with space war.

The only fighting that is going to occur with personnel "on foot" is inside spacecraft, or in an attempt to board a spacecraft.

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@T.Neo, im sorry you have to hear this but, No one gives a shit about how far the moon is up or whether shattered horizon has an accurate depiction of where the moon is, just talk about the goddamn game


Excuse me... that is a tad rude. Others here have expressed their interest in such discussions, and I was doing just that- talking about the goddamn game. :o

The position of the lunar fragments is incorrect. What should I talk about instead? The way the CD cover opens and closes?
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I'm sure that spacecraft can have robot sentries or whatever which can be called upon. But an IFF system might be tampered with...
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Well you still have paratroops, marines and navy divers. And I should mention it's a recoilless gun.
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Well you still have paratroops, marines and navy divers.


Exactly. That's where I think shipboard combat, or combat while boarding ships, comes in.

Any such combat would have many similarities with navy diving operations IMO, since they have to deal with a lot of similar problems.

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And I should mention it's a recoilless gun.


It still doesn't make sense.

I mean, it is from a universe where they end up using gigantic anthropomorphic mechs as fighting vehicles...

The basic concept would still make sense though. I'd give them something like a high velocity grenade launchers though, or heavy machine guns.

Or heck, a bunch of wireguided missle tubes...
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@T.Neo: sorry i was rude, i was pissed that day
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Well you still have paratroops, marines and navy divers.


Exactly. That's where I think shipboard combat, or combat while boarding ships, comes in.

Any such combat would have many similarities with navy diving operations IMO, since they have to deal with a lot of similar problems.
If you want to get the maximum amount of troopers in the enemy ship, how about a 'pod' fronted by a thick whipple shield? The impact force is taken by the shield, then the pod can bury into the enemy's armour. The pod then disgorges viruses, troops, DOOM slime etc.

If you removed the whipple shield, you could use it a s aprojectile in emergencies.
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seascorpion, that's fine. I often get pissed off at stuff, so I understand why you'd do something like that.

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If you want to get the maximum amount of troopers in the enemy ship, how about a 'pod' fronted by a thick whipple shield? The impact force is taken by the shield, then the pod can bury into the enemy's armour. The pod then disgorges viruses, troops, DOOM slime etc.

If you removed the whipple shield, you could use it a s aprojectile in emergencies.


Acceleration would kill the troopers, and probably the pod no matter what it's made of.

Some sort of "pod" might make sense for crew transfer, then they'd have to either force their way in through an airlock or somehow manage to cut through the hull.
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Weel, if we're a few million km away we can accelerate at something like 2Gs. Not so fast, but.

Yeah, cutting i thought. Weakened by the pod hitting it, plasma torches or drills can grind through the armour. Though they'd need a mighty power source. Antimatter?
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Weel, if we're a few million km away we can accelerate at something like 2Gs. Not so fast, but.


It is not the acceleration, it is the deceleration. At those speeds, the pod would vaporise or even turn to plasma upon impact. Even at a tenth of the speed of true hypervelocity, the pod and it's inhabitants would be completely wrecked.

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Yeah, cutting i thought. Weakened by the pod hitting it, plasma torches or drills can grind through the armour. Though they'd need a mighty power source. Antimatter?


No, you don't cut through where the armor is thickest, you cut through where the armor is thinnest. If you are going to cut through a meter thick carapace of solid aluminium, good luck. Mind you the weakspots, like around airlocks etc, might still be very hard to get into.

Antimatter is really difficult stuff to store. I suspect it would be impractical.
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Missiles can be jammed and are comparatively easy to shoot down, a big, dumb hunk of metal and explosives can't be tricked and is damned hard to shoot down.

What I'd like is a pole with a few seats on it and a engine, maybe a machine gun at the front to transport troops on.
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I want to see a TOW missle getting shot down. It's wireguided with a laser illumination of the target maybe, so it isn't that easy to jam.
And the thing is going damn fast too, it'll be difficult to track over a short distance.

Some sort of open-frame structure with thrusters and rudimentary armament (as well as cutting devices) might be a good idea, although they wouldn't have good range at all- just a Delta V of a few tens of meters per second, to make a ~500 meter jump across from one spacecraft to another.
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The problem with torps or missiles is that between the firing and impact, the ship has moved several kilometres. This is at close range.

A guided pod full of antimatter, contained by a magnetic field, can follow the ship or perhaps intercept its vector as a missile could but far more accurately due to constant on board updates.
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A pod of anti-matter. If we're going with that one might as well build a space vehicle that manoeuvres in space by adjusting it's limbs like a astronaut in a space suit, Active Mass Balance Auto Control or AMBAC as it is also know but greatly increase it's size to allow it to take on other. A Mobile Suit if you will.

Then paint it red to make it 3 times as effective.

Actually a first person shooter/mecha simulator would be pretty badass.
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A pod of anti-matter. If we're going with that one might as well build a space vehicle that manoeuvres in space by adjusting it's limbs like a astronaut in a space suit, Active Mass Balance Auto Control or AMBAC as it is also know but greatly increase it's size to allow it to take on other. A Mobile Suit if you will.

Then paint it red to make it 3 times as effective.

Actually a first person shooter/mecha simulator would be pretty badass.
Why put limbs on a pod? All it needs is to go fast. So yes red, and yes flame designs. ;)
Just have five thrusters to allow totoal manoevrability.



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