introduced pack-hunting super raptors

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introduced pack-hunting super raptors; hawks, not dromeosaurs, sorry guys :P
Topic Started: May 2 2010, 10:54 AM (1,091 Views)
MitchBeard	May 2 2010, 10:54 AM Post #1
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Harris Hawk. They will hunt in cooperative groups of two to six, consisting of family groups. Being social means that they are good for falconry, which means they've been taken overseas, and then inevitably escape into the wild. ...and evolve into batshit crazy aerial super predators? maybe? anyone?



Scrublord	May 2 2010, 11:19 AM Post #2
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Ook	May 2 2010, 11:24 AM Post #3
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	Povorots troodons ::)



MitchBeard	May 2 2010, 11:24 AM Post #4
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	I was probably over-exaggerating when I said super predator, but you get my drift I imagine they would have pretty high sucess rates on their hunts. It being so hard to outrun a bird and all. Do you reckon they would have any chance of doing better than, say a lion? Apex predator and whatnot? They would be pretty quickly run off a kill by scavengers though I guess... also, sweet pic bexi! Edited by MitchBeard, May 2 2010, 11:25 AM.



Ook	May 2 2010, 11:26 AM Post #5
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	maybe something like wolf or jackal,eats smaller animals and sometimes hunt deers or something like that



MitchBeard	May 2 2010, 11:35 AM Post #6
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Well they already prey on smaller animals. I'm thinking more along the lines of a pack hunting Haast's Eagle....



Ook	May 2 2010, 11:37 AM Post #7
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	or they become flightless



MitchBeard	May 2 2010, 11:40 AM Post #8
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	Why?



Ook	May 2 2010, 11:45 AM Post #9
not a Transhuman Posts: 2,933 Group: Members Member #282 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male	hmmm...maybe they will be too big for flying,or will be something like secretary bird



MitchBeard	May 2 2010, 11:51 AM Post #10
proud gondwanan Posts: 431 Group: Members Member #281 Joined: Mar 10, 2010 Gender: Male Nationality: Australian	They could go down that path. But evolution doesn't work in a straight line. Where else could they go?



Black_Panther	May 2 2010, 12:31 PM Post #11
Adolescent Posts: 472 Group: Members Member #56 Joined: Aug 17, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: Mexico	Bexi May 2 2010, 11:45 AM hmmm...maybe they will be too big for flying,or will be something like secretary bird Again, let's take the example of the Haast's Eagle. So, if these falcons evolve into a large, aerial predator (not saying Haast Eagle or Teratorn-size), but something between a large vulture and a condor...well, they can become indeed large predators. But for that, they need an environment without large predators. Say, like an island or a place where canids, felines and other large predators disappeared.
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Practically Uninformed	May 2 2010, 12:37 PM Post #12
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Holben	May 2 2010, 02:08 PM Post #13
Rumbo a la Victoria Posts: 14,335 Group: Admin Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Check out the teratorns. They won't be able to keep the same hunting tactics due to noit being able to pick things up using their talons, so their baby-feeding must change.
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Carlos	May 2 2010, 04:31 PM Post #14
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Practically Uninformed	May 2 2010, 05:09 PM Post #15
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