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How and when did we first begin to domesticate...
Topic Started: Jun 26 2009, 02:48 PM (389 Views)
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-Horses
-Camels
-Donkeys
-Dogs
-Cats
-Pigs

And have horses and camels and donkeys gone through any genetic modifications where they greatly differ from their ancestors through years of selective breeding ala cats descended from wildcats and dogs descended from wolves and pigs descended from wild boars?

Or do they look pretty much the same after thousands of years?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestication#Approximate_dates_and_locations_of_original_domestication

Of course, original horses had upright manes, not many breeds have those. And they have been modified into fine boned Arabs, massively powerful Draft horses, and tiny hardly ponies.
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Some new research done by people now say that horses were originally domesticated and bred for milk. I would choose a horse back then over a cow, because those ancient horses were just weak compared to a cow.
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Wild horses are certainly not weak. I have met so called domestic horses I would not want to mess with.
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Weak's not really the right word. Just back in the Stone Age a wild horse was no match to a bull.
Edited by Cynovolans, Jun 26 2009, 04:03 PM.
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Well of course. A bull is made to fight and ram while a horse is made to run. That's like saying cotton armor is no match for a bullet.
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Both are cursorial, meaning that both Bos and Equus are essecially adapted to running, though bovids are more robust and come with horns included, which means that they are obviously stronger than a horse. In fact, once horses disappeared from North America the bison increased in numbers, while once mustangs were introduced the bison, already in decline due to overhunting, became pratically extinct and said situation continues nowdays. Because competition between equines and bisons is intense as the later is basically a bovid's answer to a wild horse
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