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| Strangers in the Dark; a.k.a. Graes | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 18 2009, 09:58 PM (1,267 Views) | |
| Canis Lupis | Oct 18 2009, 09:58 PM Post #1 |
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My latest short story:
And the movie trailer that started it all: Reason I'm posting this: What's your opinion of the Graes (the aliens)? And how can we make them more plausible while still keeping in mind the basic things people see? Basically this list:
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| Holben | Oct 19 2009, 08:29 AM Post #2 |
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I don't think we would meet aliens like that. Any other races would exterminate them. And the appearance, why would they be humanoid? It's the sign of fiction. Blues are the nice ones, what other types are there? |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| Ddraig Goch | Oct 19 2009, 10:16 AM Post #3 |
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I don't think there's any reason why another intelligent race could not be humanoid - although it is unlikely. Also, the Roswell incident. Around the time, there were reports of about a dozen crashed UFO's. Do these greys not have driving tests, or something? One thing I've always wondered about is the mouth. Just a line, or a small hole. Apparently, it's only used for breathing. Do they photosynthesize, then? |
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| Holben | Oct 19 2009, 02:46 PM Post #4 |
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They eat the engine of the ship, so it crashes. |
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Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea. "It is the old wound my king. It has never healed." | |
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| Ddraig Goch | Oct 19 2009, 03:57 PM Post #5 |
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So even aliens have idiots? Thing is though, a landslide in Peru in (I think the 1980's) churned up a load of skulls. Most of them seemed roughly humanoid, but with a massive cranium. Now, I know the Inca's used to bind the heads of their children, making them weird shapes, but eventhat can't explain how big the brains of these things must have been. |
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| Scrublord | Oct 19 2009, 04:00 PM Post #6 |
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But why would alien skulls be made of the same material as human skulls? And di anyone do a DNA sample? |
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| Ddraig Goch | Oct 19 2009, 04:12 PM Post #7 |
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I don't know whether anyone did a DNA sample. But I think the scientists said that they weren't a hoax. Thing is though, the amount of legends, pictograms, carvings, accounts and actual evidence would seem to suggest that aliens have been flying around our skies ever since the first civilisation occured. Scientists hypnotised people after reports of abductions, and found that almost the entire population of the USA has memories of being abducted! And presumably this happens all over the world... surely the human body isn't that complex? And why travel all that way (presuming that they didn't just come from Venus) just to study a primitive, badly-adapted species? It makes literally no sense! (PS Not angry at any of you, just angry at the lack of sense!) Edited by Ddraig Goch, Oct 19 2009, 04:25 PM.
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| Temporary | Oct 19 2009, 04:49 PM Post #8 |
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1. The skulls, some were just caused by the skull augmentation. Others suffered from hydrocephalus or something similar. They were human, if I am remembering the right event. 2. The hypnosis can't be taken seriously. False memories are created through hypnosis. 3. As for legends and myths, well, I'll say this. The farther back you go the harder it is to understand what they were talking about. So mostly, I don't count this as evidence. 4. I want to believe. I honestly do. Do you how many people have seen ufos or something, and weren't lying or nuts? We have serious scientists that, a nuclear physicist comes to mind, that is incredibly famous for these things. Some of the mythological 'evidence' really makes me wonder. That said, I'm still a skeptic. I haven't seen enough to beleive, and I won't until an alien knocks of my door and says 'Hi, can I borrow some antimatter for my super-baryon realtivistic drive?' |
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| Kain | Oct 19 2009, 05:46 PM Post #9 |
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Every time I see representations of Grey's or hear a story about abductions of, or contact with, the Grey's, and given their extremely humanoid appearance, only one possible explaination makes sense for me. Time travelling archeologists from the future. Abducting cows is how they study extinct animals. I mean, think about it: 500.000.000 years ago: The first vertibrae survives because there is no hunter in it's era agile enough to pose a threat to it. 450.000.000 years ago: Fish develop a brain to outsmart the sea-scorpions. 400.000.000 years ago: The first amphibians go to dry land to escape sharks and other giand fishes. 200.000.000 years ago: A mass extinction wipes out the reptile-mammals, and gives rise to mammals and the dinosaurs. 65.000.000 years ago: A meteorite wipes out the dinosaurs and gives rise to mammals. 10.000 years ago: An ice age produces Homo Sapiens. (...More or less...) We are a product of extreme coincidences, statistically impossible to happen in another life-faring world with the same results. Edited by Kain, Oct 19 2009, 05:48 PM.
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| Canis Lupis | Oct 19 2009, 05:58 PM Post #10 |
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My personal opinion: this things could exist. Even with a humanoid stance. If these Graes come from a lower gravity world, the bipedal stance would be rather helpful. Especially as predators. Now, abducting and studying humans is another story. I don't believe in UFO's or abduction or Roswell or anything like that. But I do believe in aliens. I just don't believe they've come to visit us yet. But still...what if? Anyway, about the small mouth, I've noticed that some depictions of Graes have wrinkles around their mouth. To me, this suggests that the mouth can expand to swallow larger prey. It just comforms to a smaller shape when not in use. I'm of the mind that the Graes have evolved the inner layer of their lips into some sort of tooth-plate for chewing. This would be effective for its ancestors, but I don't see it as being all that desirable in the modern Graes. Due to intelligence and lack of evidence of any solid food, I'm of the mind that modern Grae upperclass (made of warriors, scientists, and nobility) surgically removes these teeth-plates early in life as the main Grae religion (which perceives the Graes as the pinnacle of evolutionary development and where the Graes worship themselves) teaches that teeth-plates are a remnant from an inferior past. All inferior signs must be removed in order to ascend into even greater evolutionary superiority. Holbenilord: to answer your question, my research has told me of three different kinds of Graes. These are:
In no way am I suggesting that Graes actually exist, nor am I suggesting that the Graes would be this way if they did exist. It's just some characteristics based on eyewitness accounts, photos, and artist depictions. |
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| Ddraig Goch | Oct 20 2009, 10:30 AM Post #11 |
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The grays-religion-thing may be speculation, but it's definately plausable. I too believe that intelligent life may be out there, but the whole grays-thing may just be hallucinations or false memories, like Temporary said. The idea of an expandable mouth is very interesting. I think it would explain a lot. I think that if we were to try and explain how such things have evolved, we would have to have an idea of what conditions they evolved in. |
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| Temporary | Oct 20 2009, 03:42 PM Post #12 |
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Well, as I said, I do WANT to believe, I just can't. But there is one theory that jumps to mind: Another alien group called the Reptoids, slightly less common in abductions but still present, evolved on Earth and went into space. Eventually they engineered the Greys for slaves and went from there. Now, as for their appearance, the Grey may have been the product of mixing hominid and cetacean genetics in ways to create slaves. The small mouths and lack of enough room for most known organ structures could be a way of limiting their homeostasis, forcing them to be reliant on injections of certain drugs to keep them as slaves. Their eyes may be modified version of cetacean eyes to be visible in the dark of space, and they have grey skin which would be prone to UV damage. Finally, the abductions could be explained by a small group trying to rebel, stealing human genes to make their descendents, which in this theory are related to humans, less reliant on the live-giving slave-master Reptoids, effectively helping to make them free. Or the idea they are from the future makes since too. Especially when considering the oh so common quote "We have the right to do this". |
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| Ddraig Goch | Oct 20 2009, 03:55 PM Post #13 |
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Oh, the Reptoids. I'd forgotten about them. Don't some believe them to be planning a"great invasion", to try and turn the Earth back into the Mesozoic-dinosaury place it was when they left? (Some believe that they settled in the Draco constellation, but that would just be way too much of a coincidence). I think that slaves could be true of the grays. Perhaps not to overgrown dinosaurs with blasters, but they do seem a bit too interested in Earth and humanity. Perhaps they have merely been ordered to abduct and examine as many humans as possible... That's it! We're the equivilant of frogs in a biology classroom; "Today, we will be studying the primitive, sapient lifeform of the small planet which we are currently orbiting, Earth. Now, if you all take out your laser scalpels..." Still, whilst all this is probably most true of the grays (if they exist), I still wonder what conditions a planet would have to have to cause them to evolve into weird goblin-thingies. |
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| Kain | Oct 20 2009, 04:28 PM Post #14 |
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What if they were aliens that use some natural form of shapeshifting? How about an octopus-like alien with tentacles elastic and strong enough to be able to take humanoid form? Something like this (I made it in a hurry). ![]() A suit with gloves could cover the tentacles, so it could pass as humanoid. The reason for an alien to do all that, though, I can't even begin to imagine... |
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| Temporary | Oct 20 2009, 05:27 PM Post #15 |
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Look up Mimic Octupus. That sounds a lot like a sophont version of one, I'll admit. |
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