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introduced pack-hunting super raptors; hawks, not dromeosaurs, sorry guys :P
Topic Started: May 2 2010, 10:54 AM (1,092 Views)
MitchBeard	May 2 2010, 10:54 AM Post #1
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Harris Hawk. They will hunt in cooperative groups of two to six, consisting of family groups. Being social means that they are good for falconry, which means they've been taken overseas, and then inevitably escape into the wild. ...and evolve into batshit crazy aerial super predators? maybe? anyone?

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Carlos	May 2 2010, 05:35 PM Post #16
Adveho in me Lucifero Posts: 11,702 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Maybe they could become flightless that way
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Practically Uninformed	May 2 2010, 05:42 PM Post #17
Informed enough to care Posts: 1,570 Group: Members Member #274 Joined: Feb 20, 2010 Nationality: Born in DC, bred in SC, now in NJ. A partial citizen of Tartarus Favorite Quote: "Ya gotta put the soup-drinker in the flute-lips, and shake it all up!"	Probably not totally flightless, though. Even the Secretary Bird is capable of flight.
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Margaret Pye	May 2 2010, 10:56 PM Post #18
Adult Posts: 596 Group: Members Member #267 Joined: Feb 3, 2010 Gender: Female Nationality: Australian	It is now, but flight isn't that essential to its lifestyle. A secretarybird could easily become flightless if there was enough pressure to grow larger. Still, back on Parabuteo unicinctus: before it could start losing its flight skills it'd have to become much better at walking, and I'm not sure why it'd be subjected to pressure to be better at walking. Maybe a domesticated variety could evolve?
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Practically Uninformed	May 3 2010, 05:34 AM Post #19
Informed enough to care Posts: 1,570 Group: Members Member #274 Joined: Feb 20, 2010 Nationality: Born in DC, bred in SC, now in NJ. A partial citizen of Tartarus Favorite Quote: "Ya gotta put the soup-drinker in the flute-lips, and shake it all up!"	Hmm... Perhaps the major carnivores become extinct? Or it's prey becomes too large to warrant air-based killing techniques?
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Scrublord	May 3 2010, 02:04 PM Post #20
Father Pellegrini Posts: 4,423 Group: Members Member #169 Joined: May 5, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: American (unfortunately) Favorite Quote: Life can seem a challenge. Life can seem impossible. It's never easy when there's so much on the line.	The one in my idea is about the size of a harpy eagle, but because it hunts in flocks it can take down prey as large as a deer.
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Margaret Pye	May 4 2010, 11:47 PM Post #21
Adult Posts: 596 Group: Members Member #267 Joined: Feb 3, 2010 Gender: Female Nationality: Australian	When you consider that Hieraetus moorei was capable of killing 200-kg moas - probably ate a few Maoris before it went extinct - then a similar creature with teamwork skills becomes quite impressive.
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MitchBeard	May 4 2010, 11:51 PM Post #22
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	EXACTLY. I think they would also be good endurance hunters. How effortless would it be to run down your prey if you're pretty much gliding the whole time.
Margaret Pye	May 4 2010, 11:57 PM Post #23
Adult Posts: 596 Group: Members Member #267 Joined: Feb 3, 2010 Gender: Female Nationality: Australian	There seem to be two different designs that work for really big hawks - the soaring, open-country ones like Aquila, with long broad wings and a relatively low wing-loading, and the less enduring, more agile forest-dwelling ones like Harpia, which have short wings and a long tail.
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MitchBeard	May 5 2010, 02:17 AM Post #24
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Well thats at least three forms of the descendant of these hawks. I will have to spec these up at some point.
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