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The Alien; Ripley's nemesis
Topic Started: Sep 7 2009, 05:46 AM (7,881 Views)
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You know the alien. That face hugging, acid dripping, stomach bursting, cantankerous creature of HR Giger's fantastic imagination. We're talking about Ellen Ripley's nemesis and Ridley Scott's meal ticket.

Terrifying and slightly resembling your boss, she has made an indelible impression on movie-goers for 30 years. Unfortunately that impression has been watered down as this ferocious beast of deep space has never been explaned. For this we want how it works. Is the facehugger, chestbuster, monster a working idea? Could it evolve? What good is it? So here is where to post ANYTHING that has to do with this space monster.
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I don't think it has to hold onto the outside of a face in order to plant its seed. For something as large as a whale maybe it can just find a spot inside the animals throat to lodge itself and do its awful deed. There's no evidence of that in the movies or anywhere else that I know of, but it's a thought.
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Sep 16 2009, 02:53 PM
I don't think it has to hold onto the outside of a face in order to plant its seed. For something as large as a whale maybe it can just find a spot inside the animals throat to lodge itself and do its awful deed. There's no evidence of that in the movies or anywhere else that I know of, but it's a thought.
I gess it could. Wailens are just... nasty think a alien like in the moives but huge and swiming... creepy :o
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It just needs to get the egg into the gut, so if it was eaten or clamped on at the back of the throat (whales have very narrow ones) it should work.
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Sep 17 2009, 12:25 PM
It just needs to get the egg into the gut, so if it was eaten or clamped on at the back of the throat (whales have very narrow ones) it should work.
Would that not sufacate the whale haveing a facehugger stuck in its throat?
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Nope, whales breathe though their nostrils like a normal mammal.
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Nope, whales breathe though their nostrils like a normal mammal.
So the facehugger crawls down the digestove path? Weird I always thought it used the lungs as in the gut there is acid. Then agen when you think about the stuff it makes I gess that would not be a prblem.
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I don't know, it pops out the stomach so I assume that is where it was laid.
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I remember reading the novelization for Alien 3 long ago, and it talked about the queen developing lower in the host body (read: uterus) than a normal alien. I assume from that that the normal aliens are in the stomach.
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I remember reading the novelization for Alien 3 long ago, and it talked about the queen developing lower in the host body (read: uterus) than a normal alien. I assume from that that the normal aliens are in the stomach.
Since males do not have a uterus but a chestbuster can grow in them I think all aliens are in the stomach.
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Yes, but not all aliens are queens, are they? Maybe queen facehuggers are more selective.
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Yes, but not all aliens are queens, are they? Maybe queen facehuggers are more selective.
That would mean queens could only grow in females.
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Yes, the theory that queens require a host uterus in which to develop does imply that they are limited to female hosts. If there's evidence to refute this theory then I guess it gets thrown out the window.
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i have evidence.

they are aliens. simple as that.

a little more detail i guess... the uterus is an Earth organ, anything not from Earth will not have such an organ and so if that were true then the aliens were developed specifically for Earth, after the evolution of mammals even!
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So you're saying that just because an alien isn't from Earth it can't have a uterus? They simply can't exist outside of our biosphere? By that same logic, neither should any aliens have fur or feathers. Do we own the copyrights on those traits?

And perhaps it's not specifically that the queen facehugger seeks to deposit its seed in a uterus per se, but into whatever reproductive system the host has. In the case of Ripley-- a mammal-- that's a uterus.
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i was considering that, the reproductive organ thing, but then you have to consider that an aliens reproductive organ -if it even grows its young inside it at all- would probably be rather different than a uterus, so the growing parasite would have to be an extreme generalist.

also, no, an alien can't develop a uterus, it can develop something like one though, fur is a very simple thing which i can see an alien developing, feathers i'm not sure about...i'm sure something like it can be achieved...

so in otherwords, yes, if they try to evolve a uterus we will sue their asses.
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