Diaries of a Speculative Biologist

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Diaries of a Speculative Biologist
Topic Started: Jul 28 2009, 11:47 PM (2,210 Views)
Canis Lupis	Aug 9 2009, 05:43 PM Post #46
I'm watching you. Posts: 5,540 Group: Global Mods Member #95 Joined: Oct 16, 2008 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Nationality: United States Favorite Quote: "A speccer once tried to tell me I was wrong. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti."	I'm just wondering: what is everyone's view on desert hopper-like snails? By that, I mean: water-tight skin a pseudo-skeleton (for support) a beak derived from the radula efficient limb(s) (for locomotion). By that, I mean, they could either: evolve the molluscan foot to be more efficient at slithering along the ground (like snakes), evolve the molluscan foot into a single hopping structure (like the desert-hopper), or evolve extensions of the pseudo-skeleton's "ribs" to form two or more legs (like the saltokochlids (from TFIB) who only have two) a more advanced brain to coordinate their more advanced movement



Livyatan	Aug 9 2009, 05:49 PM Post #47
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	Man's best friend - http://speculative-biology-diaries.blogspot.com/2009/08/mans-best-friend.html The dog article I had promised.



ATEK Azul	Aug 9 2009, 06:45 PM Post #48
Transhuman Posts: 2,411 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: Sep 20, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: usa	The tiny terror idea was one that I had also thought up lol. I can also see the whale Dogs and bone crusher Dogs. Another neat idea is combinations of these ideas I like the idea of huge packs of tiny bone crushing terrors lole. As for north america having dog packs, I think the dogs and wolves that occupie the pack hunting niche will eventually breed and mix into their own type of animals.



The Dodo	Aug 10 2009, 02:41 AM Post #49
Prime Specimen Posts: 1,206 Group: Members Member #189 Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Alternative Evolution Nationality: Australian	I don't think that toy dogs will make it into the future without people around.



Livyatan	Aug 10 2009, 03:24 PM Post #50
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	The Dodo Aug 10 2009, 02:41 AM I don't think that toy dogs will make it into the future without people around. Its not that they are descended specifically from toy dogs, they are just of miniature size.



ATEK Azul	Aug 10 2009, 05:41 PM Post #51
Transhuman Posts: 2,411 Group: Members Member #81 Joined: Sep 20, 2008 Gender: Private Nationality: usa	Yeah they may not be our toy dogs but they would be small and ferocius I think they would make good scavengers.



Giant Blue Anteater	Aug 24 2009, 01:39 PM Post #52
Ich bin ein Großer Blau Ameisenbär! Posts: 1,097 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: May 30, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: American Favorite Quote: "...it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin	I'm going to pin this thread if you don't mind, Will and Parasky.



Livyatan	Aug 24 2009, 05:35 PM Post #53
Posts: 1,998 Group: Admins Member #1 Joined: May 24, 2008 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Future Evolution Favorite Quote: "Knowledge never springs from faith. It springs from doubt." - Humayun Azad Nationality: American	I don't. And sorry about no recent articles. School has become my slave master.



Terrence of Chance	Feb 28 2010, 05:14 PM Post #54
Infant Posts: 83 Group: Members Member #151 Joined: Mar 13, 2009 Gender: Male Favorite Quote: We'll cross that bridge once we burn it.	I've had a concept for a future canine for a while. Imagine an Irish Wolfhound, bred with Siberian Husky, resulting in gigantisim in the offspring. Now imagine a few of these individuals escaping into the Alaskan wilderness, and breeding with feral wolfpacks. The result? Horse-sized canines with enormous snowshoe feet, adapted to chasing down high-speed prey for extended periods over snowy terrain, completely replacing the local wolf population.



truteal	Mar 25 2010, 03:37 AM Post #55
forum bigfoot Posts: 710 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: Jun 8, 2008 Gender: Male Nationality: the great southern land Favorite Quote: "there's something that's called "adult animation" and it usually means it appeals to adolensent, teenage boys and that's not really adult in my view" George Griffin	Terrence of Chance Feb 28 2010, 05:14 PM I've had a concept for a future canine for a while. Imagine an Irish Wolfhound, bred with Siberian Husky, resulting in gigantisim in the offspring. Now imagine a few of these individuals escaping into the Alaskan wilderness, and breeding with feral wolfpacks. The result? Horse-sized canines with enormous snowshoe feet, adapted to chasing down high-speed prey for extended periods over snowy terrain, completely replacing the local wolf population. cool idea, but what would sustain it? big mammals need a lot of food and also living in a pack would mean that they would have to share, which means they would have to make a lot of kills in order to keep everybody feed.



Orionite	Dec 13 2012, 05:42 PM Post #56
Primate Thinker Posts: 474 Group: Members Member #306 Joined: Apr 27, 2010 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Macedonian	Terrence of Chance Feb 28 2010, 05:14 PM I've had a concept for a future canine for a while. Imagine an Irish Wolfhound, bred with Siberian Husky, resulting in gigantisim in the offspring. Now imagine a few of these individuals escaping into the Alaskan wilderness, and breeding with feral wolfpacks. The result? Horse-sized canines with enormous snowshoe feet, adapted to chasing down high-speed prey for extended periods over snowy terrain, completely replacing the local wolf population. What would create such a large size? Can you explain it to me?



Orionite	Dec 13 2012, 05:45 PM Post #57
Primate Thinker Posts: 474 Group: Members Member #306 Joined: Apr 27, 2010 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Macedonian	Canis Lupis Aug 9 2009, 05:43 PM I'm just wondering: what is everyone's view on desert hopper-like snails? By that, I mean: water-tight skin a pseudo-skeleton (for support) a beak derived from the radula efficient limb(s) (for locomotion). By that, I mean, they could either: evolve the molluscan foot to be more efficient at slithering along the ground (like snakes), evolve the molluscan foot into a single hopping structure (like the desert-hopper), or evolve extensions of the pseudo-skeleton's "ribs" to form two or more legs (like the saltokochlids (from TFIB) who only have two) a more advanced brain to coordinate their more advanced movement This sounds like a great idea. What I'm curious about is - what would trigger such a direction in their evolution?



Arachnus	Dec 13 2012, 10:07 PM Post #58
Adult Posts: 834 Group: Members Member #701 Joined: Jan 29, 2012 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Water-tight skin - maybe from adapting to arid environments. Pseudo-skeleton- the snail could internalize parts of it's shell for support The hopping structure - might evolve from the hind end of the foot used to leap off branches or something for a quick escape from predators



Orionite	Dec 14 2012, 07:20 PM Post #59
Primate Thinker Posts: 474 Group: Members Member #306 Joined: Apr 27, 2010 Gender: Male Area of expertise: Xenobiology Nationality: Macedonian	Arachnus Dec 13 2012, 10:07 PM Pseudo-skeleton- the snail could internalize parts of it's shell for support The hopping structure - might evolve from the hind end of the foot used to leap off branches or something for a quick escape from predators I can see the 'how'. I was curious about the 'why' part :D. Edited by Orionite, Dec 14 2012, 07:20 PM.



Arachnus	Dec 14 2012, 07:24 PM Post #60
Adult Posts: 834 Group: Members Member #701 Joined: Jan 29, 2012 Area of expertise: Xenobiology	Hmm. Parts of the shell could internalize in large species of snail that need that extra support.



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