Deer and Antelopes After Man

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Deer and Antelopes After Man
Topic Started: Aug 1 2010, 12:03 PM (3,135 Views)
Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 12:03 PM Post #1
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Do you think that Deer will survive After Man and if so what do you think will become of them?
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Ook	Aug 2 2010, 03:05 AM Post #61
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	with lot of herbivores and big herds of herbivores,there will be plenty of dead animals,coyotes as adaptibile animals could became hyena analogues Edited by Ook, Aug 2 2010, 03:07 AM.



Holben	Aug 2 2010, 03:07 AM Post #62
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	But their lonely behaviour and mandibles incline them to a hunter-which-eats-rodents-eggs-and-insectivores niche. Their scavenging abilities come from following wolves and other carnivores.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


Ook	Aug 2 2010, 03:10 AM Post #63
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	scavengers must be extremely social? /irony about mandibles,they could became more specialized to bone crushing



dialforthedevil	Aug 2 2010, 03:19 AM Post #64
Frumentarii Administrator Posts: 7,371 Group: Away Staff Member #323 Joined: Jun 8, 2010 Gender: Male Favorite Quote: "Every Human life is a spark in the darkness..."	In England we have lots of escaped species,muntjac are a good example also there are rumours of big cats living in the moors around the south of England. They could easily live there undetected there is pleny of food and space. Also elephants could easily bounce back in the southern states of America, they used to live there why not again?
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Ook	Aug 2 2010, 03:21 AM Post #65
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	small scattered population,inbreeding etc.?



Holben	Aug 2 2010, 03:24 AM Post #66
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Bexi Aug 2 2010, 03:10 AM scavengers must be extremely social? /irony about mandibles,they could became more specialized to bone crushing No, but that's what makes hyenas so good at scavenging. Coyote mandibles to bone crushing? How?
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


Ook	Aug 2 2010, 04:20 AM Post #67
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	p,lenty of herbivores plus big carnivores= plenty of carcasses,some started to eat only carcasses left by bigger carnivores-specialisation did you know about Borophaginids?



Holben	Aug 2 2010, 04:48 AM Post #68
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	I know about borophagines. They're the dogs which evolved crushing teeth. But they are seperate from these dogs, and were in different circumstances.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


Ook	Aug 2 2010, 04:59 AM Post #69
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	its not impossible for today canids to evolve into bone crushing scavengers



Holben	Aug 2 2010, 05:22 AM Post #70
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	It isn't impossible, but it's unlikely. There's no niche for them.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


Carlos	Aug 2 2010, 05:32 AM Post #71
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Quote: WOlves are the most efficient predatirs out of all the ones you mentioned, the fastest and one of the most intelligent. They have a good foothold and can survive in all of the USA, whereas all the others are confined to the south. A hyena is smaller, slower and has less body strength than a wolf. And wolf packs are one of the most advanced social structures in the world. I hope you are joking. Do you know how big, strong and intelligent a hyena is? Those animals even have politics, while wolves are still just a hive mind controlled by a breeding pair. Sir, you did no homework regarding the social structures of pack hunters, let along any research on hyenas. Seriously, even on today modern striped hyenas wipe out their wolf competitors on the middle east!
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Ook	Aug 2 2010, 05:38 AM Post #72
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	Bexi Aug 2 2010, 04:59 AM its not impossible for today canids to evolve into bone crushing scavengers how about bone crushing scavengers?i think they could easily fit this niche



Practically Uninformed	Aug 2 2010, 05:50 AM Post #73
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Ook	Aug 2 2010, 06:45 AM Post #74
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	domestic cats are more wild than domesticated..it s very likely that north america will have in near future many species of small cats(like old world) which were descendants of feral cats



Holben	Aug 2 2010, 12:04 PM Post #75
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	JohnFaa Aug 2 2010, 05:32 AM Quote: WOlves are the most efficient predatirs out of all the ones you mentioned, the fastest and one of the most intelligent. They have a good foothold and can survive in all of the USA, whereas all the others are confined to the south. A hyena is smaller, slower and has less body strength than a wolf. And wolf packs are one of the most advanced social structures in the world. I hope you are joking. Do you know how big, strong and intelligent a hyena is? Those animals even have politics, while wolves are still just a hive mind controlled by a breeding pair. Sir, you did no homework regarding the social structures of pack hunters, let along any research on hyenas. Seriously, even on today modern striped hyenas wipe out their wolf competitors on the middle east! I was joking and exaggerating in some areas, but it's stretching it to call them a hive and-or inferior in social politics. Yes, they do. In the middle east, where it's hot. Wolves do far better OOP NORTH.
	Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed."


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