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Vegan idiots are idiots
Topic Started: Sep 4 2009, 05:17 PM (1,361 Views)
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http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2009/08/predatory_animals_are_bad.php

Frankly this is downright stupid. That there are people out there capable of putting all life on earth in danger just because its "wrong" for animals to feed on each other is ultimately repulsive; nature doesn't work according to our weak, stupid concepts of justice that we call morality. Besides, do plants deserve so much to die that all animals should be herbivores?

Frankly, I absolutely hate vegans. Go to hell you idiotic cow primates!
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Wow, end suffering by wiping out carnivores. Don't worry about the problems caused by overpopulation.

Nature works. Be happy it does. Shut up. Smile. Walk away.
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That's up there with Communism for very stupid ways to solve non-problems.

And not all vegans are insane. My girlfriend is not, though she also eats blocks of mouldy milk which people claim tastes good called "cheese" and salmon.
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First of all, there's no such thing as suffering. What you consider to be suffering is something that another organism considers necessary; it's all subjective, depending on your perspective. With no predators, herbivores would overpopulate and starve, possibly even eat so much plant life that the atmosphere cannot be replenished with oxygen, meaning everything, predator, prey, or plant would die.

Secondly the majority of vegans and vegetarians don't believe that eating meat is wrong, them simply choose not to. Just because you don't believe in eating animals doesn't necessarily mean you believe that eating animals is wrong.

And thirdly, do plants not get a say in this? They're alive too. And an herbivore is just a predator that hunts plants. PLANTS ARE THE ONLY GENTLE THING ON THIS PLANET, THEY DON'T HARM ANYTHING AND MAKE THEIR OWN FOOD. PLANTS DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING!

If they get to kill all the predators I get to kill all the herbivores. Besides, we're predators ourselves; if the lions have to die so do we.
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Yeah, only fanatical vegetarians are idiotic. But those who aren't are usually very friendly people.

But I've read this post, and frankly, such an idea isn't even practical. An ecology with more herbivores eating plants than plants are growing is a very unstable one, and ecological collapse will ensue. Why do humans want to twist nature to fit their morals? I know a frog eating a mouse may not be very pleasing to watch to most people (although both animals are cute in my opinion), but guess what, it's nature in the works!

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We're tired of being eaten by animals. WE'RE TIRED OF IT!!! We're tired of feeling the excruciating pain of a caterpillar eating us alive! We're tired of having our roots pulled out and eaten! Even though we grow parts meant to be eaten, we STILL have animals eating our leaves! We're tired of being stomped on! We're tired of being cut down! And as Venus flytraps, WE'RE TIRED OF BEING TIRED BECAUSE STUPID HUMANS THINK IT'S FUNNY TO STICK THEIR DAMN FINGERS INTO OUR TRAPS THAT WE USE TO EAT THEM BASTARDLY CREATURES!!!!! WE HATE ANIMALS AND WANT THEM EXTINCT OR BE ABLE TO PHOTOSYNTHESIZE LIKE US!!!! Oh wait we forgot, without animals, we wouldn't get nitrates in this poor friggin' soil, nor be able to propagate our DNA. Crap...
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No you guys! We don't need those damned animals to be pollinated! We're better than that, follow our lead and use wind, sure it may not seem as efficient but it will remove the animals death grip on our lives and just look at us grass, we're everywhere! as for nitrates let us turn to the other heterotrophic kingdom, the Fungi...
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Plants are evil too you stupid people. Plants have immune systems! They Murder billions of defenceless bacteria!

There is only one way to get rid of suffering once and for all. Kill everything in the universe.
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True-ish. That may be true but it's no reason humans should give up the dream of immortality. Dicking about with nature is only going to damage it.
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actually there are plants and animals who do not die from age.

but i think the way they do it is something humans would not be very fond of doing...
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What do they do then.

I wonder how many people take this guy seriously.

And why aren't I philosopher? I'm smarter than him.
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And I think you have to be high to be a philosopher, I assume, based on this guy being taken seriously.
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you're not a philosopher because you chose not to take that path in life? It is possible that you are one without realizing it.
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Plants actually are inate murders who kill other plants and many herbivores; some antilopes in captivity die because of the defense system of acacia trees, for example
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You're right, we'll have to kill all the poisonous plants and prickly cacti. In fact, let's just kill all the plants too. Fungi are gentle and can just as easily survive without everything else.
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