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Vegan idiots are idiots
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Fungi are even more murderous than plants; they infect animals and kill them! How evil it is to control insect populations!

Lets face it, all lifeforms must die!
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what about the cyanobacteria?
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They murdered most of our world's lifeforms billions of years ago when lifeforms that weren't adapted to oxygen lived
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oh snap! forgot about that! those bastards...
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Fungi can't survive on there own. Vultures generally only eat carrion, but won't live long if everything else is dead.

I say just Kill em All and let someone else sort em out.
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They murdered most of our world's lifeforms billions of years ago when lifeforms that weren't adapted to oxygen lived
Read about the Anaerobic Genocide here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_Catastrophe
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how about lichens, or deepsea bacterias, or even those deep sea tubeworms? i don't think they actually eat the bacteria they grow in themselves...
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Why are you guys even debating this?! I though you thought it was stupid. And if you'd read that Tetrapod Zoology post, you'd realize that Darren Naish feels that way too.
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omg i think this is the smartest thing in the universe how dare you insult this great idea you don't know me you're not my real dad
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omg i think this is the smartest thing in the universe how dare you insult this great idea you don't know me you're not my real dad
I came here to tell everyone to get back on topic but I couldn't help but laugh at this.
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Make me chuckle too. So is this even possible, could you make a otter photosyntheses?
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Yes, of course. Though, it would be difficult, since you would need a large supply of living tissue with Chloroplasts getting sunlight. so either a living epidermis or a transpararent epidermis with photosynthesis occuring in the hypodermis. In either case you would need to remove the fur, so the aquatic life-style or any cold environment would be gone.

Then you would need other changes to it's behavior, like less moving (not hard, not looking for food to eat or places to take a dump as often), but would also need to slow down any other biological functions. So, slower heart beat, less action from any other organ. Probably shrink the brain down and lower the standard body temp a good ten degrees or so to conserve even more energy.

From there, you have to deal with growth, which would occur differently now with a lower body temperature and so much energy conservation, plus, except mouthfuls of dirt, not much consumpton going on. With nutrients, vitamins, and minerals, being harder to digest it now should grow slower, since it would be nearly impossible to get the same amount out of dirt it would normal food, so take longer to grow, but may live longer as a result.

This is just a few thoughts, maybe the fur could bne used for photosynthesis or something, but this sounds about like how I would build in. Now here's the real question: Would you still recognize it as even being close to an otter?
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i'm sure you could, there are plenty of invertebrates that survive on photosynthesis (most a symbiotic relationship, one sea slug actually has chlorophyll in it's cells) so making a photosynthetic otter doesn't seem too difficult...
but then you have to consider that an otter doesn't maintain its skin, it sheds the cells all the time, so you would have to have specialized portions that don't shed, then you have to consider how much energy the otter uses and that it's a fairly large animal so it would probably need a lot of these lobes... and you'd end up with something that looks like a fleshy pile of oak leaves running around.
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Not worth the bother. It won't really be a otter, more a bag of skin. Best to do the humane thing instead.

Death to Otters!!!
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