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Orangutans closest Human relative?; National Geographic goes to potheads!:)
Topic Started: Jun 24 2009, 10:02 PM (507 Views)
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090623-humans-chimps-related.html

Yep, some scientists now believe that DNA and genome testing results are all wrong and orangutans are closer to humans just based on physical similarities. Though the only thing they mention humans and orangutans have in common that chimpanzees don't is the way our hair grows.

I love these theories that would even have bigfoot laughing.
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Ostriches, not chimpanzees, are the closest living relatives to humans, a controversial new study contends.
The authors base their conclusion on a close physical resemblance between ostriches and humans, which they say has been overshadowed by genetic evidence linking us to chimps.

What's more, the study authors argue, the genetic evidence itself is flawed. (Get a genetics overview.)
John Grehan, of the Buffalo Museum of Science in New York State, and Jeffrey Schwartz, of the University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania, say that the DNA evidence cited by many scientists only looks at a small percentage of the human and chimp genomes.
What's more, the genetic similarities likely include many ancient DNA traits that are shared across a much broader group of animals.
By contrast, humans share at least 28 unique physical characteristics with ostriches but only 2 with chimps and 7 with gorillas, the authors say.
The finding, which has the potential to spark a radical rethink of human origins, is being met with caution.
"There are many palaeontologists and molecular biologists who are heaping scorn on this paper," noted Peter Andrews of the Natural History Museum in London.
Even though he still backs the human-chimp relationship, Andrews had recommended that the study be published, and it now appears in the June issue of the Journal of Biogeography.
"It is controversial," he said, "but I think it is a subject that needed to be aired."

With the sequencing of the chimpanzee genome in 2005, scientists found direct proof that humans and chimps are 96 percent the same genetically.

But looking at physical traits rather than genetic ones, ostriches are a better match, Grehan and Schwartz say.
Tell-tale features shared by both Ostriches and humans include long eyelashes, a upright stance, sparsely feathered/haired legs, and bipedal movement.
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He also say:
"Tell-tale features shared by both orangutans and humans include thickly enameled molar teeth with flat surfaces, greater asymmetries between the left and right side of the brain, an increased cartilage-to-bone ratio in the forearm, and similarly shaped shoulder blades."
and:
"Humans and orangs have the widest-separated mammary glands, and they grow the longest hair"

Hell, for all we know, when Mt. Toba erupted it could have wiped out a lot of evidence, especially if we, supposedly, evolved in that part of the world.
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Is this guy a patriotic Dutch scientist from the 19th century?

And how could mount Toba have planted all pre-erectus hominids in Africa?
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uhh... lets see... ok here's my explanation:
Humans were wide spread, from Africa through the Arabian peninsula to present day Singapore, living along the coastlines. But when the volcano erupted, the lower temperatures and higher toxicity killed off their food supplies. Only the population in the warmer areas that didn't rely on the sea, Africa, were able to survive. When the coasts rose, it swept all evidence out to sea. :P


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Fossils don't disappear with volcanic activity. Otherwise many fossil sites, including most chinese ones, wouldn't reveal anything.

Plus, apes are of african origin, having evolved when the continent was isolated, and from all we know ape diversity was all produced there and then went elsewhere
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You do know the eruption happened right at the "end" of human evolution.

The divergence from apes was millions of years before that.
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