Catastrophic disaster, new beginning

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Catastrophic disaster, new beginning; Exercise - anyone can join
Topic Started: May 11 2010, 01:48 PM (1,069 Views)
KayKay	May 11 2010, 01:48 PM Post #1
Adult Posts: 682 Group: Members Member #100 Joined: Oct 30, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: Scotland	.................... .................... Edited by KayKay, May 16 2010, 04:43 AM.



Ook	May 11 2010, 02:02 PM Post #2
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	there could survive smaller unspecialized mammals..opossums,racoons....



Pando	May 11 2010, 02:03 PM Post #3
Obey or I'll send you to the moon Posts: 5,648 Group: Members Member #275 Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Area of expertise: Future Evolution	I'm going to guess it would be a Permian-level disaster. So animals can definitely survive it. Earth had worse.



KayKay	May 11 2010, 02:08 PM Post #4
Adult Posts: 682 Group: Members Member #100 Joined: Oct 30, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: Scotland	Sorry, I meant could any cats survive it (not could anything at all survive). I wasn't clear on that. As I said I don't think so but I'm not sure either. I don't know about opossums I'll have to look them up. Never read much about them. Raccoons, yeah I think they could, but again I'm not sure! Edited by KayKay, May 11 2010, 02:09 PM.



Ook	May 11 2010, 02:11 PM Post #5
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	marsupials is amazing animals....how about they golden age?



Pando	May 11 2010, 02:23 PM Post #6
Obey or I'll send you to the moon Posts: 5,648 Group: Members Member #275 Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Area of expertise: Future Evolution	Cats will survive. They extinct species almost as bad as humans. Opossums are very unspecialized, and the fact that they're omnivores (well, at least the Virginia Opossum is) and will almost certainly survive.



Ook	May 11 2010, 02:27 PM Post #7
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	oh,if kaykay wants cats extinct,i dont have any reason why they cant be extinct,cats are succesfull animals,and they will soon outcompete other carnivores...i want marsupial carnivores,not cats,that looks like our cats



Pando	May 11 2010, 02:29 PM Post #8
Obey or I'll send you to the moon Posts: 5,648 Group: Members Member #275 Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Area of expertise: Future Evolution	But this isn't your project! This is KayKay's! And marsupials only exist in the Americas, Australia, and wallabies in Europe (which won't develop carnivorous forms anytime soon, and in this project the chance of their extinction is very high). Edited by Pando, May 11 2010, 02:29 PM.



Ook	May 11 2010, 02:37 PM Post #9
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	they could spread..via island hopping to asia and to america....i imagine that south and north america could be occupied by marsupials and placentals in different niches..for example marsupials as carnivores,lemur like forms,and unspecialized forms,and placentals as herbivores...in eurasia could be few unspecialized marsupials,that went here from australia,but it will be occupied by placentals



KayKay	May 11 2010, 03:22 PM Post #10
Adult Posts: 682 Group: Members Member #100 Joined: Oct 30, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: Scotland	Hm... he's got a point though. By time populations recover, marsupials would not have had enough time to island hop to claim the niche of the placentals that live there. Placentals would have recovered just fine by time they got there (the ones that do recover from the disaster). I don't mind if cats are in it. I just would not have expected they'd make it... I'd suspect, at least, not tigers or lions? What about domestic cats? Also, do we agree on rats and a few other rodents being present on most continents? What about less common rodents, or arboreal rodents like squirrels (IMO, they could be in some locations but not all, Northern hemisphere mostly)? What about ground squirrels? Would the capybara survive or would it have suffered too much from ice age climate change and the disaster?



Ook	May 11 2010, 03:25 PM Post #11
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	if human dont destroy swamps in south america,they can survive.. but giant rodents in almost all future evolutions is too boring



KayKay	May 11 2010, 03:29 PM Post #12
Adult Posts: 682 Group: Members Member #100 Joined: Oct 30, 2008 Gender: Female Nationality: Scotland	Yeah, I'd like something a little different too. It's why I wanted to make the disaster pretty severe - so that even rodents would take a hard hit. But there's bound to still be quite a few, I think realistically it's almost inevitable to have some rodents to survive and diversify. Come to think of it, I don't think capybaras - or any larger herbivores or carnivores - would make it through, except some anomalous exceptions. Speaking of which, think crocodilians will strike 2nd time lucky (having survived one major extinction event already)? Or might the river and water pollution done them in this time? Edited by KayKay, May 11 2010, 03:32 PM.



Pando	May 11 2010, 03:35 PM Post #13
Obey or I'll send you to the moon Posts: 5,648 Group: Members Member #275 Joined: Feb 24, 2010 Area of expertise: Future Evolution	By cats I thought you mean domestic cats. Big felines are DOOMED unless we were to suddenly leave the Earth right now.



Ook	May 11 2010, 03:43 PM Post #14
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	propably survive only felis cattus,maybe some south american cat.



Ddraig Goch	May 11 2010, 03:49 PM Post #15
Ar hyd y nos Posts: 2,745 Group: Away Staff Member #230 Joined: Sep 27, 2009 Gender: Male Nationality: Welsh Favorite Quote: Vicious things can be amusing - like a shark in a funny hat.	Quote: What about domestic cats? They will survive. They are reasonably adaptable, and people would probably take them along to the habitable areas. For the same reasons, I think domestic dogs could survive as well. It would be mainly strong, hunting breeds, like alsations. Could you produce a map of the worst-affected areas? That way, we'll know what is likely to survive, given location.
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