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Future evolution of baboons
Topic Started: Apr 16 2010, 09:35 AM (3,000 Views)
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If any primate were to out last mankind, I would tend to think it would be one of the baboon species. How would you see them evolving in the future if other primates were extinct and most of their main predators were as well?
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i think that baboons will be something like new apes,carnivore niches will be retaken by smaller carnivores,i dont think that carnivore cat\wolf like baboons are possible
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Well, its within the realm of possibilities. Though baboons wouldn't need any major physical changes to become better predators
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I had this idea of a feline-like baboon a time ago. Given the time and the circunstances, they could end up becoming large predators (i.e. extinction of the african big cats, hunting dogs and hyenas).
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Or they could attempt a coup similar to what carnivora did with the mesonychids.
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I doubt that. Carnivora is so well established today that I don't see them being replaced by carniboons anytime soon. Unless off course carnivora experienced a mass extinction.
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Apr 19 2010, 08:52 PM
I doubt that. Carnivora is so well established today that I don't see them being replaced by carniboons anytime soon. Unless off course carnivora experienced a mass extinction.
Maybe, depends in areas.
What could happen if a chunk of South Africa splits?
Baboons are probably the larger predators down there....and no, i don't think they could end up getting fully carnivorous, maybe becoming an analogue to bears (by the fact they're omnivorous).
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Well, if a chunk of South Africa splits off (in fact, it could even be done on Lemuria), and as long as carnivorans don't make it, I'd say baboons would quickly come to dominate the scene. Though, for the first ten to twenty million years of their evolution, I'd say they would be omnivorous with more carnivorous tendencies. But as they continue to evolve, I don't see complete carnivory as being out of the question.
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Yes - why on earth couldn't baboons become completely carnivorous?

Or herbivorous, for that matter. They're an unspecialised enough form that they could evolve in all kinds of directions, or all kinds of directions at once.
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I think baboons could evolve fully carnivorous forms. Their canine teeth look developed enough to be used as a weapon for killing large prey.
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In my Postozoic in 25 MYF an order of carnivorous baboons is starting to compete against Carnivora. Baboons are pretty vicious, they have been known to kill lions.
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In my Postozoic in 25 MYF an order of carnivorous baboons is starting to compete against Carnivora. Baboons are pretty vicious, they have been known to kill lions.
Cool.
I had carnivorous baboons for a project, but then i'm deciding to do a remake of an old project i posted here almost a year ago; and probably include bear-like baboons that look more like savannah-dwelling gorillas than the slim baboons we know today.

And yeah, agree with Margaret Pye.
There could be several species of baboons in the future, considering all the existing species of baboons and their distribution over Africa.
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Baboons have a lot of choices: gorilla-like, predators, giant herbivores, among others. They're pretty adaptable animals.
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They definitely seem to have potential as ample competition to lions and leapords, but there is another issue that's yet to be addressed; the sexual dimorphism.
Modern baboon females are half the size of males. If baboons were to follow this bear-like development, how would this effect the gender gap?
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I've always entertained the idea that apes and monkeys and such would evolve to something human-like, but with distinct differences, like with Big Foot (whom I'm still trying to figure out whether or not I should believe in him/ her). You never know.

Following the bear-thing, I would imagine that they'd (the females) stay on the same size scale, except larger, of course, throughout the evolution, if not smaller. Or they could become bigger. Too many variables; I'll have to conduct research on the genes and DNA of baboons before I get any other ideas.
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