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| Topic Started: Dec 25 2009, 11:10 PM (3,596 Views) | |
| TheCoon | Dec 25 2009, 11:10 PM Post #1 |
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This is quite a strange project. I don't know if this is future evolution or alternative evolution, but I think it's alter. evo. because some species look similar to Dicynodonts and others like Gorgonopsids, so here it is: http://www.themoraeriver.com/ |
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| Carlos | Dec 28 2009, 03:54 PM Post #16 |
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Actually no, pangolins and xenarthrans are more likely to develop bipedally than rodents, which are very ill suited for proper theropod style walking. Hell, even marsupials are more suited to theropod style walking, given their specialised pubic bones that cause the body tto be more rigid |
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| Canis Lupis | Dec 28 2009, 04:16 PM Post #17 |
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Dinosaurs eat man, woman inherits the Earth.
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Xenarthans. I forgot about them. Anyway, the reason I said rodents was because of their relatively fast reproductive rate. I've noticed that the faster a creature reproduces, the more prone it is to mutations. So rodents (particularly mice and rats) are particularly prone to mutations, and potentially a hip mutation. Still not as likely as some other kinds of mammals, but still up there in the likely list (though, granted, rodents are at the lower end of the likelihood scale). |
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| Holben | Dec 28 2009, 04:34 PM Post #18 |
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Rumbo a la Victoria
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I would like to see xenarthans developed here. Well, now we got on to balanced tails, look at the dinosaurs. They (i'm thinking of tetanurans here) had thick, long and tapering tails to keep upright, needed due to size. Well, rodents are very caring for their masses of young, so there is quite a high survival rate. They colonise very quickly. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| ATEK Azul | Dec 28 2009, 08:12 PM Post #19 |
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Transhuman
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Apparently the mountains are less than 300,000 years old and have had an isolating effect on certain species since atleast 300,000 years ago. I got that from the description of the Banded Terrinsc. I hope that helps with the timescale of the project. |
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| Canis Lupis | Dec 28 2009, 08:57 PM Post #20 |
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That means that these creatures must have evolved WAY before the mountain's formation. |
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| ATEK Azul | Dec 28 2009, 09:06 PM Post #21 |
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Transhuman
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True these could possibly be subspecies though given the time span of around 300,000 years. But we must keep in mind that this person has no concept of evolutionary time scales. For proof of this statement I give the example of the Banded Terrinsc which supposedly split form the Sabulo 300,000 years ago. This type of transformation needs many more millions of years than given in this project. So if we are to speculate on this I think we need our own time scale for it. |
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| Ànraich | Dec 28 2009, 09:47 PM Post #22 |
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L'évolution Spéculative est moi
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I invited the creator to join the forum, and he said he would. We may get the answers we want, just be patient. But don't keep that fact from you speculating. |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| ATEK Azul | Dec 28 2009, 09:54 PM Post #23 |
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Transhuman
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Awsome a new member with some interesting idea's! I hope we can help him with the realistic element of his project maybe help him make up his mind on what the actual project is. Also thanks for doing that Parasky. |
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| Brynn_Metheney | Feb 16 2010, 07:30 PM Post #24 |
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Pudding!
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I had no idea that my project was being discussed.... As for the 2 million years bit - I know its ridiculous. When I wrote everything, it was very ...very rough and I'm going back through everything trying to make it sound more plausible. There is a lot about Solturna that is still very "fuzzy" and I haven't really worked it all out yet. I'm in no way shape or form a biologist...I'm just an animal geek. As for the "Giant Flea" - Its in the reworks. I'll probably drop it all together. It was more an experiment of how far I could push things. The imbalanced tail is a result of poor drawing. It does need to be longer. lol Please know that the project is still very young and isn't really meant to be taken for hard scientific fact. I can't ever re-create what nature can do and I have no intention of claiming that this place actually exists. I would love any feedback any of you have to offer. and have read through the discussion already. I'm taking notes...Also...I'm female Edited by Brynn_Metheney, Feb 16 2010, 07:46 PM.
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Check out my project here: The Morae River And my other work here: BrynnArt.com You can see some of my process here: Fish Hook Studio | |
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| TheCoon | Feb 16 2010, 07:49 PM Post #25 |
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Hey! First of all, I personally love your drawing style. It's mind-blowing. About the project, everything is possible with GE (Genetic Manipulation). In fact, it's the excuse for most of the project's I've seen lately. The creatures might be Genetically Engenieered by humans for zoos or something, and then they escaped from civilized world and started a new food chain far away from humans. There's also the oportunity of alternative evolution. Most of the creature's I've seen in your project seem to have some rensemblance with Early Triassic animal (Dicinodonts and Early Mammals if you want to be more precise). This might be an alternative evolution project in which the T-J (Triassic-Jurassic) extinction never happened, and Dinosaur never took control of the world. Those are the main ideas I've got for your project's background story, or as I like to call it, your "project's excuse". Edited by TheCoon, Feb 16 2010, 07:51 PM.
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Greetings young life form! Procyon Lotor at your service.
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| Brynn_Metheney | Feb 16 2010, 08:04 PM Post #26 |
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Pudding!
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@ Lil'Cthulhu Thank you! I'm glad you like the look of the work. As for the origins and "reason" for the project, I'm not I want to settle on much as of now. There are lots of reason for these animals to exist but I'd rather leave it in the dark for now - whether it be GE or alt. evo. This project was originally created to be a personal exploration in world building and writing - that's basically it. As for moving forward on the project I am willing to change anything. Real science changes all the time and so should science fiction. Perhaps I can post sketches here to receive feedback? Edited by Brynn_Metheney, Feb 16 2010, 08:06 PM.
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Check out my project here: The Morae River And my other work here: BrynnArt.com You can see some of my process here: Fish Hook Studio | |
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| TheCoon | Feb 16 2010, 08:10 PM Post #27 |
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Sure. I find most of your creations accurate, but I do have a problem with the gigant arthropods (Because of the limitations of their exoskeleton) and with the Greater Fugamus (Because of the skeletal configuration of mammals, that make it almost impossible to form theropodal bodyplans) |
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| Canis Lupis | Feb 16 2010, 08:18 PM Post #28 |
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Sure, post your sketches. I'd love to see them (and again, amazing art and project. A few implausible concepts (mostly the theropod mammals and the giant arthropods, but nothing a little help can't fix)). And now for my belated welcome. Welcome! |
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| Brynn_Metheney | Feb 16 2010, 08:21 PM Post #29 |
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Pudding!
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@ Lil'Cthulhu - To be honest in the original drawings for the "giant flea" were a lot smaller. It would originally sit in trees and use some sort of appendage to grasp prey. It was more squid-like. I wasn't ever too fond of the Gigatus although I will be sad to see the Fugamus go... lol
Edited by Brynn_Metheney, Feb 16 2010, 08:24 PM.
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Check out my project here: The Morae River And my other work here: BrynnArt.com You can see some of my process here: Fish Hook Studio | |
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| Brynn_Metheney | Feb 16 2010, 08:21 PM Post #30 |
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Pudding!
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Edited by Brynn_Metheney, Feb 16 2010, 08:22 PM.
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Check out my project here: The Morae River And my other work here: BrynnArt.com You can see some of my process here: Fish Hook Studio | |
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and have read through the discussion already. I'm taking notes...

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