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| Topic Started: Feb 23 2009, 07:28 PM (1,522 Views) | |
| ATEK Azul | Feb 23 2009, 07:28 PM Post #1 |
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alright i am making this a project for anybody too post in it is not a serius project more like a world based on and for inspiring other peoples creativity. the point of this project is too make a really wierd and extreme alien world unlike earth. it will be made from the ideas of every body but the point is too make a world that can inspire every body else too make there own wierd worlds, you know get the creative juices flowing into a more weird and extreme section of the brain that is willing too make a risky world with stuff very different from us. the main ideas i have is a world made almost exclusively of radioactive materials. and has a large very thick and presurized atmosphere and a several mile think couting of ice made from methane, ethane, water, amonia and complex oxygen compunds. inbetween this and the ground/oceans is an atmosphere of simular compunds plus nitrogen, hydrogen, helium, and some other stuf including a lot of radioactive particuls which along with the tidal forces of its moons and the life forms/organicly produced gases keep the world warm enough on the inside for life. any more ideas for the planet should be suggested before we get too the life forms which hope fully will be awsome. all posts are welcome exept for poluting mockery posts (like lamna has been doing in my other topics) are great along wideas for your own worlds based on these concepts of wierdness and extremeness. |
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| Rodge the Linkbot | Mar 12 2009, 04:05 PM Post #16 |
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Well, I really didn't think much of it until a post somewhere else on the site, but, how about having life appear twice here? One based on Oxygen and one base on Carbon. That way they don't need respiration, they can feed on members of both groups to completely relace that need. Though, they may need a second digestive system. |
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| colddigger | Mar 13 2009, 11:47 AM Post #17 |
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I don't think breathing like that would be that simple... oxygen based life just means that the molecules use oxygen as a base, not that you can get pure oxygen from consuming them, maybe if you burned it first... just like carbon based life doesn't mean you get a clump of carbon after eating it, you have to burn it first...Also there would be an incredibly high birth/death rate, and lifeforms producing massive amounts of waste products... the idea is really good, but might need some more refining...
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| Rodge the Linkbot | Mar 13 2009, 02:16 PM Post #18 |
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I was thinking no respiration, just dual digesting to get all you need. And I was thinking we could use a series of chemical processes to extract the oxygen and carbon. |
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| ChumZar | Mar 13 2009, 06:32 PM Post #19 |
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Um, sorry folks but carbon would not be what oxygen got energy from. Oxygen based life would get energy from oxygen. The reason carbon based life uses oxygen is because oxygen likes to rip stuff apart, thus producing energy. |
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| zypher | Mar 13 2009, 11:19 PM Post #20 |
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and by going into atomacial detail, you guys have lost me... I shall check back when the topic returns to basic world and animal design... I'll let you guys decide how the animals function, and perhapse I could draw afew? |
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because there are an infinite number of alternate realities, withen them an infinite ammount of infinite things are possible... infinitly. two samples of my artwork http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/zaraquexon/img016-1.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/zaraquexon/img018.jpg <embed width="384" height="206" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" src="http://www.spore.com/flash/csa_widget.swf?userid=2263016807&username=zaraquex&host=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spore.com%2Fview%2Fuser-thumbnail" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="showall" name="latest-creatures" /></embed> | |
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| colddigger | Mar 14 2009, 01:04 AM Post #21 |
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lol, that too...maybe have it breath some kind of acid? ---------- okay monster designin' eh? how about a massive parachute lifeform that is kept afloat by hanging out over a giant air geyser, the geyser could be the result of radioactive deterioration, basically a meltdown of some sort i guess like how nuclear power plants work but not controlled, heating air that is sucked down into the planets crust and shot out. they live for as long as the geyser exists, which i have absolutely no idea about ... I guess having a constant rush of cold air pushed past it would slow the reaction, catching heat and neutrons and stuff... these parachute critters can be floating islands, floating translucent membranous islands...call'm ''Parachutes'' ... dunno what it'd feed on..There could be a 'flora' that gathers under the parachutes and gathers radioactive dust blown up from the geysers, the flora could specialize in using the energy from the fission as fuel, i imagine them kinda like tumbleweed, just gathering under the parachutes to stay in place and tumbling around due to being blown around by the hot air... the parachutes could feed on fission too, or maybe it could feed on these tumbleweeds... Edited by colddigger, Mar 14 2009, 01:06 AM.
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| Rodge the Linkbot | Mar 14 2009, 09:22 AM Post #22 |
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A Melanin based chemical reaction, perhaps? I do like the idea, an organism large enough to support a functioning ecosystem. I can sort of imagine a series of parasites feeding off of it, looking sort of like moss or fungi, maybe pale grass, getting fed on by larger life forms. But I don't think a nuclear reaction would do that. Maybe have these creatures hanging from the frozen 'roof' or somewhere inside it? Another thought would be creatures that feed of nutrients on the ceiling, spitting acids up and swishing a open 'hole'-mouth around to get the nutrients. Sort of like ancient fish. Another idea, away from the currents would be area where the water (Well, let's call it water for now....) doesn't move much. If we are using a melanin-based producers then here we could easily have large 'forests' of organisms growing. Tiny floating black producers that cling to each other, creating a sort of chian-mail like mesh that herbivores could feed on or small animals could live in, or massive producers made of a single giant sheets like a living book, the 'pages' creating more surface area for chemical reactions to gather energy. An idea I came up for a project I never finished, was to have the Producers evolve a long time before anything higher on the food chain. Since they have already evolved in ways to function without the animal-like life, they instead are in an evolutionary arms race trying to fight off the predation instead of evolving to work with it (For example, instead of flowers to help pollination, chemical-shoots and posioned leaves). Just an idea. |
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| colddigger | Mar 14 2009, 12:54 PM Post #23 |
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I'd like the idea that the ice cover would have lots of little holes in it from meteors and such, the occasional beam of light here and there, the atmosphere could be full of dormant spores that grow super fast when in light and the organisms compete to grow fast enough to produce spores before the hole in the ice heals up... |
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| ATEK Azul | Mar 15 2009, 10:26 PM Post #24 |
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these are truely amazing ideas and i am glad that this has turned into a project that does not need my constant posting since i can't much any more. also since this intrigues you people i just made a topic discussing old fashion rpgs and what people would play/want from a fictional evolution rpg so check out. i think maybe a hemoglobin based chemical reaction would be neat? instead of using light or heat or radiation it would use oxygen compounds too make food? |
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| colddigger | Mar 16 2009, 06:40 PM Post #25 |
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how about an autotroph that uses neutrinos to make sugars...or the equivalents of sugars... the planet is choc full of super heavy elements i don't see why not... |
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| Rodge the Linkbot | Mar 18 2009, 05:35 PM Post #26 |
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Here's a thought: Why not get rid of respiration altogether? As mentioned we use oxygen to rip apart molecules for other purposes, even though these organisms are using oxygen as the base of their DNA molecules why not have them use O for the same purpose. Eating would take care of all their problems. How does reproduction work on this world, usually? |
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| colddigger | Mar 18 2009, 06:00 PM Post #27 |
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respiration is, if I understand correctly, the way that our body removes gaseous waste from itself, so I'm not sure if we can rule it out without some vague, psuedoscientific explanation of how their cells work. Or sumtin like that... |
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| Rodge the Linkbot | Mar 19 2009, 04:11 PM Post #28 |
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Yes, it does do that as one function but gas release can be taken care in any number of ways, our bodies do it in multiple ways at once (Respiration, skin, and flatulence) (Pause to giggle that I said flatulence) now if we were to really think about organisms all across the planet do use different ones similar to each of those to different capacities. Besides, it could also be released while they eat. So, yeah, you can choose. Though, the more I think about they may need to inhale some to keep up with what their bodies would need, but I imagine it would be more limited then what we do. Plus, they could store gas and use it for different purposes, like the floating organisms we imagined earlier could possibly use it for lift and purpulsion. |
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| ATEK Azul | Apr 3 2009, 07:13 PM Post #29 |
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okay while this breathing thing i will leave up to you people. as for the nutrino sugers i think this could be possible but i have little idea what a nutrino is so you guys debate it. okay i think we need too expand too carnivores and herbivores we also need too work on physiology. and what do you all think of my hemoglobin idea? also i am not going too be posting much any more so i need the people interested in this too take over and keep it alive okay rodge the linkbot is one of the first nominys in my opinion so you all can debate that! |
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| zypher | Apr 5 2009, 10:28 AM Post #30 |
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pease get ideas down so I can draw... |
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because there are an infinite number of alternate realities, withen them an infinite ammount of infinite things are possible... infinitly. two samples of my artwork http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/zaraquexon/img016-1.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/zaraquexon/img018.jpg <embed width="384" height="206" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" src="http://www.spore.com/flash/csa_widget.swf?userid=2263016807&username=zaraquex&host=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spore.com%2Fview%2Fuser-thumbnail" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" scale="showall" name="latest-creatures" /></embed> | |
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... I guess having a constant rush of cold air pushed past it would slow the reaction, catching heat and neutrons and stuff... these parachute critters can be floating islands, floating translucent membranous islands...call'm ''Parachutes'' ... dunno what it'd feed on..
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