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Deer and Antelopes After Man
Topic Started: Aug 1 2010, 12:03 PM (3,137 Views)
Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 12:03 PM Post #1
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Do you think that Deer will survive After Man and if so what do you think will become of them?
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Carlos	Aug 1 2010, 05:19 PM Post #31
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	I think its pretty onvious deer are very likely to survive. What is really interesting, however, is the mechanics of the future evolution of ungulates in America. Assuming deer and the pronghorn inherit North America after mankind is gone, deer will stick to the forests while pronghorn dominate the plains. Deer will offer no competition for pronghorn because they are slower and because they loose their antlers for a good part of the year, while pronghorns keep their horns always. The only way pronghorn will disappear is if the antelopes manage to survive, and even then pronghorn have proved to be very versatile. That, combined with the fact no antelope introduced in North America is really analogous to the pronghorn, pretty much means they will be fine. And really, I think the faster pronghorn will be more prone to survive. Eventually, if the temperatures increase in North America, deer will prevail over the other ungulates, as mentioned before.
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Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 05:22 PM Post #32
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Yah.....I think that possibly pronghorns may get back to beautiful forms they had in the past....Kudu like fourms, medium sized grazers, and small fast runners.
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Carlos	Aug 1 2010, 05:42 PM Post #33
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Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 05:43 PM Post #34
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Yah.....ok 1. Dik Dik Like Forms(As John said) 2. Gazelle Like Runners 3. Large Kudu or Cattle Like Forms Imagine looking over the future American Savannah with all those species of Pronghorns
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Ook	Aug 1 2010, 05:46 PM Post #35
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	do you have some bigger herbivore analogues?(wild cattle,elephants,rhinos etc.) i think if proghorn survive,bison will survive too
Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 05:49 PM Post #36
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Ohhh....well there can be at least large antelope analoges....Elephant and Rhino analoges of Pronghorn are very unlikely....leave that up to escaped zoo elephants if they manage to surive on the prarie.
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Ook	Aug 1 2010, 05:54 PM Post #37
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	ehh i dont mean they must be descendants of proghorn(or deer or antelope) i think that there is too small population of elephants in north american zoos,as well as that population will be very small,so they could survive for some years,but as species,they have no future in NA
Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 05:57 PM Post #38
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Yah....zoo animals would be spread to far out....
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Ook	Aug 1 2010, 06:02 PM Post #39
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	there is species,which could survive,but elephants are too unlikely..some big cats,giraffes at south,many ungulates and even marsupials could survive almost all zoos have tigers,lions or leopards and they could survive in many enviroments and thank to their big teritories and reproduction rate..
Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 06:06 PM Post #40
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Yah....Lions should do decent....and then America could have a True American Lion....
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Ook	Aug 1 2010, 06:10 PM Post #41
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	yeah and after they go wild,they will hunt first escaped antilopes i think that tigers and leopards could live mainly in temperate and boreal areas of north america and in warmer parts they will be replaced by lions and jaguars(but evolution is evolution,there could be easily only descendants of leopards,or jaguars pwn them all )
Carlos	Aug 1 2010, 06:14 PM Post #42
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	I think that either the cougar or the escaped leopards would eventually replace the other felines, since they are more adaptable. However, for a while escaped megafauna as well as bisons will allow the survival of lions and tigers; probably for the next one or two million years
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Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 06:14 PM Post #43
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Leopards and Jaguars would likely inhabit the South....Jaguars would be in Heaven in the swamps of the US....As Well as Tigers...
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Carlos	Aug 1 2010, 06:15 PM Post #44
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Thinking well, it would probably either mean the death of the native cougars and jaguars, or the death of introduced leopards and tigers
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Alloclaw	Aug 1 2010, 06:16 PM Post #45
Newborn Posts: 48 Group: Members Member #338 Joined: Jul 2, 2010 Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "Evolution is like a road, there are many twists and turns	Ya but Wolves would get their azzes kicked with Lions around!!! Edited by Alloclaw, Aug 1 2010, 06:17 PM.
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