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[ARCHIVED] Postozoic (old); Earth, 25, 100, & 200 MYF -- old thread
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In this world, Earth is inhabited by humans for the next 5 million years, until they finally leave. Even though they have found out how not to harm nature, a mass extinction has occurred, and animals that are Extinct in the Wild have not been released back into the wild of Earth. Plus evolution has been slow as we have not allowed any mutants that have occurred to breed. Here we jump forward to year 25 million, where we will be looking at life. Also I would like to do 100 million years in the future and 200 million years.

World in 25 million years:
California has separated and drifted north west, and is covered in lush forests.

North America has separated from South America (though not by much) and moved slightly North, causing huge taiga in the North, forests around the current U.S.-Canadian border and around the coasts, huge prairie in the center, in Central America is a rainforest, and the south-eastern corner of the U.S. (around Florida to Louisiana, north to Southern Missouri (due to Mississippi river) and north to South Carolina) is a huge swamp from the slightly higher ocean level (due to more ice melted in Antarctica than frozen in Greenland).

South America has drifted slightly northward, causing the entire Northern 2/3 to be covered in rain forest, and the southern third to be covered in savannah.

Antarctica has drifted north too, and the southern half is covered in ice sheets, while the northern half covered in tundra savannah (coniferous trees). This has caused unique fauna to evolve in Antarctica.

Africa has crashed into Gilbratar, blocking off the Mediterranean and causing it to dry out, forming a huge salt desert. The northern half of Africa is dry savannah with Acaica plants littering the landscape, similar to todays African Savannah.

Europe’s western and northern side is covered in forest, the southeastern side is covered in prairie.

Asia is covered in rain forest to the south-east, the center of Asia in a huge strip is covered in forest, and now-Russia is covered in taiga. There is also a huge desert in the area of the Gobi desert today.

Australia has moved northward to the equator and crashed into Papua New Guinea, it is now covered in rain forest everywhere except for the central savannah, not too different from Africa’s savannah.

Africa east of the Nile has broken off and formed East Africa (AKA Lemuria) and is covered in rain-forests.

Madagascar has drifted farther from Africa, and is still covered in rain forest. The primary herbivores are lemurs, the primary carnivores are tenrecs, which are very diverse, resembling hedgehogs, otters, weasels, rats, etc...

Greenland has become bigger by way of the Canadian isles, and has moved northward to become an Australia-sized north pole Antarctica, effectively keeping the sea level at about the same level.

There is also approximately 30% oxygen content in the air from the extra plants in Antarctica, allowing arthropods to become 150% bigger (15 inches big approx), and bigger chordate limit.

You can call the habitats by these names.

Antarctic savannah tundra.
South American savannah/rain forest.
North American grassland plains/forest/Central American rain forest/taiga/swamp.
Californian forest.
West African rain forest/savannah.
East African rain forest.
Madagascar rain forest.
Australian rain forest/savannah.
European forest/grassland plains/Mediterranean desert.
Asian desert/forest/rain forest/taiga.

To name an animal, putting in the begging (name)/(ancestor)/(scientific name, if any)/(habitat) would be nice.

I'll put a survivor list, then creatures I created soon.

I'll also attach an early draft of it I made, but you need Pages (Mac OS X only) or possibly OpenOffice to open it.
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Here is the extinct, then survivor list.

Extinct:

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Xenartha -- Pilosa (Sloths, Anteaters)

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Afrotheria -- Afrosoricidia (Tenrecs, Golden Moles) -- Golden Moles
Tubulidentata (Aardvark)
Proboscidae (Elephants)
Sirenia (Manatees, Dugongs)

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Euarchontoglires -- Dermoptera (Colugos)

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Laurasiatheria -- Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs, Gymnures) -- Gymnures
Cetacea (whales, dolphins, porpoises) -- Whales, porpoises
Atiodactyla (Even toed ungulates) -- Peccaries, camelids, hippos, chevrotains, pronghorns, giraffids, musk deer (Tayassuidae, camelidae, hippopotamidae, tragulidae, antilocapridae, giraffidae, moschidae)
Perissodactyla (Equids, tapirs, rhinos)
Carnivora -- African palm civet, asiatic linings, felines, civets, malgasay carnivores, wolves, bears, red panda, walrus, sea lions, eared seals, and furred seals (Nandiniidae, prinonodontidae, big felidae, viverridae, eupleridae, wolf canidae, ursidae, ailuridae, non-raccoon procyonidae, odobenidae, and otariidae).

Mammalia -- Theria -- Marsupialia -- Microbiotheria (Monito del monte)
Peramelemorphia (Bandicoots, bilbies) -- Bilbies
Notoryctemorphia (Marsupial moles)
Diprotontia -- Vombatiformes -- Koalas

Aves -- Gaviiformes (Loons)
Podicipediformes (Grebes)
Phaethontiformes (Tropicbirds)
Togoniformes (Trogons)
Coliiformes (Mousebirds)
Struthioniformes (Ratites)

Reptilia -- Sphenodontia (Tuatara)
Squamata -- Amphisbaenia (Worm lizards)

Arthropoda -- Merostomata (Horseshoe Crabs)



Survivors:

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Xenartha -- Cingulata (Armadillos)

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Afrotheria -- Macroscelidae (Elephant shrews)
Hyracoidae (Hyrax)

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Euarchontoglires -- Rodentia (Rodents)
Lagmorpha (Rabbits, Pikas)
Scandentia (Treeshrews)
Primates (Less than half extant, apes extinct)

Mammalia -- Eutheria -- Laurasiatheria -- Erinaceomorpha (Hedgehogs, Gymnures) -- Hedgehogs (Erinaceinae)
Sorciomorpha (Moles, shrews)
Afrosoricidia (Tenrecs, Golden Moles) -- Tenrecs
Chiroptera (Bats)
Cetacea (Whales, dolphins, porpoises) -- Dolphins
Artiodactyla (Even toed ungulates) -- Pigs, small deer, small bovids (Suidae, cervidae, bovidae)
Pholidota (Pangolins)
Carnivora -- Hyenas, mongoose, fox canidae, skunks, mustelids, procyonidae, and true seals (Hyaenidae, herpestidae, canidae (only foxes), mephitidae (skunks), mustelidae, procyonidae (only raccoons), phocidae, and small felidae (felines))

Mammalia -- Monotremata (Echidnas, platypus) -- Only Platypus and Short Beaked Echidna

Mammalia -- Theria -- Marsupialia -- Didelphimorphia (Opposums)
Paucituberculata (Shrew opposums)
Dasyuromorphia (Marsupial carnivores) -- Tasmanian devil extinct
Peramelemorphia (Bandicoots, bilbies) -- Bandicoots
Diprotodontia -- Phalangeriformes (Possums)
Diprotodontia -- Macropodiformes (Kangaroos, wallabies)
Diprotodontia -- Vombatiformes (koalas, wallabies) -- Wallabies

Aves -- Anseriformes (Ducks, geese, screamers) -- Swans Extinct
Tinamiformes (Tinamous)
Galliformes (Fowl)
Charadriiformes (Gulls, allies)
Procellariiformes (Albatrosses, petrels, allies) -- Albatrosses extinct
Pelecaniformes (Pelicans, gannets, allies) -- Only gannets Extant
Ciconiiformes (Storks, ibis, allies) -- Only small ones like the bittern (small heron) Extant
Cathartiformes (New World vultures (condors, etc...) -- Only Black Vulture Extant
Phoenicopteriformes (Flamingos) -- American species extinct, African species Extant
Falconiformes (Raptors) -- Only caracaras, hawks, and secretary birds Extant
Gruiformes (Cranes, allies) -- Only Rails, finfoots, sunbrebes, and bustards Extant
Pteroclidiformes (Sandgrouse)
Columbiformes (Doves, pidgeons)
Psittaciformes (Parrots, allies)
Sphenisciformes (Penguins) -- Only Snares, Fiordland, Little Blue, Northern Little, Magellanic, Humbolt, and African penguins Extant.
Cuculiformes (Cuckoos, turacos)
Opisthocomiformes (Hoatzin)
Strigiformes (Owls)
Caprimulgiformes (Nightjards, allies)
Apodiformes (Swifts, hummingbirds)
Coraciiformes (Kingfishers, allies)
Piciformes (Woodpeckers, allies)
Passeriformes (Passerines)
Cariamae (Seriema)

Reptilia -- Crocodilia -- Gharials and most crocodiles extinct, alligators biggest survivors
Squamata (Lizards, snakes, worm lizards) -- Lizards, snakes Extant, worm lizards Extinct
Testudines -- Geomydidae (box turtles), emydidae, testudinidae (tortoises), and kinosternidae (mud turtles) Extant, all other families Extinct

Amphibia -- Frogs, salamanders, and caecilians -- Extant but greatly reduced

Arthropoda -- Only horseshoe crabs Extinct, but cockroaches, ants, and beetles biggest survivor, taking over lots of niches taken by other insects, spiders, scorpions, millipedes, and centipedes

Mollusca -- Gastropoda -- Land Snails -- Extant, but greatly reduced

Introduced/Invasive species that have survived in it's new habitat:

Wallabies, Muntjac, Rats, Rabbits, Grey squirrels, Minks, Water Deer in England
Weasels, Hedgehogs, Rats, Rabbits in New Zealand
Foxes, Rabbits, Goats, Cats, Pigs, Rats in Australia
Iguanas in Florida
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Animals that I have made for it:

Whaloseal -- True Seals -- Signumbalena -- Oceans: 50 feet long gray filter-feeding aquatic seal with more flipper-like front legs.

Hedgeatherium -- Hedgehogs -- Tigriceinae -- European Forest: 5 feet long gray tiger-like long-snouted carnivorous hedgehog with short quills over the body.

Otterseal -- Otters -- Lutrinsigna -- North/South American Coasts: Sea lion shaped brown otter. Takes seal niches.

Rabbideer -- Rabbit -- Lepuscervidae -- North American Plains: 5-15 feet tall, golden with white spots long-necked deer-like rabbits. Replaced deer in North America.

Arctic Rabbideer -- Rabbit -- Friguslepuscervidae -- North American Taiga: 7 feet tall gray wooly deer-like rabbit with a long body. Replaced deer in North America.

Hogatherium -- Hog -- Sustherium -- European Forest: 7 foot tall herbivorous brown hog with 4 tusks.

Rhinohog -- Warthog -- west African Savannah: 10 feet long (body) gray hairless herbivorous warthog with a 5 feet long neck and a 3 feet long proboscis.

Crocotter -- Otters -- Crocolutrinae -- North America and Northern Eurasia: 5-15 feet long black semi-aquatic otter with a long snout, tail, and webbed feet. Fills a crocodile-like niche. Lives where there aren’t crocodilians.

Antshrew -- Elephant Shrew -- African Savannah: 2 foot tall brown bipedal elephant shrew with claws on the hands and a longer proboscis, uses the claws to dig out ant and termite nests. I have adapted it from a similar fantasy rodent I had made before.

Beaver Vole -- European Water Vole -- western European Forest coasts: 3-4 feet long dark brown beaver-like Water Vole. Feeds on fish and leaves, and spends most of it’s time in the water, but lives on land in a burrow.

Seabat -- Bats -- European Forest coasts: 2-fingered 8-foot wingspan white sea-going piscivorous long-snouted bat. Replaces some seabirds.

Antarctic Bat -- Bats -- Antarctic Savannah Tundra: 6-foot wingspan brown carnivorous bat. It eats eggs and small rodents.

Baboontherium -- Hamadryas Baboon -- African Savannah: 4-feet long golden (males gray) carnivorous Baboon. They have grown claws, sharp teeth, lost the Ischial Callosities (big red butt) and opposable thumbs on the feet, with the hind feet become like long paws. The males also have a big mane. Lives in the ground instead on the trees. Just like lions, the male leads the pride and the females do the hunting.

Carniquoll -- Tiger Quoll -- Australian Rain Forest: 3-5 feet long brown with white spots tiger-like quoll.

Predator Rat -- Brown Rat -- European Plains: 5 foot long gray carnivorous rat. The 4 incisors have sharpened, stopped continuously growing, and have seperated to become farther apart, but there are no teeth in the gap.

European Baboontherium -- Hamadryas Baboon -- European Forest: 4 feet long brown carnivorous Baboon. They have grown claws, sharp teeth, elongated canines, and a decreased Ischial Callosities (big red butt). The males also have a big mane. Like lions, the male leads the pride and the female do the hunting. Is related to the Baboontherium, but unlike them still lives in the trees (but hunts on the ground), has elongated canines, and still has opposable thumbs on the feet. Came to Europe by island hopping the recently closed Mediterranean sea.

Antarctijou -- Kinkajou -- Antarctic Savannah Tundra: 4 feet long (with a 1 foot tail) Antarctic dwelling terrestrial grass eating Kinkajou. It still has it’s weasel-like shape. Came to Antarctica by island hopping.

Weaserax -- Tree Hyrax -- African Rain Forest: 3 feet long gray tree hyrax with opposable thumbs on the paws. Eats leaves and is arboreal.

Pigodillo -- Armadillo -- South American Grasslands: 4 feet tall 10 feet long armadillos with a circular body and a club at the end of the tail. They can eat anything, and are the pigs of South America.

Parasite Bat -- Vampire Bat -- South American Rainforest: A 1-inch long brown vampire bat . It lives in the trees, and it jumps on it’s prey back, rips a hole in it by way of the claw-finger in the elbow, sucks as much blood as it can, and then flies off.

Sloth/Monkey Bats -- Flying Foxes -- Quintadactyls -- southern Australian Rainforest: Primate-like arboreal bat species. The 5 fingers have lost the webbing (except for the sloth species, there is a membrane between the 5th finger and legs). It is 6 inches to 5 feet long, brown, and feeds on fruit. The smaller more active ones lost the gliding membrane, the larger more lazier ones still have it. The tail was also freed of the membrane and became like a prehensile primate tail, and grew more fur. They live in Southern Australia, because the Tree Kangaroo outcompetes them in the north. There are around 150 species, with small-medium insectivores, small-large fruigivores, and medium-large sloth-fruigivore-herbivores.

Weasenrec -- Tenrec -- Madagascar: 5-foot long brown arboreal tenrec. It is the apex predator of Madagascar, and is shaped like a weasel, except with slightly longer legs, an opposable thumb, a prehensile tail, sharp teeth, elongated canines. Native to Madagascar.

Birds:
Falconitherium -- Secretary Bird -- African Savannah: 6-8 feet tall flightless gray Secretary Bird with thicker legs, longer neck, and a bigger beak.

Falcowl -- Greater Horned Owl -- California: 6 foot wingspan owl with a bigger, longer beak and a longer face, replaces big raptors.

Therohoatzin -- Hoatzin -- South American Rainforest: 2-3 feet long arboreal black (with golden belly and a crest) arboreal Hoatzin with 3 fingers on the elbow of the wings. It can still fly, but usually climbs. It eats fruits and leaves.

Duckingo -- Duck -- South American Grasslands: 4-6 foot tall gray flamingo-like duck descendant with blue spots and thicker legs. Eats fish, crustaceans, aquatic plants, and grasses. Replaces American flamingos.

Sealguin -- African Penguin -- south African coasts: South African seal-like black and white penguins.

Reptiles:
Seaguana -- Iguana -- Caribbean sea (in both continents): A 20 foot long green Iguana with front flippers and back webbed feet and no spikes, it feeds off algae and sea plants. Replaces manatees. Also have become oviparous.

Arthropods:
Asian Land Crab -- Coconut Crab -- Asian Rain Forest: 6-inch long arboreal hermit crab (coconut crab) (males red, females black) without shells (have armor). They have lungs and are herbivores.
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Future World 100 MY future:

Everything is either rain forest Mediterranean forest, or swamp.

North America is attached to Eurafasia by Alaska. It is ruled by reptiles, kochlidtheres, and tree octopi.

Australia has collided with Papua New Guinea, then crashed into the Chinese coast. It formed a huge mountain range, higher than the Himalayas. It shall be called Neo-Himalayas. The ground herbivores are marsupials, the arboreal herbivores are monkey/sloth bats, the flying animals are flying lizards, and the predators are theriumonitors.

California has been subducted at the Northern Pacific plate, and no longer exists.

South America is no longer attached to North America, and is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It is covered 100% in rainforest, and has unique fauna again. It is ruled by mammals and birds.

Africa and Eurasia are one big continent, Mediterranean is a huge swamp. Greenland crashed into Siberia. It is ruled by reptiles, kochlidtheres, and tree octopi.

Eastern Africa has crashed into India. It is ruled by reptiles, kochlidtheres, and tree octopi.

Antarctica has moved northward to the equator in the Atlantic Ocean. It is ruled by mammals and birds.

Madagascar has been submerged by the sea level rising.

The sea level has been raised due to Antarctica and Greenland melting.

The world is hot due to the large amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, leading the reptiles to dominance.

Oxygen levels are rising due to the large rain and Mediterranean forests covering every continent.

The atmosphere is around 130% the density of today, so Quetzalcoatl-sized things can fly.

All mammal orders are extinct except for bats, rodents, lagmorphs, opposums, African monkeys, South American monkeys, sloth bats in Australia, armadillos, carnivora (only otters, raccoons, ratels, and Antarctic kinkajou), bandicoots, macropods, possums, and marsupial predators leaving most mammals as herbivores.

All bird orders are extinct except for passerines, owls, pigeons, and the 25 MYF arboreal theropod-like hoatzin descendants.

All amphibians are extinct.

Reptiles, snails, arthropods, and the newly arrived on land octopus are having their time.

Birds have been for the most part replaced by flying lizards (don't know which ones yet) and arboreal chameleons.

Lizards have been replaced by the Kochlidtheria.

Amphibians have been replaced by lizards.

In the sea:

Fish are mostly extinct.

Squids take whale and shark niches, sharks take cephalopod niches.

Jellyfish radiate and take over smaller carnivorous fish niches.

Sea snails radiate to and take over herbivorous fish niches.

How do you like it?
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I must say, great work.
When you say land octopus are they like The Future Is Wild's land squid or are they completely different.
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I would have to say like the swampus, possibly like a squibbon, but the arboreal geckos already hold the niche of arboreal herbivores, so maybe arboreal predators?

Also I have no idea what to for 200 MYF, during Pangea II
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Here is a .pdf file version of it. But it is not the complete draft, you must remember.
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I have added a few marine species for year 100 MYF.

Biped Snails/Land Snails/Kochlidtheria/All over the world except for South America and Antarctica: They are bipedal snails. They have evolved water-tight skin, and the foot has evolved 2 long legs at the side, which became normal legs, an endoskeleton, and the shell has become like the shell of a turtle. The herbivorous ones still have a radula with a lengthened mouth, but the insectivorous ones has become long, sticky, and spike-less. They also have a long tail to balance their weight. They outcompeted lizards because of the fact that they are hermaphrodites. They have also evolved amniotic eggs.

Trapjellies/Jellyfish/Oceans: A jellyfish descendant. It has evolved some tentacles which are stiff and in the shape of a cage, an advanced swimming (probably expulsion) system and guiding system, and still has the tentacles that sting to kill its trapped prey and pull it to its mouth.

Whalosquid/Squids/Oceans: A 70 foot long squid descendant. Its beak has become like baleen, and it uses its wider tentacles to form a cup shape to trap the plankton.

Mersnail/Lower Heterobranchia Sea Slugs/Oceans: These are the ones that have replaced most herbivorous fish. They look the same except that their bodies are streamlines, has evolved primitive flippers, and the back of the body looks like a dolphin tail.
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That's amazing. Good work. Which was your main inspiration for this project? Just a little bit curious. BTW, how old is this project?
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I started this project around the beginning of february, but I have been meaning to do this since I first learned about "The Future is Wild". Also Canis Lupus's "The Future is Bizarre" was also my insipration for it.
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One question. How does the flying lizards from the 100 million years world work? Are the wings of those animlas rib wings? Or did they developed some sort of glyding membrane that later evolved into a wing?
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Really cool and thought out, hope to see more. But, the only thing I couldn't imagine was sharks becoming squid-like, What do those sharks live and look look like? I can see squids becoming shark-like as many of them are pretty close.

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For the sharks, they could become smaller to take up that niche, and possibly have a grabbing tongue like in Primeval, or a long snout.
For the lizards, it's a gliding membrane from the ribs that fused with the arms and legs.

Some Changes I'm doing for year 100MYF:
Also, I realized that with the rising sea level the Madagascar will be submerged, so lemurs are extinct. Also, with South America being covered in rain forest the South American monkeys are extant.
The Kochlidtheria are also getting a tail to balance their weight.
The bat sloths and monkeys are alive for 2 reasons: 1 is they have a slow metabolism, which is good for the hot world, and 2 is: neo-giga-himalayas formed by Australia has stopped the geckos from competing them. Also, marsupials are not going extinct as they also have a lower metabolism, and the Kochlidtheria aren't in Australia yet too. But the flying lizards ARE in Australia.

**Edit** I have made the edits of the world in 100 MYF and the kochlidtheria.
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I like the whaloseal. If it swims with its front legs, does that mean it's descended from sea lions? I assume it gives birth in the water?

Can you give a more detailed description of the hedgeatherium? It puzzles me rather - I assume it's not very hedgehog-shaped?
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