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| Topic Started: Nov 21 2009, 11:38 PM (7,632 Views) | |
| Holben | Nov 22 2009, 03:55 PM Post #16 |
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I thought it was impossible to double post. Can't we start with progenitors, ie. precambrianites, so we know wherwe to start? |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| Ànraich | Nov 22 2009, 03:56 PM Post #17 |
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That is also a good idea, Canis. That would make things much easier, but our members seem to have several problems with deadlines. Particularly, keeping them... |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| Holben | Nov 22 2009, 04:01 PM Post #18 |
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Srry. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| Canis Lupis | Nov 22 2009, 04:04 PM Post #19 |
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Yes. Basically, the progenators are Vendian life. Article about them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ediacara_biota And here's an article about the Cambrian explosion, what arose on HE and what came from the explosion on HE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambrian_explosion BTW, whoever set up this subforum misspelled "rewriting". It has one "t", not two. Sorry, I'm just a grammar guy. That kind of thing gets on my nerves. Anyway, maybe we could make an announcement about this. Peiole are more apt to keep deadlines if given ample time to prepare. Edited by Canis Lupis, Nov 22 2009, 04:17 PM.
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| Holben | Nov 22 2009, 04:05 PM Post #20 |
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Yeah, i noticed, but Parasky has POWER. Anyhoo, thanks for the links. |
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| SIngemeister | Nov 22 2009, 04:12 PM Post #21 |
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Are ediacarans like seapens? |
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| Canis Lupis | Nov 22 2009, 04:23 PM Post #22 |
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Seapens? If you are meaning charniodiscus, yes. That's an ediacaran. But if you are talking about the cnidarian sea-pens, one could consider them ediacarans. Though that would be kind of on the paleontological fringe, seeing as sea-pens are cnidarians rather than ediacarans. If you considered sea-pens ediacarans, all cnidarians would have to be considered ediacarans. Otherwise, you would have a polyphyletic group. |
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| Holben | Nov 22 2009, 04:25 PM Post #23 |
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Maybe we could have bottom-dwelling ediacarans with sucking mouths on the underside. |
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| Canis Lupis | Nov 22 2009, 04:57 PM Post #24 |
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We could, yes. Possibly, we could have ediacaran-derived annelids. Or just a larger radiation among annelids that came about in the Cambrian explosion. |
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| ATEK Azul | Nov 22 2009, 05:27 PM Post #25 |
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I think swimming omnivorous Trillobites would be awsome(they could beat the Scorpians to the land by feeding on Fungus on the shore)! And yes I am pretty sure Fungus was on land by the Cambrian. If we have fungus being more populace on land, then maybe Lichen could take over the land eventually? Also how about instead of killing off Vertebrates and making every thing Invertebrates. Maybe you could have Chordates evolve for digging under the sand instead of into fish? That might make some interesting adaptations and definantly change vertebrates. |
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| Canis Lupis | Nov 22 2009, 06:18 PM Post #26 |
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Yes, that would definantly change vertebrates. Though I still find it more likely that chordates would go extinct almost immediately. Though that is definantly a point to consider. I've done some research, and have found that fungus did not appear until the early Devonian. So maybe fungi forms a symbiotic relationship with algae to get on land faster. In other words, lichen is the first land plant. Though whether lichen continues to dominate land after the late Ordovician (when I predict lichen would get to land in this universe) is up for debate. Thoughts? Oh, and I love the idea of swimming trilobites. |
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| sam999 | Nov 22 2009, 06:25 PM Post #27 |
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How about haveing evolved anomalocaris take the place of fish? This would mean some very starnge life. |
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| Canis Lupis | Nov 22 2009, 06:34 PM Post #28 |
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That's exactly what I was thinking. And it would be highly plausible, especially if chordates never evolve. Though the anomalocarids were thought to be dumb animals, seeing as how their method of swimming was so highly stable that they didn't need to be intelligent to control it. |
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| ATEK Azul | Nov 22 2009, 06:46 PM Post #29 |
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Maybe Anomalocarids would get bigger brains as their prey becomes faster and more intelligent. If they evolved into faster more intelligent predators they would have to change their body maybe loose some limbs I don't know but if they survived to present day I think they would look different. I also still think killing endoskeletons is a mistake(and the cartillage in squids does not count) I mean come on eventually all Invertebrates look the same and are tiny. Not my favorite scenario. I am glad you like the swimming Trillobite idea. |
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| Canis Lupis | Nov 22 2009, 07:07 PM Post #30 |
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The anomalocarid thing makes sense. BTW, just because chordates may not evolve, that doesn't mean that large life won't exist. In HE, cephalopods were pushed to lose their shells by evolutionary pressure from the fishes. Thus, cephalopods lost their shells and could colonize shallower waters. And, on HE, most cephalopods have a "backbone" (a pen, which is all that remains of their shells). So I was thinking: anomalocarids were more vicious predators than fish were, so if they dominate the seas, maybe that will push cephalopods to lose their shells faster. Thus pushing cephalopods into shallower waters quicker with a "backbone" under their mantle. And maybe, just maybe, a terrestrial existance would evolve. They've got all the right adaptations. They've got a bouyancy sac, like fish from HE have. In fact, the bouyancy sac was what gave the fish an advantage over land living arthropods on HE. This advantage came in the form of an efficient respiratory system. So, with their own bouyancy sac and without competition from fish, I wouldn't be too surprised if cephalopods found their way onto land on NE. That could just be my fondness of mollusks talking though. Any thoughts? |
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