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| Trashed Postozoic Ideas; They're free for use, except for the pictures | |
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| Topic Started: Apr 28 2010, 04:53 PM (2,005 Views) | |
| Pando | Apr 28 2010, 04:53 PM Post #1 |
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Here I shall post my trashed animals from the Postozoic. They are free for use, but they won't be yours. They're still mine, and I might still use them for the Postozoic or another project of mine. But the pictures aren't free. Hedgeatherium/Hedgehogs/European Forest: 5 feet long gray tiger-like long-snouted carnivorous hedgehog with short quills over the body.  Seabat/Bats/European Forest coasts: 2-fingered 8-foot wingspan white sea-going piscivorous long-snouted bat. Replaces some seabirds. Antarctic Bat/Bats/Antarctic Savannah Tundra: 6-foot wingspan brown carnivorous bat. It eats eggs and small rodents. Predator Rat -- Brown Rat -- European Plains: 5 foot long gray carnivorous rat. The 4 incisors have sharpened, stopped continuously growing, and have seperated to become farther apart, but there are no teeth in the gap. Therohoatzin -- Hoatzin -- South American Rainforest: 2-3 feet long arboreal black (with golden belly and a crest) arboreal Hoatzin with 3 fingers on the elbow of the wings. It can still fly, but usually climbs. It eats fruits and leaves. Mersnail/Lower Heterobranchia Sea Slugs/Oceans: These are the ones that have replaced most herbivorous fish. They look the same except that their bodies are streamlines, has evolved primitive flippers, and the back of the body looks like a dolphin tail.  Kochlidtheres/All over the world except for South America and Antarctica: They are bipedal snails. They have evolved water-tight skin, and the foot has evolved 2 long legs at the side, which became normal legs, an endoskeleton, and the shell has become like the shell of a turtle. The herbivorous ones still have a radula with a lengthened mouth, but the insectivorous ones has become long, sticky, and spike-less. They also have a long tail to balance their weight. They outcompeted lizards because of the fact that they are hermaphrodites. They have also evolved amniotic eggs.  **NOTE** If you will ask Canis Lupus for permission too it will be appreciated. Tree Octopus/Octopus/Europe, Asia, and Africa 100 MYF: An arboreal octopus descendant. 4 of it's legs are long, thick, and used for swinging, while the other 4 are wider, sticky, and stronger, used to catch prey and climb trees. It also has an extendable mouth used to kill and eat.  Platyraffe/Platypus/Australian Savannah: A 10 foot tall herbivorous giraffe-like descendant of the platypus.  Terror Bill/Platypus/African Savanna: A carnivorous platypus. They have developed teeth-like structures on its bill to kill and eat.  Feel free. I'd prefer if you'd comment here before using one of these creatures. Also, the pictures aren't yours. You can't use my pictures. Edited by Pando, Apr 29 2010, 01:19 PM.
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| Canis Lupis | Apr 28 2010, 05:36 PM Post #2 |
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I can see why you trashed the platypus things. Just as implausible as land cephalopods. |
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| Pando | Apr 28 2010, 05:40 PM Post #3 |
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Not really. The platypus has all the genes it needs for a stomach. The only problem it has is its teeth. |
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| Canis Lupis | Apr 28 2010, 05:44 PM Post #4 |
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Really? Huh. I'll have to do more research on it. I might turn it into a blogpost. |
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| Practically Uninformed | Apr 28 2010, 05:49 PM Post #5 |
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The snails sound pretty cool, except for the legs. Snails don't have the capacity to develop legs like that, and then there's the whole "bones-needed-for-legs" thing. |
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| Pando | Apr 28 2010, 05:50 PM Post #6 |
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That's why it's trashed. |
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| Canis Lupis | Apr 28 2010, 05:53 PM Post #7 |
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Oh, it's possible alright. True, Metalraptor and I spent about a month figuring it out for TFIB, but it's possible. After my land echinoderm post, I shall definitely do a post about saltokochlids to explain how it works. |
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| Pando | Apr 28 2010, 05:57 PM Post #8 |
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I'll like to see that. But mice and antechinus are getting that niche in the revised Postozoic. It's still in the old Postozoic though. |
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| Canis Lupis | Apr 28 2010, 05:59 PM Post #9 |
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Deadline for that blogpost is a week from today. My echinoderm article is going to be posted tonight. I'll link to it on my own blog's topic when I get the chance. But let's get this topic back on track, shall we? 
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| Practically Uninformed | Apr 28 2010, 06:01 PM Post #10 |
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It's possible? Why's it possible for snails to develop like this, and not cephelapods? Wouldn't they run into the same problems? |
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| Canis Lupis | Apr 28 2010, 06:04 PM Post #11 |
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Cephalopods are descendents of gastropods. Cephalopods, despite being swimmers, have a similar anatomy to gastropods. Most cephalopods at one time possessed a shell, which evolved into a pen. A similar thing could happen to snails. |
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| Pando | Apr 28 2010, 06:05 PM Post #12 |
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Isn't it only possible for cuttlefish to develop an internal bony skeleton of the cephalopods? It is possible for snails to develop a skeleton. It happened with cuttlefish. It's ammonite/nautiloid (not sure) ancestor had the external shell go inside the body, and with all but the cuttlefish kept the endoskeleton. It would be cool to do a future evo project with implausible creatures and figuring ways how they can get on land, like land cephalopods and bony snails. |
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| Practically Uninformed | Apr 28 2010, 06:06 PM Post #13 |
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Exactly. As outlined in the "Terrestrial Cephelapods" thread, it would be impossible for cephelapods in their current state to become terrestrial to the point of the Future is Wild. Why is it more likely for the snail, which would face the very same problems (probably more, with its single limb), to develop to a Future-Is-Wild point? |
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| Pando | Apr 28 2010, 06:06 PM Post #14 |
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Says above. |
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| Practically Uninformed | Apr 28 2010, 06:09 PM Post #15 |
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What about the foot? That seems to be the major issue. |
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