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The Shee and their planet, Albia
Topic Started: Dec 25 2009, 08:42 PM (1,838 Views)
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Jul 9 2009, 09:38 PM
They sound like a very interesting species can you give any other info on them? They also sound like aztec equivilents with the whole wheel part.


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Dec 26 2009, 02:57 PM
Gravity couldn't have achieved a disc-planet.
Yea it can, but it's awkward. There's more gravity at the poles than at the equator, and in order for it to be a disk shape the day would have to be a few minutes long. I've seen it done in science fiction before, and done well I might add. It's just difficult, as you have strange day-night cycles and organisms have to adjust to gradually increasing gravity the farther from the equator you get.
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"The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming

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I still think my way of it forming is more likely.
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The only problem is that a molten planet doesn't form into a disc shape naturally in that kind of way. Not unless it's spinning fast, about one rotation every twenty minutes or so. It takes a lot for centrifugal force to dominate gravity. But it might work out your way, I don't know for certain. I know quite a bit about astronomy, but oddly shaped planets are not something equations are regularly available for. You might check out a story called Mission of Gravity by Hal Clemet. It has a disc-planet like yours, it might have some answers.
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"The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming

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The gravity on the surface would change depending on where you where, and it might become tidally locked.
Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea.

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If the planet became tidally locked it would become a sphere again or shatter since the spin of the planet is maintaining the disc shape.
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Exactly, so it wouldn't last long.

Although a very dense object like a super-earth would not survive, a low-gravity small one might, perhaps? I honestly don't know.
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What exactly causes Tidal locking because the fast spin of this planet might actually keep it from tidal locking.
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Dec 27 2009, 03:23 PM
Exactly, so it wouldn't last long.

Although a very dense object like a super-earth would not survive, a low-gravity small one might, perhaps? I honestly don't know.
Albia is low-g
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Dec 27 2009, 12:53 PM
Not unless it's spinning fast, about one rotation every twenty minutes or so.
The astroid that started the disk formation of Albia hit at a near right-angle to the ground both melting much of the moon-sized lump it had hit and spining it up to the point where G-Force was throwing chunks of rock off the sides. The rusult was a disk of stone about the cerfrence of earth around but only a few hundred miles thick. The gravaty was great enught to hold air at life substaining levels around the eages of the disk and lower levels the closer it got to the center. Water, from comets hitting as the disk-planet fromed seas if it hit on the life-holding rim and huge walls of ice if it hit elswrer leaving Albia with far less water then a planet like earth. This did not stop life forming it the seas and begining to evolve...
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The disk shape is possible, earth isn't a perfect sphere.... What we need to know is the polar-equatorial radius ratio

The gravity need to be the main force on surface, if not the planet would be unusable, if have continents moving think what would happen with a pangea, the rotation axis would move nearer to the Pangaea continent and the opposite side would farer away with more centrifugal forces!

Haumea, is 1,960×1,518×996 Km isn't a disk but have a radius ratio not much greater than 2, I think that Albia shouldn't have a radius ratio greater than this, mainly because it's bigger.

And the oceans wouldn't move to the edges, they would cover all the surface equally because the plant is stable, if the oceans move to the edge means that the gravity have a component that's horizontal to the surface, that would affect the ground and the planet would be destroyed by the centrifugal force.
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Dec 28 2009, 07:15 AM
the oceans wouldn't move to the edges, they would cover all the surface equally because the plant is stable, if the oceans move to the edge means that the gravity have a component that's horizontal to the surface, that would affect the ground and the planet would be destroyed by the centrifugal force.
The seas of Albia are frozen due to the thin air alonge the sides and chunks or rock poke above them on the rim.
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The oceans wouldn't move to the edges, they would cover all the surface equally because the plant is stable, if the oceans move to the edge means that the gravity have a component that's horizontal to the surface, that would affect the ground and the planet would be destroyed by the centrifugal force.
Crators in the stone of the edges filled with water from comet impacts while the other water drifted over the sides of the planet and froze. Basicly Albia is like Mesklin but far lower (slightly less then earth at the rim) G so that the air needed for life is only found at the rims. Water flowing off the life-holding rim boils due to the lack of air, steams back up into the life-holding rim and falls as rain.
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Dec 29 2009, 09:28 AM
so that the air needed for life is only found at the rims. Water flowing off the life-holding rim boils due to the lack of air, steams back up into the life-holding rim and falls as rain.
I can't see why the air is on the rim, the lower gravity on the rim would increase the amount of air that scape to space.. or you're talking about the rotation axis being 0º and the polar caps are bigger?
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Dec 29 2009, 10:12 AM
or you're talking about the rotation axis being 0º and the polar caps are bigger?
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Water flowing off the life-holding rim boils due to the lack of air, steams back up into the life-holding rim and falls as rain.
If so why the water boils? It should freeze... The atmosphere have more air pressure in the poles than in the rim...
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