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| Topic Started: Aug 11 2010, 03:10 PM (4,283 Views) | |
| Holben | Aug 15 2010, 12:18 PM Post #76 |
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Yeah, and the horn purifies anything it touches. It can't resist human virgins, can shove its horn straight through a tree, makes people go to sleep by singing and is a representative of a god. Hmmm. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| T.Neo | Aug 15 2010, 12:26 PM Post #77 |
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What Holben said about Quantum entanglement. It's doubtful that such a thing could be used for FTL communication, and if it could I doubt we would be anywhere near to creating an operational system with it. Fusion power does not entail "tiny stars". There are two major ways to create fusion, magnetic confinement and inertial confinement. Inertial confinement would be the closest to being a star, but it's more a case of shooting at a pellet of hydrogen ice with a number of lasers. And there's also colliding beam fusion, which for some reason hasn't been the subject of much research. There was plenty of stuff in science fiction relating to messing around with biology. It might have not used the term "genetics", but it's there. Like the creation of castes in Brave New World.
What satellite is this? It sounds pretty damn awesome... AFAIK the best at planet detection we have is Kepler, but that relies on the transit method and can only give rudimentary data on the chemistry of the atmosphere.
Fair point, but they're nowhere near as popular as franchises such as Star Trek or Star Wars. And what is shattered horizon anyway? It's apparently a first-person shooter set in microgravity, but from what I saw of the trailer it didn't look very "hard". In the 1950s, the 1940s, the Raygun Gothic depictions of a future in space were actually based on very real science and technology of the time. And these were the depictions in every young boy's bedroom. Granted there have been much good hard SF literature, but they and the works you described haven't enjoyed the popularity of other, soft SF. And I don't mean popularity within the sci-fi and scientifically minded community, I mean popularity with average people. Then again there is Avatar, which James Cameron gave a very interesting scientific backdrop to. But it isn't going to be famous for the 30 second shot of the interstellar cargo ship, it's going to be famous for it's graphics and the fact that millions of people loved it for it's idyllic depiction of blue catpeople IN SPACE and environmental themes. Edited by T.Neo, Aug 15 2010, 12:27 PM.
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| lamna | Aug 15 2010, 12:45 PM Post #78 |
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It is the most realistic space based shooter, if you're talking about the gunfire then that's simulated by the suits to help people fight in space. Oh and what's the point of discussing how hard science fiction is not very popular? And by "what's the point" I'm not being snarky, I don't know why we are talking about it anymore. |
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| T.Neo | Aug 15 2010, 01:41 PM Post #79 |
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Your own gunfire or other people's gunfire? Your own gunfire is understandable (vibrations will be transmitted through the suit from the gun, though recoil would probably override it). Gunfire from other people might just be too much trouble to implement. After all, a big effect of gunfire is the psychological effect if has on the enemy, and cutting it out might improve things a good deal. Then again encouraging the soldier to take cover would be advantageous, but he should damn well know to do that anyway. You might also have free gas around though, that sound could propagate through. Which might be very plausible given all the guns firing and whatnot. Probably wouldn't be like hearing through a 1-bar atmosphere though. And what the hell is the point of individual soldiers with jetpacks in space? It just seems a bit... iffy. They couldn't even give them pods like from 2001 equipped with machine guns? EVA is a hugely risky activity without being shot at. "Most realistic space based shooter" isn't really saying much though. And they do seem to do things that are a bit iffy, like stick to asteroids and manuver a bit like jet fighters (though if you do it right, you can manuver quite intuitively with translation thrusters). It's actually very hard to "stick" to something in space (hence why the ISS is covered in attachment points and handholds for crew and equipment). Land on an asteroid and you'll easily bounce off it. And the jetpack thrusters are waaaay too high performance compared to those on say, the MMU. Those had a pitiful thrust and were only designed for a small amount of DeltaV (velocity change, it's the closest thing to range in space). And the guns don't act like thrusters either (unless there's some explanation in a compensation system in the jetpack). And why are lunar debris in MEO? The Moon is much, much further out. That ring looks like it's 2 000 km up, the Moon is 363 104 km up. And EVERY single piece of fiction that portrays the moon as having a nice pretty crack in it, is getting it completely wrong. Stuff starts acting like liquid in those amounts- a surface blast will remove a lot of regolith creating a crater but not disrupt the moon to such a degree, and a blast at depth would probably cause a planetwide earthquake and some crustal shifting, but won't cause a crack. To cleave the Moon apart in any way, you'd need an ungodly powerful explosive device that would probably turn the Moon mostly into magma, and cause a spray of debris and then a resettlement into a sphere. Such a device would be so bright, that the debris could would probably be the last thing people on Earth would be worrying about.
I think we have a tendancy of going offtopic...
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| Kamidio | Aug 15 2010, 01:43 PM Post #80 |
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| T.Neo | Aug 15 2010, 01:58 PM Post #81 |
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More offtopicness (sorry Ononokusu )...Let's say we want to accelerate a quarter of the Moon (1.837e22 kg) to around 1250 m/s (velocity of a low lunar orbit). You need 1.43509765625e+28 joules, or about 3429965718000 megatons. The Nuclear weapons calculator says that such a bomb will vaporise a thickness of 263.7 millimeters of aluminium at the distance between the Earth and the Moon, and at that distance the heat flux would be 772893.938 Megawatts/cm^2. I doubt it would be a very happy day for the people on the side of the Earth facing the Moon. It would also create a neutron flux of 1.433e+37 neutrons/m^2 at the same distance. I don't know how that correlates into radiation damage to humans and/or other organisms, but it can't be good. Our atmosphere would provide us with a good deal of shielding, but it won't help much. And if any EMP is generated, it'd be horrendously destructive. Edited by T.Neo, Aug 15 2010, 01:58 PM.
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| lamna | Aug 15 2010, 02:10 PM Post #82 |
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I'm fairly sure the all the gunfire is sound effects, it's triggered by it sensing muzzle flashes and if you can't see them then the fire is silent. But I might be wrong about that. Everyone has a jetpack because the ability to move is fairly important to solider. You mean like the RB-79 Ball from Gundam? That would be cool, but horribly expensive. Plus both factions are improvising, the MMC must have a very small tech base and earth can't be doing all that well either. ![]() Hoe long do we think the game will take to come out. |
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| T.Neo | Aug 15 2010, 02:39 PM Post #83 |
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Just because "the ability to move" is important doesn't mean the jetpack is actually technologically feasible...
I meant like the EVA pod from 2001, with weapons. It would make less sense than some sort of dedicated, larger space vehicle, but more sense than a person in a suit. They'd be horribly, horribly vulnerable like that.
Infinity? A while still, but it has all the properties of vapourwear... |
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| lamna | Aug 15 2010, 02:49 PM Post #84 |
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So, the RB-79 Ball then? http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/RB-79_Ball |
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| seascorpion | Aug 15 2010, 04:20 PM Post #85 |
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.............. Thats the same for all wars regardless where they are, the infantry are always easily killed, vulnerable and underpowered @T.Neo, im sorry you have to hear this but, No one gives a shit about how far the moon is up or whether shattered horizon has an accurate depiction of where the moon is, just talk about the goddamn game Edited by seascorpion, Aug 15 2010, 04:20 PM.
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| lamna | Aug 15 2010, 04:54 PM Post #86 |
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Well that's a tad rude. |
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| Holben | Aug 16 2010, 03:19 AM Post #87 |
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More than a tad. That's warning material, right there. Would it be permitted to say how i care? I'm very interested in physics/alternative scenarios/future capabilities. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| lamna | Aug 16 2010, 11:36 AM Post #88 |
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Keep it vaguely related to space and gaming and you're fine. |
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| Holben | Aug 16 2010, 02:18 PM Post #89 |
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Well, can we discuss plausible spaceships here? |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| Kamidio | Aug 16 2010, 03:30 PM Post #90 |
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