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| The Biology and Culture of the Olfacteffor | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 15 2009, 04:22 PM (1,076 Views) | |
| Giant Blue Anteater | Jun 15 2009, 04:22 PM Post #1 |
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I have spent so much time and effort on this piece that it gave Flash a headache. I'm quite proud of this piece, and I want suggestions and ideas.![]()
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| Empyreon | Jun 15 2009, 06:29 PM Post #2 |
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I assume, then, that Olfacteffors use their proboscis to "hear" these pheromonal languages as well? Or did I miss what they actually use? |
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| Giant Blue Anteater | Jun 15 2009, 06:56 PM Post #3 |
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Their proboscis can only taste. To smell pheromone 'speech', they have a vertical slit on their face. |
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| Empyreon | Jun 15 2009, 07:44 PM Post #4 |
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Interesting. So, since smell and taste are so closely connected on Earth (with humans at least), is the case the same with Olfacteffors? If "speech" is received through this slit, and both smell and taste is basically a chemoreception, then is there some inadvertent "noise" picked up through eating? Perhaps a very tasty meal is the equivalent of listening to music or looking at art? Do different spices mean different things? Or are smell and taste disassociated with these guys? If so, how? |
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| Sliver Slave | Jun 15 2009, 08:26 PM Post #5 |
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I'm going back to basics.
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How does communication work during a strong wind? How developed is their sense of hearing? (For hearing other things, like danger). |
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| Oceaniis | Jun 16 2009, 02:08 AM Post #6 |
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I would do the same question about the wind lol Another question is, what the speed of the speech? how many time take to one individual make a question an revived the answer? By the way just few mammal orders have hydraulic erection, as I remember, primates, Perissodactyls (horses, rhinos, tapirs) have, Carnivores, Chiropters (bats) have the bacullum and Artiodactyls(cows giraffes, hippos, etc), Cetaceans have retractile muscles, Sirenies (manatees ) and elephants think that are muscular too but not sure
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| Spinosaurus Rex | Jun 16 2009, 06:08 AM Post #7 |
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Do they have a "normal" sense of hearing? If so, how developed is it? Unique creature, indeed. The forthcoming "Language" section will be fun. Will our screens turn into digital Scratch n'Sniffs? |
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| Giant Blue Anteater | Jun 16 2009, 04:20 PM Post #8 |
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Elephants do have flexible penises as a matter of fact. Also, thanks for letting me know. About the wind thing, I have decided that using pheromones as the primary means of communication may not work after a discussion with Rayn Hammer on DeviantART becuase he says that for simple messages, it could work, but for complex 'speech', it is difficult, because the same messages could be floating in air and get mixed with others. So my solution is going to be that they primarily communicate via gestures, but secondarily communicate via pheromones to convey simple messages. Is that better? |
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| Ànraich | Jun 29 2009, 04:16 PM Post #9 |
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L'évolution Spéculative est moi
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The use of pheromones for communication is an interesting idea. They must be great scientists and philosophers, as they could build forums in which all the pheromones become trapped and all the speech can be heard by everyone. And it doesn't necessarily have to become mingled with all the other pheromones. They could have a smaller second brain devoted entirely to separating the pheromones out into their originally intended form, like filtering a radio signal out of white noise. But your best bet would be to not have the pheromone language be their primary means of communication. |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| Spinosaurus Rex | Jun 29 2009, 04:41 PM Post #10 |
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^Agreed. Do the Olfacteffors have a "normal" sense of hearing? |
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| Giant Blue Anteater | Jul 19 2009, 12:08 AM Post #11 |
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I have a better idea for a main method of communication. How about modified scales that act as a xylophone? The hammer scale hits the anvil scale, thus creating noise. These are arranged in a mane. Their language could go like "Clickity click!", and combined with unique pheromones, allows for a totally unique language. Is this better, or is there still problems? A redesign shall follow up soon. |
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| Ànraich | Jul 19 2009, 05:18 PM Post #12 |
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I like that one too, like a whole language based on "music." Speaking of which in that case their music would be very interesting, with the lyrics and music indistinguishable from each other. I'm not even sure we can comprehend what that means. |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| Empyreon | Jul 19 2009, 09:25 PM Post #13 |
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I like it. Xylophone-like language is certainly distinct enough, and if properly amplified it can be broadcast over great distances. Pheromonal broadcast would provide an excellent supplement, ideal for expressing overall emotions or overtones. Imagine: "Clickity-clakittle" = "What are you doing here?" and differing aromas could signify anything from, "Oh, what a pleasant surprise," to, "I'm very upset, to the point of violence!" I think that "lyrics" and accompanying music would actually be distinguishable enough, even to human ears; at least as easy to isolate as a xylophone in an orchestra. A sufficiently trained ear can pick it out, and perhaps even readily understand the lyrical meaning. My question is how is the olfactory component of speech transmitted in song? Do the musical tones suggest or substitute cues for specific smells? |
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| Ànraich | Jul 20 2009, 01:09 PM Post #14 |
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Olfactic symphonies preformed by an olfacestra (like olfactory + orchestra). I bet incense and forms of smoking would be very popular on that planet, given their increased awareness of scents. |
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We should all aspire to die surrounded by our dearest friends. Just like Julius Caesar. "The Lord Universe said: 'The same fate I have given to all things from stones to stars, that one day they shall become naught but memories aloft upon the winds of time. From dust all was born, and to dust all shall return.' He then looked upon His greatest creation, life, and pitied them, for unlike stars and stones they would soon learn of this fate and despair in the futility of their own existence. And so the Lord Universe decided to give life two gifts to save them from this despair. The first of these gifts was the soul, that life might more readily accept their fate, and the second was fear, that they might in time learn to avoid it altogether." - Excerpt from a Chanagwan creation myth, Legends and Folklore of the Planet Ghar, collected and published by Yieju Bai'an, explorer from the Celestial Commonwealth of Qonming Tree That Owns Itself
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| Empyreon | Jul 20 2009, 03:30 PM Post #15 |
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Or their ability to mask other odors. If you wish to conceal inadvertent emanations, the best way to do it would be with some sort of artificial perfume. |
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