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| Yorick | Dec 20 2009, 02:13 PM Post #1 |
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I took someone's suggestion and created another topic to speculate on the moon's inhabitants' evolution. So...speculate! |
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| Holben | Jan 5 2010, 02:09 PM Post #151 |
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Seeing as it floats, an awful lot of sustainable enrgy must be in there. They could have turbines like waterwheels, where the stuff turns the wheel rounds and round, creating electricity through a magnetic generator. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| lamna | Jan 5 2010, 02:17 PM Post #152 |
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No, they could not. People have been trying to make magnetic motors for a very long time, and they just don't work. Magnets don't contain energy. |
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| Holben | Jan 5 2010, 02:23 PM Post #153 |
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Well, yeah, but the fact they float could be harnessed, perhaps? But they could do that with heium baloons... |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| lamna | Jan 5 2010, 02:49 PM Post #154 |
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Perpetual motion and free energy, don't work. Physics is a cruel and very predictable mistress. |
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| T.Neo | Jan 5 2010, 02:56 PM Post #155 |
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Translunar injection: TLI
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The unobtainium doesn't produce a "lifting" force when it levitates; it just "sits" there (if my knoledge of levitating diamagnetic objects is correct).
That's one of the handy aspects of an "AntiPandora" chemical; it's harmless to humans, but extremely harmful to pandoran life, due to their different biochemistry.
Yeah... until Quaritch orders them to attack, which is essentially "guns blazing". So if they wanted to "fight" the ecosystem, they could at least do it more effectively.
Cheap labour which could also live in the native atmosphere and eat native foodstuffs. But the Na'vi are extremely strong-willed; you'll need some sort of means of getting them to comply and be passive.
Biotech is certainly a possibility (as earth in the 2150s is a barren wasteland), but I doubt about tourism, as Avatar's space travel still seems too costly to ferry large amounts of passengers to pandora. Perhaps a rich customer flying along once in a blue moon ala Dennis Tito or Mark Shuttleworth, but that's hardly a tourism industry.
Well, you can limit the collateral damage of an HE round by reducing fragmentation of the shell. Either way, it isn't the lack of HE that I find perplexing, but rather the uneeded use of AP. |
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| Holben | Jan 5 2010, 03:00 PM Post #156 |
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Yeah! Why use AP on flesh? Waste of factory time. If it 'sits', how does it get there? On Earth, it will be resisting enough gravity to pull it DOWN. |
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| T.Neo | Jan 5 2010, 03:17 PM Post #157 |
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Beats me. ![]() You have wind on Pandora, just like on Earth. I don't see why wind, thermals etc couldn't lift the rocks up over time. |
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| Holben | Jan 5 2010, 04:00 PM Post #158 |
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Well, yes, but it would have to be a very long and continuous, and very fast wind. It would destroy anything beneath. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| lamna | Jan 5 2010, 04:47 PM Post #159 |
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Who said they ever got up. Perhaps they were always there and the rest of the rock as eroded away. Also the Na'vi don't have to be transported light years. Even if they paid the Na'vi the equivalent of $100,000 a year they would still be saving money |
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| Empyreon | Jan 5 2010, 06:57 PM Post #160 |
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Are you plausible?
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It should be noted that the floating Hallelujah Mountains have nothing to do with unobtanium. According to the movie and its in-universe books, it has to do with the interacting magnetic fields of both Pandora and the planet it orbits. |
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| lamna | Jan 5 2010, 07:08 PM Post #161 |
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Oh, I heard they do contain it. They tried to mine the mountains but their was a horrible accident, which ii why they mind on the ground. |
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| Empyreon | Jan 5 2010, 07:12 PM Post #162 |
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Huh. I guess it is. My bad... |
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| lamna | Jan 5 2010, 07:29 PM Post #163 |
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Well I read that on TV Tropes so it might not be true. |
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| Empyreon | Jan 5 2010, 08:26 PM Post #164 |
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It said relatively the same thing at the Avatar wikia I go to. So it's some sort of interaction between the respective magnetic fields of the planets and the superconducting nature of the unobtanium in the rocks. It references the Meissner Effect. |
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| Canis Lupis | Jan 5 2010, 09:13 PM Post #165 |
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Dinosaurs eat man, woman inherits the Earth.
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That's what it is. The magnetic properties of the unobtanium react with the magnetic field of Pandora and Polyphemis to create the floating Halejuah Mountains (who cares about spelling anyway? )
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