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Diaries of a Speculative Biologist
Topic Started: Jul 28 2009, 11:47 PM (2,656 Views)
Canis Lupis
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Not all dictators were horrible. Unfortunately for spambots, I am.

I'm just wondering: what is everyone's view on desert hopper-like snails? By that, I mean:
  • water-tight skin
  • a pseudo-skeleton (for support)
  • a beak derived from the radula
  • efficient limb(s) (for locomotion). By that, I mean, they could either: evolve the molluscan foot to be more efficient at slithering along the ground (like snakes), evolve the molluscan foot into a single hopping structure (like the desert-hopper), or evolve extensions of the pseudo-skeleton's "ribs" to form two or more legs (like the saltokochlids (from TFIB) who only have two)
  • a more advanced brain to coordinate their more advanced movement
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Livyatan


Man's best friend - http://speculative-biology-diaries.blogspot.com/2009/08/mans-best-friend.html

The dog article I had promised.
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ATEK Azul
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The tiny terror idea was one that I had also thought up lol.

I can also see the whale Dogs and bone crusher Dogs.

Another neat idea is combinations of these ideas I like the idea of huge packs of tiny bone crushing terrors lole.

As for north america having dog packs, I think the dogs and wolves that occupie the pack hunting niche will eventually breed and mix into their own type of animals.
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I don't think that toy dogs will make it into the future without people around.
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Aug 10 2009, 02:41 AM
I don't think that toy dogs will make it into the future without people around.
Its not that they are descended specifically from toy dogs, they are just of miniature size.
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Yeah they may not be our toy dogs but they would be small and ferocius I think they would make good scavengers.
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I'm going to pin this thread if you don't mind, Will and Parasky.
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I don't. And sorry about no recent articles. School has become my slave master.
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I've had a concept for a future canine for a while. Imagine an Irish Wolfhound, bred with Siberian Husky, resulting in gigantisim in the offspring. Now imagine a few of these individuals escaping into the Alaskan wilderness, and breeding with feral wolfpacks. The result? Horse-sized canines with enormous snowshoe feet, adapted to chasing down high-speed prey for extended periods over snowy terrain, completely replacing the local wolf population.
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Terrence of Chance
Feb 28 2010, 05:14 PM
I've had a concept for a future canine for a while. Imagine an Irish Wolfhound, bred with Siberian Husky, resulting in gigantisim in the offspring. Now imagine a few of these individuals escaping into the Alaskan wilderness, and breeding with feral wolfpacks. The result? Horse-sized canines with enormous snowshoe feet, adapted to chasing down high-speed prey for extended periods over snowy terrain, completely replacing the local wolf population.
cool idea, but what would sustain it? big mammals need a lot of food and also living in a pack would mean that they would have to share, which means they would have to make a lot of kills in order to keep everybody feed.
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Terrence of Chance
Feb 28 2010, 05:14 PM
I've had a concept for a future canine for a while. Imagine an Irish Wolfhound, bred with Siberian Husky, resulting in gigantisim in the offspring. Now imagine a few of these individuals escaping into the Alaskan wilderness, and breeding with feral wolfpacks. The result? Horse-sized canines with enormous snowshoe feet, adapted to chasing down high-speed prey for extended periods over snowy terrain, completely replacing the local wolf population.
What would create such a large size? Can you explain it to me?
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Aug 9 2009, 05:43 PM
I'm just wondering: what is everyone's view on desert hopper-like snails? By that, I mean:
  • water-tight skin
  • a pseudo-skeleton (for support)
  • a beak derived from the radula
  • efficient limb(s) (for locomotion). By that, I mean, they could either: evolve the molluscan foot to be more efficient at slithering along the ground (like snakes), evolve the molluscan foot into a single hopping structure (like the desert-hopper), or evolve extensions of the pseudo-skeleton's "ribs" to form two or more legs (like the saltokochlids (from TFIB) who only have two)
  • a more advanced brain to coordinate their more advanced movement
This sounds like a great idea. What I'm curious about is - what would trigger such a direction in their evolution?
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Water-tight skin - maybe from adapting to arid environments.
Pseudo-skeleton- the snail could internalize parts of it's shell for support
The hopping structure - might evolve from the hind end of the foot used to leap off branches or something for a quick escape from predators
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Dec 13 2012, 10:07 PM
Pseudo-skeleton- the snail could internalize parts of it's shell for support
The hopping structure - might evolve from the hind end of the foot used to leap off branches or something for a quick escape from predators


I can see the 'how'. I was curious about the 'why' part :D.
Edited by Orionite, Dec 14 2012, 07:20 PM.
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Hmm. Parts of the shell could internalize in large species of snail that need that extra support.
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