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| Topic Started: Dec 20 2009, 02:13 PM (8,073 Views) | |
| Yorick | Dec 20 2009, 02:13 PM Post #1 |
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I took someone's suggestion and created another topic to speculate on the moon's inhabitants' evolution. So...speculate! |
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| agatharights | Dec 30 2009, 04:38 PM Post #76 |
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I find it interesting that, while apparently Wayne Barlowe designed most of the animals, he didn't design the Na'vi. That explains a lot. Also, I'm about 800% more likely to get the "Art and Animals of Avatar" book now that I know Wayne Barlowe was doing designs WAYNE BARLOWE I LOVE YOU MARRY ME. Also, I wonder if the bioluminescence (I'm sure somebody already said this and I missed it) is simply a product of some sort of joined ancestry? Or simply a camoflage adaptation that proved to be so useful, it's about as common as spots and stripes on earth? |
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| Ddraig Goch | Dec 30 2009, 04:40 PM Post #77 |
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Genesis already mentioned camouflage. As for joined ancestry, do you mean with light producing bacteria? |
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| Kingpin | Dec 30 2009, 05:32 PM Post #78 |
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*Shrugs* Different circulatory system? But whatever. I've been thinking about the actual Avatar program. If they can succesfully transfer a human concscience into a different body, doesn't this mean that humans have created immortality? I mean, you're 123 years old. You're about to die of old age. You could just have your mind transplanted into a clone, or something. Overpopulation would be huge. |
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| Canis Lupis | Dec 30 2009, 06:03 PM Post #79 |
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Dinosaurs eat man, woman inherits the Earth.
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BTW, I just found out something interesting: Wayne Douglas Barlowe apparently worked on making some of these creatures plausible. The same guy who worked on "Expedition" worked on "Avatar". Interesting. EDIT: scratch that. Yellow beat me to it. One thing I'd like to bring up: the dire-horses. How is it that a creature, presumably as large as a hadrosaur, can obtain all its energy from nectar and not from anything else? Edited by Canis Lupis, Dec 30 2009, 06:13 PM.
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| lamna | Dec 30 2009, 06:15 PM Post #80 |
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As for immortality, well no. Clearly your Avatar is just a vehicle for your mind, you can't put your brain in it. And I heard that his designs got toned down. Originally the flyers were more like Manta rays. Also, does anyone else kind of want a Thanator? |
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| agatharights | Dec 30 2009, 08:40 PM Post #81 |
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Lamna, what is your avatar? It's...cat...monkey...ness...it fascinates me. Back on track, yeah, I imagine it'd could be phlorescent bacteria, or simply just...I'm not sure. Argh Barloooowe. I'm gonna find you and eat your heeeaaart and gain your talent for drawing crazy stuuuuuff :U Also, for Canis Lupis, having made some very large alien nectovores myself, I can answer like this. Really rich nectar, for one, and LOTS of eating. I imagine it'd have to be constantly eating. |
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| Ànraich | Dec 31 2009, 01:48 AM Post #82 |
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Nectar is very rich in sugar, that's pretty much all it is. What I'm wondering isn't how they get enough energy being a nectovore, that wouldn't be hard if there was enough nectar available and it was easy to access; how do they support all that muscle? They're REALLY muscular, where do they get the protein to keep those muscles? |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| agatharights | Dec 31 2009, 10:58 AM Post #83 |
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Maybe the plants they tend to have protein-rich sugar? I'm sure it could be possible, somehow. |
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| Empyreon | Dec 31 2009, 11:13 AM Post #84 |
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Technically no. As lamna pointed out, the Avatar program lets you "drive" a genetically engineered body, not transfer to it completely. If you were in your avatar, and your old body died, your avatar would drop to the ground just as lifeless. It was the Na'vi (well, the "Eywa" network, to be specific) that achieved a complete neural transfer, and the fact that their first attempt was a failure shows that it's no simple task.
That is exciting news! It explains why the fauna is so well developed ecologically.
Me, I'd take an ikran/banshee. They're just prettier.
This says that they also eat tree bark and shrubs. I imagine that's to supplement their nectar diet. |
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| Venatosaurus | Dec 31 2009, 11:23 AM Post #85 |
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AS for wanting the Thanator, the game itself allows you to ride Thanators, totally badass ! But I really want both books of Avatar, the Art and the Field Guide ! As for the neural transferance, in the game (I'm not sure of the film) the characters human body dies, while his Avatar is active, but one of the elder shamans is able to revive him and completely transfer his mind to his Avatar, permanently making him Na'vi. Edit: In the film the Tree of Souls can transfer the mind permanently
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| Empyreon | Dec 31 2009, 11:54 AM Post #86 |
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I read on Amazon.com that the "Art of" book is little more than a hardcover magazine in size, and that the contents weren't as impressive as other "Art of" books. But perhaps I'm getting outside the scope of the thread. So when you ride Thanators in the game, do you "make the bond" with their neural antennae? Or do you just ride and hope it doesn't try to eat you? I ask because I'm wondering if a thanator can be trained just like a direhorse or a leonopteryx. |
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| Kingpin | Dec 31 2009, 04:11 PM Post #87 |
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There are too many people to quote, so I won't bother. I hear what you guys are saying, about the immortality thing, and I understand the the actual brain is not being moved, but if the technology exsists to transfer ones 'self' into another body, even for a short period of time, then hypothetically it could be done perminantly. I don't focus so much on the Avatars, as the concept of controling them. The Avatars were biological cars because that was what they were intended for. But what I'm talking about is slightly different. You move into your Avatar, or clone or whatever, and simply don't keep the connection with your body. Sort of like how Jake Sully turned into his Avatar at the end of the movie. You aren't controling the body, but moving into it. |
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| Canis Lupis | Dec 31 2009, 05:32 PM Post #88 |
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Actually, in the original version (James Cameron was working on a different version of "Avatar" right after "Titanic" and he had the whole script written out. But technology hadn't yet caught up to his vision and the script made a five hour long movie, so it was overly edited into "Avatar". The old version explained A LOT), ALL transferences are successful. Grace survives the mental transfer. One of the main reasons the mental transfer didn't work in the version we saw (I'll call it "Avatar" and the other version "Project 880") was because Grace was shot in the gut and was very close to death when she was brought to the Tree of Souls. In "880", Grace died of natural causes and was not damaged in any way. So when N'Deh (her Na'vi lover (that was scrapped in "Avatar")) brought her to the Tree of Souls, the transfer was successful. I've got a link to the article about "880" that explains it all. It even explains why RDA has so much power. http://chud.com/articles/articles/21969/1/PROJECT-880-THE-AVATAR-THAT-ALMOST-WAS/Page1.html |
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| agatharights | Dec 31 2009, 06:26 PM Post #89 |
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So, my brother made a point about Avatar that made me laugh. "You know, if the earth is dying, couldn't they just make a bunch more money offering to use the avatar program for the rich and famous? They'd be like 'screw earth, who wants to live in a gorgeous nine-foot-tall super body?!'" |
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| colddigger | Jan 1 2010, 12:07 AM Post #90 |
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Joke's over! Love, Parasky
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once the military gets all the kinks out of the tech i'm sure that is what would happen. so Wayne Barlowe worked on it eh? glad to hear, his website hasn't updated in 2 years orso and i was wondering what he was working on... seems he enjoys the bioluminescents... |
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