New Zeland marsupials

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New Zeland marsupials
Topic Started: Oct 4 2009, 06:40 AM (883 Views)
JohnFaa	Oct 4 2009, 06:40 AM Post #1
Adveho in mihi Lucifer Posts: 7,699 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Modern New Zealand is famous for its population of opossums. Its needless to say the possibilities of the future diversity of opossums in these islands. However, one thing most people here might not know is that quolls were introduced too. And appearently they are beating their placental competitors! This is largely because quolls are more adapted to kill birds than ferrets and cats; whereas birds like wekas, for example, can beat up placental predators, they don't seem to stand a chance against quolls. More adapted to the bird dominated world of New Zealand, quolls could likely replace introduced placentals, offering a more unique linage of predators to New Zealand. Truly, marsupials seem to have loads of possibilities in the future



The Dodo	Oct 4 2009, 10:00 PM Post #2
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,207 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Alternative Evolution Nationality: Australian	I think you mean possum, I think opossum refers to the American marsupials while possum refers to the Australian marsupial and as far as I know only the Australian one has been introduced. If quolls are going this well in New Zealand they could probably outlive the native Australian ones.



JohnFaa	Oct 5 2009, 03:52 AM Post #3
Adveho in mihi Lucifer Posts: 7,699 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	Most likely, if australian quolls are driven to extinction by cane toads



The Dodo	Oct 5 2009, 05:42 PM Post #4
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,207 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Alternative Evolution Nationality: Australian	An interesting side note some Australian animals are adapting to the cane toads, some snakes have evolved smaller heads so they won't swallow the toad, some crows have learnt to only eat the non-poisonous part of the toads and I think some quolls have learnt to stay away from them. Maybe a New Zealand quoll could evolve into something like a thylacoleo.



JohnFaa	Oct 6 2009, 01:56 AM Post #5
Adveho in mihi Lucifer Posts: 7,699 Group: Members Member #5 Joined: May 31, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Portugayse Favorite Quote: Blame is the playing of children and is given to many like a gift that cannot be returned. Acceptance is the tool of the mature that is rarely loaned out.	I can only hope australian fauna gets some sense and avoids getting extinct by them. I though mostly of marten and fossa analogues, given New Zealand's limited territory, though a truly large species could evolve should somehow the islands form a larger landmass in the future; maybe they'll colide with New Caledonia again



crueldunya0000	Oct 6 2009, 03:53 AM Post #6
ProudMuslim Posts: 294 Group: Members Member #65 Joined: Aug 23, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: Islam is not nation-centric Favorite Quote: "The most beloved of deeds to Allaah is the one that is continuous, even if it is little.”	The Dodo Oct 4 2009, 10:00 PM I think you mean possum, I think opossum refers to the American marsupials while possum refers to the Australian marsupial and as far as I know only the Australian one has been introduced. If quolls are going this well in New Zealand they could probably outlive the native Australian ones. When and where from were Aussie Possums introduced?



lamna	Oct 6 2009, 06:27 AM Post #7
What is best in life? Posts: 13,598 Group: Global Mods Member #26 Joined: Jul 1, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: British	Well they are Common Brushtail Possums so they could have been from almost anywhere in Australia. They were introduced for the fur trade, but I don't know when. Some time between the 1830's and just now I expect.



Holbenilord	Oct 10 2009, 03:16 PM Post #8
amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin, monotonous whine of accursed flutes Posts: 11,368 Group: Members Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	So many animals hop around the continents these days. Intentionally or not, and they can do quite a bit of damage.



ATEK Azul	Nov 19 2009, 10:13 PM Post #9
Transhuman Posts: 2,411 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: Sep 20, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: usa	So are Marsupials going into this project and reviving it or is this like a mega dead part of the forum?



The Dodo	Nov 20 2009, 01:17 AM Post #10
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,207 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Alternative Evolution Nationality: Australian	I've asked a similar question and apparently the author is to busy with other things.



ATEK Azul	Nov 20 2009, 12:47 PM Post #11
Transhuman Posts: 2,411 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: Sep 20, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: usa	Okay I was just wondering. I unofficially declare this forum and its lesser parts extinct until further discoveries(lol).



Holbenilord	Nov 20 2009, 01:48 PM Post #12
amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin, monotonous whine of accursed flutes Posts: 11,368 Group: Members Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	I just discovered that it will probably be dead for quite a while.



ATEK Azul	Nov 20 2009, 02:27 PM Post #13
Transhuman Posts: 2,411 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: Sep 20, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: usa	Okay well I wasn't a big fan of the project any way. This topic was the best part of the project in my opinion. Also is there a way to recycle these sections of the site?



Holbenilord	Nov 20 2009, 02:28 PM Post #14
amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin, monotonous whine of accursed flutes Posts: 11,368 Group: Members Member #220 Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	You could write them down, and give them to someone important.



El Squibbonator	Nov 20 2009, 03:21 PM Post #15
Recovering EVAholic Posts: 1,812 Group: Members Member #169 Joined: May 5, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: USA Favorite Quote: Maybe if we started looking at whats the same instead of always looking at whats different. . .well, who knows-- Meowth	Does this mean the whole Evolutionary Continuum project is shutting down?



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