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Future creatures of Primeval; Your opinion
Topic Started: May 17 2009, 08:06 AM (32,014 Views)
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Fungus can control insects, but honestly its impossible they control their prey after EATING their flesh, 'cos the skeleton doesn't mopve. And stupid mushrooms can't replace muscles and systems
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The Mer reminded me of baboons most, which do beach comb in South Africa.

I did not like seeing the future. As we have learn from Life After People, pretty much everything is gone after a thousand years.

However the predator and the insects unlikely form and fast evolution could be because Cutter makes them, and the weird time loop means he makes them in their own image.

I can't get my head round the way time travel works. Why do they panic about getting the animals back? The present seems to be fixed. The only time the world changed was when Cutter changed the past and came back.
It makes more sense if you assume there are an infinite number of possibilities rather than one reality, so Cutter never destroyed the world of the first season, he just left it.
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The Mer reminded me of baboons most, which do beach comb in South Africa.

I did not like seeing the future. As we have learn from Life After People, pretty much everything is gone after a thousand years.

However the predator and the insects unlikely form and fast evolution could be because Cutter makes them, and the weird time loop means he makes them in their own image.

I can't get my head round the way time travel works. Why do they panic about getting the animals back? The present seems to be fixed. The only time the world changed was when Cutter changed the past and came back.
It makes more sense if you assume there are an infinite number of possibilities rather than one reality, so Cutter never destroyed the world of the first season, he just left it.
Primeval can't seem to decide if it takes place in a fixed timeline, or a multi-lined one. I think it either needs to Dr. Who it* or just settle on one or the other. I'm fine with time travel, they're just a bit sloppy with theirs. Also, this makes me realize that I'm way too huge of a sci-fi nerd when the first thing that comes to mind is the Timey-Wimey Ball

*See - The Timey-Wimey Ball of Time...stuff....
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Ahhh...Timey-Wimeyness. Lovely

An interesting belief in time travel I heard is from the Darren Shan saga, which sas if you change something in history, time accounts for it. For instance, if you killed Hitler, history would make someone who took his place, and di hat he did.
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The anomalies bend space in time, so in the Primeval universe, the future creatures may be from anywhere, and any-when in the universe. The creatures may not even have originated from the future. They may have originated (hypothetically- too many problems with this, I know.) from Mars in the terran year 9,000,000 BC, for all we know. Also, I think that the Camo Creature might have also evolved from the bat- being a distant relative of the Future Predator, perhaps.

Also, we could not easily destroy a population of Future Predators, even with firearms. They have demonstrated extreme intelligence and cunning, which, combined with their super-human capabilities, could have given them the final age. They could have replaced humans by coming through the anomaly.

We must consider the laws of this fictional universe.
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The giant beetles fighting the future predators was awesome.
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I dunno. The reason WHY humans are so damn scary is because we're not terribly intelligent or powerful, but because we look at everything and go "Find a way to kill it Y/N?"

Granted, I can't help but think of the raptor episode of primeval, because all I remember is "RAPTORS LOVE GUMBALLS"
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The future predator is allright, the likeness to modern bats is visible and I like the design. The Mer are acceptable, given enough time a primate could evolve in a similar fashion much like seals.

BUT

The aye-aye camoflage thing doesn't seem to know what it is... in fact it looks like the future predator but with an aye-aye head on it. As for the big insect... well it's a big insect and thus (due to allometry) a suffocating one!
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Just throw the Doctor at it anything and it will make sense.

If the History holes can open on Mars, they can open in the void of space. Besides when they did their magic super fast genetic analysis on the Predator it they said it was a weird bat.

And we could destroy the future predators. We have billions of people, and our technology could easily wipe out something that big. Remember.

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I forget most of the raptor episode. Was that the one where they stole the slipping over sweets thing from Godzilla? They often seem to do ideas that have already been done.

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The future predator is allright, the likeness to modern bats is visible and I like the design


The very own idea that bats can become flightless is not devoid of debate; there's really not a lot of chances for bats as well know them to loose their wings, as either other mammals or sauropsids (including birds) tend to occupy all availiable niches before bats can. In New Zealand, for example, you have wrens as insectivore analogues, in spite of the fact short tailed bats, while very terrestrial, already achieved that form during the Miocene of Australia, so they are really just living fossils and not the answer that bats gave to the lack of other land mammals.

However, some say that the enigmatic fossil mammal of New Zealand might be a flightless bat, so the idea of a flightless chiropteran can't be ruled out. But still, the future predator is too much
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What enigamtic fossil mammal?
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enigmatic fossil mammal sounds like anything you find that could be a mammal. I dunno, though...while flightless bats COULD develop, it's just that there's so many MORE creatures that are already flightless to take it's place, that would be far more likely ancestors. The competition on land is hella fierce. Especially for big animals.

I'm just starting to formulate my own theory that most of the future animals are genetically engineered. It makes my head hurt less that way.

By the way, that reminds me, anybody here read "Your Inner Fish"? Excellent book. :D You would all love it.
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What enigamtic fossil mammal?
Look for SB Mammal. Usually its claimed it is a basal mammal (and that might be true), but suggestions that it is actually a flightless bat have also occured
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Well the reason Helen attacks the Arc is because she thinks Cutter will create the predetoers.
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i think that the future predator is possible from a bat but other creatures could have easily the bat as a ancestor.

when does helen attack the ark?

as for the mer they could be possible, but the camo creature and insect are improbable.
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