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| Topic Started: Apr 19 2010, 12:01 PM (6,711 Views) | |
| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 12:01 PM Post #1 |
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Since my old topic died and I had so much revision I just created a new topic. In the Postozoic I will focus on 4 (rather than 3) time zones. They will be 25, 90, 120, and 200 million years future. In 25 million years future the world is 1 degree hotter than 2010, and rain forests cover the equator but Africa-like savannas are dominant. In the sea dolphins hold their niche but seals filter feed and otters have taken the role of seals and the ambush predator niche north of the equator, where they can't compete with the better adapted crocodilians. An order of primates descended from the Hamadryas baboon start to compete with carnivora for the niche of apex predators. In 90 million years the world is 1 degree colder than 2010, and there are no rain forests with Mediterranean climate replacing them. The savannas and grasslands are more spread, up until the taiga (boreal forests) that start around the height of Canada. Mammals are at their height. An order of neo-mesonychids descended from pigs have overthrown the carnivore baboons. Carnivora is extinct except in South America. Bats have become more dominant, keeping most birds as raptorial-like forms. During this period a mass extinction in between KT and P-Tr arrives, heating up the world and bringing an end to the reign of mammals and the extinction of monotremes. In 120 million years the world is a hot place rules by reptiles. Amphibians have been in decline ever since the human extinction, and the 90 MYF extinction brought their end. All birds also go extinct in the extinction, except for an Asian group of quadruped birds, descended from junglefowl. Bats rule the skies, with the group that rules the skies losing another finger from the membrane, allowing them to walk better and grow bigger. All the continents are connected except for South America and Antarctica, which is the only place that mammals are still dominant. Monitor lizard descendants are the apex predators. Mice and antechinus descendants rule the insectivorous niche. In the trees a group of carnivorous primates rule predator niche and another group rule the fruigivorous and insectivorous niches, all descended from the 1 monkey that survived the extinction. A group of arboreal geckos rule the rodent niche. In Antarctica a group of swingers similar to monkeys have evolved, descended from bats. In the sea dolphin-like sharks rule the dolphin niche and giant filter feeding squid rule the filter feeding niches. A new class of reptile-like chordates descended from pangolins emerge from Lemuria when it crashes into India, including the neo-theropods descended from lizargolins, which had the chance to rise with the extinction of Emperor Birds. In 200 million years all the continents have grown in a neo-Pangea. Birds and neo-reptile pangolins have taken control of the land, winning over mammals because of their better water conservation. In the trees the monkey bats has a cosmopolitan range in the coastline rain forests from when Antarctica collided with neo-Pangea. Antechinus now completely control the insectivore niche, and opossums from South America rule the rodent niche, and are the last marsupials. A few armadillos, neo-ground sloths (from South America) and ground Kinkajou (from Antarctica) roam in the southern rain forests of neo-Pangea. Flying lizards descended from the rodent geckos have taken pterosaur-like form and fill a niche similar to what bats have today. Another change that I'm doing from the original Postozoic is that instead of doing all the time zones at a time, I'm going to go time zone biome by time zone biome. The other change is in the survivor list. The only changes I'm doing is that hoatzin are extinct and sloths are extant, to fit my plans for the future. And so, welcome to the Postozoic! Edited by Pando, Apr 23 2010, 09:35 PM.
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 12:03 PM Post #2 |
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Survivor list and invasive species list: Extinct: Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Afrotheria -- Afrosoricidia (Tenrecs, Golden Moles) -- Golden Moles Tubulidentata (Aardvark) Proboscidae (Elephants) Sirenia (Manatees, Dugongs) Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Euarchontoglires -- Dermoptera (Colugos) Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Laurasiatheria -- Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs, Gymnures) -- Gymnures Cetacea (whales, dolphins, porpoises) -- Whales, porpoises Atiodactyla (Even toed ungulates) -- Peccaries, camelids, hippos, chevrotains, pronghorns, giraffids, musk deer (Tayassuidae, camelidae, hippopotamidae, tragulidae, antilocapridae, giraffidae, moschidae) Perissodactyla (Equids, tapirs, rhinos) -- Tapirs, Rhinos Carnivora -- African palm civet, asiatic linings, felines, civets, malgasay carnivores, wolves, bears, red panda, walrus, sea lions, eared seals, and furred seals (Nandiniidae, prinonodontidae, big felidae, viverridae, eupleridae, wolf canidae, ursidae, ailuridae, non-raccoon procyonidae, odobenidae, and otariidae). Mammalia -- Theria -- Marsupialia -- Microbiotheria (Monito del monte) Peramelemorphia (Bandicoots, bilbies) -- Bilbies Notoryctemorphia (Marsupial moles) Diprotontia -- Vombatiformes -- Koalas Aves -- Gaviiformes (Loons) Podicipediformes (Grebes) Phaethontiformes (Tropicbirds) Togoniformes (Trogons) Coliiformes (Mousebirds) Struthioniformes (Ratites) Opisthocomiformes (Hoatzin) Reptilia -- Sphenodontia (Tuatara) Squamata -- Amphisbaenia (Worm lizards) Arthropoda -- Merostomata (Horseshoe Crabs) Survivors: Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Xenartha -- Cingulata (Armadillos) Pilosa (Sloths, Anteaters) Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Afrotheria -- Macroscelidae (Elephant shrews) Hyracoidae (Hyrax) Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Euarchontoglires -- Rodentia (Rodents) Lagmorpha (Rabbits, Pikas) Scandentia (Treeshrews) Primates (Less than half extant, apes extinct) Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Laurasiatheria -- Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs, Gymnures) -- Hedgehogs (Erinaceinae) Sorciomorpha (Moles, shrews) Afrosoricidia (Tenrecs, Golden Moles) -- Tenrecs Chiroptera (Bats) Cetacea (Whales, dolphins, porpoises) -- Dolphins Artiodactyla (Even toed ungulates) -- Pigs, small deer, small bovids (Suidae, cervidae, bovidae) Perissodactyla (Equids, tapirs, rhinos) -- Horses Pholidota (Pangolins) Carnivora -- Hyenas, mongoose, fox canidae, skunks, mustelids, procyonidae, and true seals (Hyaenidae, herpestidae, canidae (only foxes), mephitidae (skunks), mustelidae, procyonidae (only raccoons), phocidae, and small felidae (felines)) Mammalia -- Monotremata (Echidnas, platypus) -- Only Platypus and Short Beaked Echidna Mammalia -- Theria -- Marsupialia -- Didelphimorphia (Opposums) Paucituberculata (Shrew opposums) Dasyuromorphia (Marsupial carnivores) -- Tasmanian devil extinct Peramelemorphia (Bandicoots, bilbies) -- Bandicoots Diprotodontia -- Phalangeriformes (Possums) Diprotodontia -- Macropodiformes (Kangaroos, wallabies) Diprotodontia -- Vombatiformes (koalas, wallabies) -- Wallabies Aves -- Anseriformes (Ducks, geese, screamers) -- Swans Extinct Tinamiformes (Tinamous) Galliformes (Fowl) Charadriiformes (Gulls, allies) Procellariiformes (Albatrosses, petrels, allies) -- Albatrosses extinct Pelecaniformes (Pelicans, gannets, allies) -- Only gannets Extant Ciconiiformes (Storks, ibis, allies) -- Only small ones like the bittern (small heron) Extant Cathartiformes (New World vultures (condors, etc...) -- Only Black Vulture Extant Phoenicopteriformes (Flamingos) -- American species extinct, African species Extant Falconiformes (Raptors) -- Only caracaras, hawks, and secretary birds Extant Gruiformes (Cranes, allies) -- Only Rails, finfoots, sunbrebes, and bustards Extant Pteroclidiformes (Sandgrouse) Columbiformes (Doves, pidgeons) Psittaciformes (Parrots, allies) Sphenisciformes (Penguins) -- Only Snares, Fiordland, Little Blue, Northern Little, Magellanic, Humbolt, and African penguins Extant. Cuculiformes (Cuckoos, turacos) Strigiformes (Owls) Caprimulgiformes (Nightjards, allies) Apodiformes (Swifts, hummingbirds) Coraciiformes (Kingfishers, allies) Piciformes (Woodpeckers, allies) Passeriformes (Passerines) Cariamae (Seriema) Reptilia -- Crocodilia -- Gharials and most crocodiles extinct, alligators biggest survivors Squamata (Lizards, snakes, worm lizards) -- Lizards, snakes Extant, worm lizards Extinct Testudines -- Geomydidae (box turtles), emydidae, testudinidae (tortoises), and kinosternidae (mud turtles) Extant, all other families Extinct Amphibia -- Frogs, salamanders, and caecilians -- Extant but greatly reduced Arthropoda -- Only horseshoe crabs Extinct, but cockroaches, ants, and beetles biggest survivor, taking over lots of niches taken by other insects, spiders, scorpions, millipedes, and centipedes Mollusca -- Gastropoda -- Land Snails -- Extant, but greatly reduced Introduced/Invasive species that have survived in it's new habitat: Wallabies, Muntjac, Rats, Rabbits, Grey squirrels, Minks, Water Deer in England Weasels, Hedgehogs, Rats, Rabbits, Cats, Common Brushtail Possums, Deer, Himalayan Tahr in New Zealand Red Fox, Rabbits, Goats, Cats, Pigs, Rats, Cane Toad, Dromedery Camels, Brumby Horses, Rock Pigeons, Common Myna, and Spotted Doves in Australia Iguanas in Florida Wild Boars in Texas Edited by Pando, Apr 23 2010, 01:17 PM.
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 12:05 PM Post #3 |
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And finally biome list of 25 MYF: California has separated and drifted north west, and is covered in lush forests. North America has separated from South America (though not by much) and moved slightly North, causing huge taiga in the North, forests around the current U.S.-Canadian border and around the coasts, huge prairie in the center, in Central America is a rainforest, and the south-eastern corner of the U.S. (around Florida to Louisiana, north to Southern Missouri (due to Mississippi river) and north to South Carolina) is a huge swamp from the slightly higher ocean level (due to more ice melted in Antarctica than frozen in Greenland). South America has drifted slightly northward, causing the entire Northern 2/3 to be covered in rain forest, and the southern third to be covered in savannah. Africa has crashed into Gilbratar, blocking off the Mediterranean and causing it to dry out, forming a huge salt desert. The northern half of Africa is dry savannah with Acaica plants littering the landscape, similar to todays African Savannah. Europe’s western and northern side is covered in forest, the southeastern side is covered in prairie. Asia is covered in rain forest to the south-east, the center of Asia in a huge strip is covered in forest, and now-Russia is covered in taiga. There is also a huge desert in the area of the Gobi desert today. Australia has moved northward to the equator and crashed into Papua New Guinea, it is now covered in rain forest everywhere except for the central savannah, not too different from Africa’s savannah. Africa east of the Nile has broken off and formed East Africa (AKA Lemuria) and is covered in rain-forests. Madagascar has drifted farther from Africa, and is still covered in rain forest. The primary herbivores are lemurs, the primary carnivores are tenrecs, which are very diverse, resembling hedgehogs, otters, weasels, rats, etc... Greenland has become bigger by way of the Canadian isles, and has moved northward to become an Australia-sized north pole Antarctica, effectively keeping the sea level at about the same level. For easiness, say these biomes: South American savannah/rain forest. North American grassland plains/forest/Central American rain forest/taiga/swamp. Californian forest. West African rain forest/savannah. East African savanna. Madagascar rain forest. Australian rain forest/savannah. European forest/grassland plains/Mediterranean desert. Asian desert/forest/rain forest/taiga. So... ...what biome do you want to see first? Edited by Pando, Apr 21 2010, 01:58 AM.
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| Ook | Apr 19 2010, 12:46 PM Post #4 |
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european gr***land,25 MYF there could be antelope like roe deers,langomorphs with size of sheep and yeah,I am skeptical about surviving of wallabies in england,muntjacs have got better chance,but they cant replace native deers,roe deer is fast breeding pest ang great food source for all our bigger carnivores |
   
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 12:52 PM Post #5 |
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Who knows? Someone might help them survive. There are also wallabies in France, and more might get wild later. I want European wallabies. There could be roe deer and muntjac, or maybe muntjac overthrow the roe deer in England. After all in 2004 they were Englands #2 species of deer. The predators of Europe include lynx descendants, red fox descendants, mustelid descendants, and carnivorous baboons. Anyone second the European grassland biome to focus on? |
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| Holben | Apr 19 2010, 01:09 PM Post #6 |
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Well... yeah. On wallabies, they do surprisingly well in here, and pretty much only artificial boundaries prevent them from getting out. I think they would renegate most deer to the nocturnal niche.
Pine martens. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 01:17 PM Post #7 |
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So I'll do the European grasslands. Time to go over the old thread to find the critters there that I'm keeping... |
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 02:51 PM Post #8 |
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My species for the European plains: Buffalo Rabbit/Rabbit/European Plains: A 5 foot tall brown rabbit. They no longer hop and have a loner snout and slightly longer neck.  Concepts: Horse-like roe deer. Dinoceratan-like water deer. Lion-like or jaguar-like pack hunting carnivore baboon. Bear dog-like wolverine. Rhino-like hog. Giant elephant-like hog descended from a woolly elephant-like hog from the last Ice Age. Shorter weasel descendant that hunts rodents. |
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| Scrublord | Apr 19 2010, 02:54 PM Post #9 |
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You. . .you stole my idea! Carnivore-pigs. . .why I ought to . . . |
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My Projects: The Neozoic Redux Valhalla--Take Three! The Big One Deviantart Account: http://elsqiubbonator.deviantart.com In the end, the best advice I could give you would be to do your project in a way that feels natural to you, rather than trying to imitate some geek with a laptop in Colorado. --Heteromorph | |
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| Ook | Apr 19 2010, 03:00 PM Post #10 |
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carnivore pigs are very common in spec projects |
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 03:11 PM Post #11 |
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I'm fascinated with mesonychids. The main group of carnivorous bird in neo-pangea are ungulates too. And pigs are really the only ones I can use for neo-mesonychids, unless you can suggest another ancestor? It has around 70-80 million years to evolve. |
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| Ook | Apr 19 2010, 03:39 PM Post #12 |
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this is long too timeand for this reason they can be descendants of mouse or shrews :D..speculating about far future is hard,so you can create any creatures |
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 03:54 PM Post #13 |
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Well, there were the entelodonts. So pigs could become carnivores again. How do you like my concepts? |
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| Scrublord | Apr 19 2010, 04:08 PM Post #14 |
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Well, I'm sorry I was so harsh. My Gulosuids are more like saber-toothed versions of dogs or hyenas than entelodonts anyway. |
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My Projects: The Neozoic Redux Valhalla--Take Three! The Big One Deviantart Account: http://elsqiubbonator.deviantart.com In the end, the best advice I could give you would be to do your project in a way that feels natural to you, rather than trying to imitate some geek with a laptop in Colorado. --Heteromorph | |
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| Pando | Apr 19 2010, 04:09 PM Post #15 |
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Some are like entelodonts, some like mesonychids. |
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