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| The Moment We've All Been Waiting For!; Finally, something to kill PETA | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 3 2009, 04:28 PM (805 Views) | |
| lamna | Sep 4 2009, 11:09 AM Post #16 |
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You can't have something healthy and that tastes good. That's like a perpetual motion machine, it's just impossible. What do you mean the animals would escape when being slaughtered? Animals now don't do that. And I have said before you can't introduce those kinds of drugs into things people will eat. What you can do is kill them by with hypoxia. A couple of years back I remember seeing an Episode of the BBC Science program Horizon. They were looked at execution about how humane the current methods are (not very), and how they could be improved. It wasn't about weather it was right or wrong but how to do it best. Here is a clip from the program. I'll try and find the part when they show an experiment with pigs. Edited by lamna, Sep 4 2009, 11:10 AM.
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| Ànraich | Sep 4 2009, 12:24 PM Post #17 |
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L'évolution Spéculative est moi
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We treat them differently than wild animals because they're different than wild animals. We've ruined them with the thousands of years of artificial selection we've put them through. We changed their evolution, the only thing they're good for now is being bred, slaughtered, and eaten. What do you think happens to them if we start just growing the meat in a lab or factory somewhere? Temporary (by the way, why is your name Temporary, Rodge? Is there something wrong with your other account? PM me if that's the case) is right; if we start just making the meat, we no longer have a need to take care of the cattle. They're not like pigs, they can't revert to a feral state because they no longer have a feral state. Without us to take care of them, they'll go extinct. Nobody will care, nobody will protect them; why spend money on an animal that modern science has made totally worthless to both mankind and nature? Livestock are an abomination, we made them totally unable to survive on their own. They might last a few hundred years, but their numbers will slowly dwindle to nothing. Through breeding them to be more docile and calm we've taken away their instincts. They can't migrate to new pastures, they can't defend themselves, they may not even be able to breed on their own (as most are made pregnant through artificial insemination). We can't just act on our hearts and anthropomorphism. What appears to be morally righteous may not be so; the choice is between "cruelty" and extinction. If anything it's our moral duty to not allow artificially grown meat to replace livestock. Besides, you don't really think the cattle have no idea what their purpose is, do you? They're social herbivores, it's not like they don't notice members of their herd being led into a slaughterhouse and never coming back. They may not be intelligent, but they're clever enough to know that they're only born to be killed. Animals have no fear of death or suffering, that's a natural part of life to them. Only humans, with our overly complicated philosophical views regarding life, fear death and suffering; everything else is aware of its place in the food chain. Edited by Ànraich, Sep 4 2009, 12:26 PM.
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| lamna | Sep 4 2009, 05:38 PM Post #18 |
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They won't go extinct. People today love the past and those in the future will too. Farming will just become a hobby. Horses are thriving today and will continue to do so. I think I read, somewhere there are more horses now than there ever were before the invention of the automobile. I went for my work experience on a farm that is there for education and something of a living museum. Steam Trains are obsolete, but they are still around and very popular tourist attractions. |
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| Ànraich | Sep 4 2009, 06:35 PM Post #19 |
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There are still horses because there is still a demand for horses. If you can simply grow steaks then it follows that the whole expensive process of raising and caring for cattle can be cut out of the whole process. So either all the cattle would be slaughtered or simply released into the wild, where they would most likely dwindle in number and die out. I imagine I probably exaggerated a bit when I said they would become extinct, as India has lots of cattle that they don't slaughter yet care for. But eventually India would probably be the only place you would see large numbers cattle, with a few small herds on farms. Edited by Ànraich, Sep 4 2009, 06:36 PM.
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| lamna | Sep 5 2009, 03:25 AM Post #20 |
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They would not all be killed at once, just like my steam train example. It will take a while for them to be replaced. People like farm animals, simple as. They are going to be around for some time to come. |
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