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| Dyson Tree Life Idea and Vacuum-capable life; Thoughts on Dyson tree life and organisms able to survive in space. | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 6 2010, 01:21 AM (1,148 Views) | |
| StrandedAlien | Feb 6 2010, 01:21 AM Post #1 |
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I have this idea for a species of sapients (or two species) that lives on dyson trees. Presumably their ancestors evolved elsewhere, but at some point, the original owners of the trees disappeared and they just evolved from there. What sort of environmental pressures would be at work? Also, what would an organism need in order to survive at least temporary trips into the vacuum of space? |
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| Temporary | Feb 6 2010, 09:30 AM Post #2 |
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Tha ability to survive the extrme temperatures, the lack of any pressure, the ability to move around in space (well, you probably guessed that). Intense Radiation maybe a problem. Though, this should be easier then life that only lives in space. I mean, at least they could have a place filled with atmosphere created by the Dyson tree and a food source, so you have a little less work cut out for you. May I recommend you a composite asteroid in an asteroid belt? It's easy to imagine the plants growing a long to create bublle ecosytems and when the plant is running out of resources it should be easy to move the seeds to another asteroid. Hey! Maybe that's how they evolved. First living creatures meant to carry seeds, one mutates to reproduce directly without needing to live out the tree-stage, and slowly a species evolves. |
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| ATEK Azul | Feb 6 2010, 11:37 AM Post #3 |
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I might sound like a fool but What's a Dyson Tree? Is it simular to a Dyson Sphere? Also are you saying you want to make a Forest belt out of an Asteroid belt Temporary? |
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| Temporary | Feb 6 2010, 01:24 PM Post #4 |
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Dyson came up with the idea of an organism, like a plant, that could be grown on an asteroid to make it habitable. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking. |
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| colddigger | Feb 6 2010, 02:49 PM Post #5 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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how about the critter makes sealed sac like a cacoon or something that it uses to survive in space while jumping between dyson trees? |
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| Holben | Feb 6 2010, 03:07 PM Post #6 |
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Rumbo a la Victoria
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It could create the membrane from stretched out minerals. But the size needed to reach another asteroid- and they're moving. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| ATEK Azul | Feb 7 2010, 02:15 PM Post #7 |
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A forest belt would be an awsome project especially if the Asteroid Belt was densely packed in a way with part of it always facing the Star it orbits, the only time the Tree's closest to the Star would have night fall is when their asteroid spins away from the Star or another Asteroid drifts infront of it. I can see the plants eventually evolving vines to attach multiple(eventually all perhaps) asteroids together. and with the small gravity of individual Asteroids the atmosphere would leak off to be captured in the rest of the Forest Belt. Eventually as the Atmosphere expands it will become large enough to cover the entire Forest Belt and Vacuum life will no longer be neccisary unless an asteroid drifts out of the belt. I can also see Plants growing in drift dirt that was created from the decomposition of Plants. |
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| Ddraig Goch | Feb 7 2010, 02:38 PM Post #8 |
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How do the plants maintain an atmosphere? Surely it would just leak off into space? |
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| Temporary | Feb 7 2010, 03:07 PM Post #9 |
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It's been a while since I read about it, but it isn't an open atmosphere, I think it was closed off inside the plant itself, that way it doesn't drift off. Also, if we were to take over all the asteroids, we'd need a lot more then one species, or quickly adapt, so they don't run out of materials to metabolize. |
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| Ddraig Goch | Feb 7 2010, 03:12 PM Post #10 |
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So the plants are kinda like bio-domes? Bubbles filled with air, in which animals live (possibly in symbiosis)? |
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| Temporary | Feb 7 2010, 03:34 PM Post #11 |
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A link to a basic description. |
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| sam999 | Feb 7 2010, 09:18 PM Post #12 |
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Reminds me of the ships in creatures kinda. |
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| sam999 | Feb 7 2010, 09:23 PM Post #13 |
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From the write-up, it seems that all the inhabitants live inside the trunks and larger branches. Maybe the leaves' purpose is entirely for photosynthesis and heat echange, and they obtain CO2 from the inhabitants inside the trunk? Though, if the inhabitants live entirely inside the 4-6 main trunks plus hollowed branches, it seems like the branches enclose a huge volume of unused space between the surface of the comet nucleus and the branches of the tree. With OA technology, wouldn't it be possible for the tree's leaves to grow thick and dense enough that they overlap each other, then cover them with some sort of sealant on the comet-ward side (some kind of utility fog?), pressurize the space between the nucleus and the leaves with a breathable atmosphere, and allow the inhabitants to live in this volume, rather than cooped up inside the branches? Also is the tree spun for gravaty or not? |
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| sam999 | Feb 10 2010, 09:56 PM Post #14 |
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Bump? This was a good topic? |
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| colddigger | Feb 11 2010, 01:33 AM Post #15 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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it was a fine topic. how about the tree absorbs the asteroid completely, so now we just have a massive (super massive since the asteroid was solid and the tree is hollow, i assume the tree gathers dust from space as well to add to its mass) plant floating in space. since everything is taken in and released into the hollow area of the plant i doubt the leaves would need much surface area. or if having lots of surface area would even be a good idea... maybe needles would be a better method. no branches even, just a massive chambered plant ball covered in tough waxy pine needles. or rather not wax but some substance that keeps loss to a minimum without having to be replenished itself. |
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