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What's your Apocalypse plan?
Topic Started: Jul 21 2010, 02:23 PM (12,801 Views)
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I s'pose that's when your blimps and 'copters come into play, shoot down on them.

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Missile lock things that mean nothing and not chainguns, but revolver and gatling cannons that are not only overkill but completely impractical for shooting at pterosaurs.
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Iberoamerica? What's Iberoamerica?

A federal kingdom made up of Spain minus the Basque areas, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, Costa Rica, Panama, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic (though Haiti has expanded east a bit) and Zulia (part of Venezuela at present).

Ukraine's a big country plenty of potential, especially after they weaken and expand into Russia, then annex the whole place. They are a bit... eccentric, the Nazi Germany of their age. Though it's far less centralized (they don't have a single man who's vision they are following) and generally more sane because of that, until they start to lose. After they do they adopt a scorched earth policy and decided to place all their hopes in sending 100,000 Ukrainians to the stars.

Note that this takes place far in the future, several generations after humanity colonises space.

The Volkstaat controls the south of Namibia, Northern Cape, North West and Free State. Ukraine provided a nasty Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging-type movement with a anti-Bantu "virus" that sterilised about 60% of Bantu people that got infected and killed 20% outright but it was more or less harmless to other ethnic groups. They seized power in the chaos, and the legitimate government asked for UK aid and eventually was annexed. Apart from Limpopo, who went off on their own.
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You can have missiles which explode when they near the target, or lock on to laser-painted objects.
Missiles need a lock to release and laser paint locks to metal.
As I recall no fighters use guns anymore.
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You recall really really badly. For a short time in the 60's some people thought cannons were useless and only used missiles, but Vietnam showed them they are not.

I can't think of a single modern fighter that does not have a gun.
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Oh yeah, the whole "why do we need guns? We've got missiles! Guns are crappy WWII things!"

Of course modern fighters have guns. But they are kind of... backup weapons. It isn't all Battle Of Britain with jets, but a gun can be extremely useful.

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After they do they adopt a scorched earth policy and decided to place all their hopes in sending 100,000 Ukrainians to the stars.


Uh... ok... they are mad.

All I can say is good luck getting 100 000 people into space and having them form an effective civilisation... without... someone else taking them out.

Got a map of this speculative speculative geopoliticalkick? When would it supposedly occur? 2200 CE? 2400 CE?

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Note that this takes place far in the future, several generations after humanity colonises space.


Where are these colonies and what role do they play? Is it only Ukraine in space, or are the Americans and the Iberoamericans and the Chinese and the Brazillians and the Australians there as well?

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The Volkstaat controls the south of Namibia, Northern Cape, North West and Free State. Ukraine provided a nasty Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging-type movement with a anti-Bantu "virus" that sterilised about 60% of Bantu people that got infected and killed 20% outright but it was more or less harmless to other ethnic groups. They seized power in the chaos, and the legitimate government asked for UK aid and eventually was annexed. Apart from Limpopo, who went off on their own.


Uh, I hate to tell you this, but... either South Africa falls apart and most minorities who can emigrate leave, with caucasians becoming a very marginalised minority of a few hundred thousand at most, and the country being mostly like those up north, or the whole thing develops and people who want Volkstaats or White Supremacy become nutcases or historical cases, to laugh at...

In other words, in a future South Africa, volkstraat-yearning, white supremacists will be the African equivalent of the Westboro Country Church. Or the country goes to shit.

Also, sterilise 60% of Bantu people and guess what? They're still alive, you've killed millions, and most that have survived are now infertile. Guess what they're going to do to the people (they think, or who they find out) did it to them? And... you do realise that this virus is not going to be restricted by borders, and is thus going to surge upward into the rest of Africa's Bantu population, as well as people in the Americas?

If it's ever found out that the Ukrainians were behind the virus, they are pretty much done for, one way or another...

So Limpopo becomes a new country? Now that'd be interesting... the divided states provinces of South Africa! Neat!
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My plan? Die. I'm not in great shape and have a host of physical and mental issues. Without modern society, I'd die. Instead, I get to enter the breeding pool. Goodbye natural selection!
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Oh wow. I'm so amazed at your sacrifice to better the gene pool of humanity. :rolleyes:


You seem to have some bad self-worth issues, Cephalian. :|
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I would try to live. Not be like that. Actually try to not get eaten. Pick up a gun, shoot, stay with the group of people. I have decent aim.
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Oh wow. I'm so amazed at your sacrifice to better the gene pool of humanity. :rolleyes:


You seem to have some bad self-worth issues, Cephalian. :|
Not self worth issues, just a good knowledge of my limitations without modern medications. Self-Depricating humor aside, it would depend entirely on how long it took for the apocalypse to happen. If it was gradual enough I could get the mental issues under control and get body into shape - not horrifically obese or anything. Most apocalypse scenarios, however, don't allow for that type of time, so without a good bit of luck early on I'd be dead. Also, I'd be in huge trouble if my glasses broke. My survival would depend largely on my friends - three of my best friends are ex-military, one's a park ranger, and one's a mechanical engineer that hunts on the weekends. If I was with them, I'd be fine. And of course I"d try to live - never been a quitter, just going to overall likelihood.

That being said, there is a uninhabited island within 20 mins of my home that my friends have stockpiled with canned food, guns and dug a crude shelter into just in case of an apocalypse scenario. If roads were clear enough, I'd try to get there. My friends are crazy.

And the gene pool comment was just a jab at how human evolution is currently stalled - someone with my genetic issues (especially severe myopia) would not have made it long in an evolutionary environment.

Also, most of my jokes are at my expense until I get to know people well enough to be comfortable poking fun at them too. :P
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Right. Glasses. I can see without mine, but not perfectly.
I do art sometimes.

"if you want green eat a salad"

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Amammalia: A strange place where mammals didn't make it and the land is, once again, dominated by archosaurs.

Oceanus: An endless sea dotted with islands, reefs, and black holes. Literally endless, literal black holes.

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yeah missiles aren't all that good in some scenarios, they're kind of expensive and you cant have as many missiles as bullets and such and such. And as long as we're hunting prehistoric animals i would use a helicopter or another aireal vehicle, for hunting any prehistoric animal, simply put i don't like the idea of not being able to see all the large predators. but maybe im just a pussy.
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It's spelled AD. I mean we are still basing our calendars on when Jesus was supposedly born, why do we have to pretend we are not with all these nonsense? We still use months and week days based on and Norse gods and Roman emperors, nobody is trying to change that.
The story happens between AC 88 and AC 95 though, intentionally vague. Probably between 2200 and 2500.

As for this "virus" and the one used on Russia having collateral damage? The Ukrainians and the AWB types who do know about it don't care, the end game for the Ukrainians was to kill or breed away every other ethnic group anyway. Why care about a few hundred million Africans when you are going to raze to the ground and rebuild humanity in your own image anyway?

As for people finding out, Ukraine is light years ahead in biotech and very few people know about what happened, and those who were not important were killed.

Volkstaat nutters probably will end up like that, but that does not mean they can't re-emerge one day.

Hmm, good point though you made me think. Maybe I should unite more of the Bantu dominated nations.

The map is to large to upload in one go, so here is South Africa.
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Oh and you might find these interesting.
http://neethis.deviantart.com/art/Balkanised-South-Africa-map-144095630
http://kurarun.deviantart.com/art/The-World-Turn-d-Upside-Down-189288968
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Oh wow. I'm so amazed at your sacrifice to better the gene pool of humanity. :rolleyes:


You seem to have some bad self-worth issues, Cephalian. :|
Hahahaha Cephalian i think im the opposite of you ;) get my genes spread out as much as possible if ya get what i mean ;)

Your a clever guy im pretty sure your more useful than all the people who just degrade the gene pool... no specifics mentioned *cough West Ham fans *cough ;)
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Oh I forgot, Turkey, Iberoamerica, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, Japan, Germany and the Philippines are the nations who had more than the odd asteroid or orbital colony.

The USA is a lot like the Eastern Roman Empire at this point, it's fallen apart quite a bit, but still is clinging on.
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