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Avalonian Fauna
Topic Started: Oct 6 2009, 11:32 AM (5,270 Views)
VulcanTrekkie45
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Hey everyone. I was hoping you guys could give me a hand. I'm in the middle of a project on another forum called Avalonia Alone, in which Avalonia didn't break up into New England and Western Europe as it did in our world. I've got a general idea for climate, which you'll find in the thread. But I was hoping that you could give me a hand with some of the animals native to the island. My guess is it'd be dominated by multituberculates, with some creatures that are descendants of the last common ancestor of placentals and marsupials. But I'd live some more specifics. If you'd like to help me out, that'd be awesome.

Also, if any of you are good artists, I'd love drawings as well.
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Well I don't know much about agriculture, I guess the plants would just be bought in along with domestic animals, there would probably be populations of escaped domestic animals.
Since a lot of the area is forest I imagine forestry would be a major industry.
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Ice cabbages? I assume, becuse root vegetables are more prevalent in northern climes, that there would be carrots, etc.
Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea.

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VulcanTrekkie45
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Hmm. Good point. The only thing I would've thought is that since it was first inhabited before the end of the last Ice Age, the people there would be able to domesticate their own species of plants and animals as their society develops.
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The first people might not of brought over domestic animals, unless they had dogs, I can't remember where and when they were domesticated. But there will be other people coming on afterwards that would bring foreign plants and animals with them.
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VulcanTrekkie45
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Hmm, true enough. I do have the Avalonians coming in successive waves over time, like the English did coming to England. Though I think it'd be interesting to have some home-grown domesticated plants and animals as well as the familiar ones we know and love.
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Would we have all the North Germanii, like the Jutes and Angles and Vikings popping in? They were great traders, and could bring a whole new batch of foreign fauna.
Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea.

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It's almost like Atlantis... In reverse! :D
If only, it almost seems like this would have been a better world than ours, if only we could see if that is true. :)
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Dec 29 2009, 02:46 PM
Would we have all the North Germanii, like the Jutes and Angles and Vikings popping in? They were great traders, and could bring a whole new batch of foreign fauna.
Actually, all the Germanic groups are stuck on a small island that is Denmark in our world. When I made that allusion to England, I mean just in the fact that the English are made up of many different ethnic groups. What I'm thinking for peopling is having Proto-Celts, Proto-Iberians, and Proto-Picts being the first Avalonians to come about 12,000 years ago. Later, we'd see Phoenecians, Tartessians, Romans (if we're phenomenally lucky), and Micmac waves coming to Avalonia.

And thanks for the vote of confidence, El Moppo. :lol:
Edited by VulcanTrekkie45, Dec 29 2009, 04:14 PM.
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Oh, okay. Sorry.
But would the people still be mainly germanic?
Time flows like a river. Which is to say, downhill. We can tell this because everything is going downhill rapidly. It would seem prudent to be somewhere else when we reach the sea.

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Dec 29 2009, 04:16 PM
Oh, okay. Sorry.
But would the people still be mainly germanic?
The Avalonians? Germanic? No, not in the slightest. The Germanic people are stuck on an island off the coast of Scandinavia. They won't play a role in world events, really at all. They'll just fade into the background of history as nothing special.
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Dec 29 2009, 05:06 AM
The first people might not of brought over domestic animals, unless they had dogs, I can't remember where and when they were domesticated. But there will be other people coming on afterwards that would bring foreign plants and animals with them.
Dogs were the first animals domesticated, so it would be safe to assume so. They were domesticated right before the Agricultural Revolution, just as people had began to settle down from a nomadic life as a hunter/gatherer. That's actually the origin of the story of the boy raised by wolves comes from. People said that they found a boy raised by wolves, and the wolves refused to leave him, and thus started living with the people. That's probably not true, but it's interesting to think that we still remember stories pre-dating civilization itself.
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VulcanTrekkie45
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Right. So dogs and such are fair game. After all, even the early Australians had "domesticated" canids. Other than that, mostly native Avalonian animals, I should think.

I think maybe they'd use the Titigili and similar animals for cattle equivalents, but other than that, I'm not sure.
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Bump. I have a map update. Here are the completed base map, regional map, and biome map.

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Good maps, they're a bit small so I can't see the keys on them.

Also, those anyone think it is possible for some type of ratite to live on Avalonia. I think fossils of ratites where discovered in Europe during the Eocene, although I'm not sure if they would be on Avalonia.
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I think most likely not. After all, they didn't evolve until after Avalonia had already rifted off from the other continents.
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