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Mammal die off; Mesonychids, Proboscids, armadillos, primates, and dinoceratans
Topic Started: Apr 4 2010, 07:52 PM (618 Views)
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What if during the Eocene mesonychids, armadillos, proboscids, dinoceratans, and primates managed to get a cosmopolitan range during the eocene and the eocene rain forests never died off, and they dominated the world, driving off all other large carnivores, herbivores, and arboreal herbivores and they stayed ruling the world until today?
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Primate takeover. Endostory.

During the Eocene, primates were already highly diverse. So with continued Eocene-like conditions, primates would continue to prosper, possibly taking over some carnivoran and ungulate niches.

Mesonychids would maintain a few predatory niches, but not as much as they would if the forests disappeared.

The proboscideans and dinoceratans could easily become the main herbivores of this new world. Though, of course, mini-sized. While there is an abundance of food in forests, large creatures tend to not do well in forests.
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Well, what if there were savannas in places like Siberia, Australia, and Antarctica, and the rest of the world was rain forests?
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Mesonychid takeover of carnivorous niches and take over of herbivorous niches by a combination of large proboscideans, large dinoceratans, some primates that managed to eek out an existance on the plain (imagines gorilla-like creature), and a diversification of ratites and tinamous into the niches occupied by gazelles in our universe.

I anticipate that, in this scenario, humans would evolve quite a bit sooner. Of course, we'd look different and would probably be a descendent of some baboon-like animal, but there's the human sapience.
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Were the dinoceratans possible to live in the savannas? If not then the mesonychids will live in both savanna and rain forest, primates, dinoceratans, and proboscideans in rain forests and proboscideans, ratites, and primates on the savannas.
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Yep. In fact, dinoceratans, according to "Walking With Prehistoric Beasts" already lived on savannas.
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So then all the mammals I mentioned live in savannas, dinoceratans, primates, mesonychids, and ratites live in rain forests.

And since when were dinoceratans in "Walking with Beasts"?
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dinoceratans would probably occupy niches that rhinos do today of course , but how about some variation?
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What about hippo dinoceratans too?
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Those would probably work.

I think they were in WWPB. Brontotheres are a kind of dinoceratan, am I not correct?
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They were Perissodactyls.

And what's WWPB?
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Oh. The brontotheres just look like dinoceratans. My mistake.

WWPB = Walking With Prehistoric Beasts
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i preffered walking with monsters.
hippo dinoceratans sound good,
how about smaller warthog sized ones , would that work?
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You mean like this and this?

And what strange rain forest animals could come of proboscids like moeritherium? Could climbing forms occur, or would they be too outcompeted by monkeys and lemurs?
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