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wierd world; a insperational group project
Topic Started: Feb 23 2009, 07:28 PM (1,521 Views)
ATEK Azul
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alright i am making this a project for anybody too post in it is not a serius project more like a world based on and for inspiring other peoples creativity.

the point of this project is too make a really wierd and extreme alien world unlike earth. it will be made from the ideas of every body but the point is too make a world that can inspire every body else too make there own wierd worlds, you know get the creative juices flowing into a more weird and extreme section of the brain that is willing too make a risky world with stuff very different from us.

the main ideas i have is a world made almost exclusively of radioactive materials. and has a large very thick and presurized atmosphere and a several mile think couting of ice made from methane, ethane, water, amonia and complex oxygen compunds. inbetween this and the ground/oceans is an atmosphere of simular compunds plus nitrogen, hydrogen, helium, and some other stuf including a lot of radioactive particuls which along with the tidal forces of its moons and the life forms/organicly produced gases keep the world warm enough on the inside for life.

any more ideas for the planet should be suggested before we get too the life forms which hope fully will be awsome.

all posts are welcome exept for poluting mockery posts (like lamna has been doing in my other topics) are great along wideas for your own worlds based on these concepts of wierdness and extremeness.
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lets give it a low gravity, to allow for extreemly tall lifeforms!

mabey the planet's ocean water could be absent of all life, because of nearly constant eruptions under the water surface, which spew tons of toxic chemicals into the water. the water would be a sickening orange color because of this.

life evolved in stagment pools and lakes, because they contain the only drinkable water, which is still poisinus by human standards.

let's give it a series od small rings, like those of jupiter.

you asked for wierd...
because there are an infinite number of alternate realities, withen them an infinite ammount of infinite things are possible... infinitly.

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Wait a minute... Zypher, your criteria for life are too earth-like normal. How about some radioactive-extremophile bacterias in the seas for starts? They could create complex lifeforms that either harness the radioactivity, eat the ice, or shield themselves from the radiation. Due to the high pressure of the atmosphere, they may develop flattened bodies like starfish or somewhat (depends on the gravity?). Autotrophs may take root in the ice-ceilings (If I'm reading you correctly, the world has ice, then atmosphere, then the surface). Flying creatures would be kinda weird to imagine with all the high pressure and the climate unpredictability. Maybe because of the high pressure there could be a direct transition from ocean to air in evolution?
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these are all awsome and exactly what i am looking for keep posting.

maybe the plant life has evolved from ediacarans and some of them filterfeed the radioactive particles in the water and in the air close too the ground.

i can see the warm lower atmosphere and higher cold atmosphere creating powerful storms all the time which might make gliding animals more common and effective becouse of the higher wind speeds and strengths.

and the water too air transition might have happened before the water too land making it harder for amphibius animals too take hold while making air creatures better adapted too land at first.

we could have animals without jaws on land which devourer things using the tongue and muscular check/jaws.

the nervisystem might be made of copper while the animals are actualy hydrogen(this is up for debate) based.

please keep posting this is great.
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Aztec, you have probably just thought up one of the coolest planets ever.

The warmer surface and cooler atmosphere would make for intense drafts flowing up and down, so, perhaps gliding life could exist follwing these intense air currents. If a form of predation evolves to eat in this kind of ecosystem, it would easily evolve a form intelligence (Navigating the air currents to follow the food could quickly become complicated, since the currents would interesect and split apart like ocean currents, but much more complicated)

The intense radiation could possible mean no Double Helix at all. Maybe something else is used to carry information all together? Like a clump of genes in a tight nit ball (Tons of extra recessive genes, the dominant relying totally on whatever gene is on the surface), maybe?
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yeah very nice work.

i think that microbes could form a helium pocket which could allow them too float and drift on the currents, these would eat radioactive particles gases and heat in some sort of radiosynthesis. these microbes could form the basis for the air food chain.

and you know it is funny people keep calling me aztek here which i apreciate becouse it is a culture i love the architecture of, but my name on here lacks the z. so it is weird but easy too mistake lol rofl. 8D
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well, sa I see it, with all of this pressure in the atmosphere, lifeforms wouldn't realy require wings to fly. just a very small boyancy sack, and perhapse a few legs to propell them foreward, and there you have it... flight.

they could changhe the boyancy in thier sacks to rise above presurized currents, fall below them, or just use the currents as a perpulsion system, rideing on a fixed current thier entire lives. I can easly see herbivores doing this... well, not realy herbivores... I suspect what we would clasify as herbivores would actualy feed on the radiation in the atmosphere, much in the way a plant feeds on sunlight. carnivores would need only to move to another current of air when they exaust thier emeidate area of all fixed (non moving) 'radiovores'.

I also can see 'fish' as animals that will be just as comfortable navagateing the air currents as the watter currents... although they would stay realativly low in the atmosphere.

what is it that creates light on this planet by the way, if anything? would the ice shell just prevent any light from reaching the surface?
because there are an infinite number of alternate realities, withen them an infinite ammount of infinite things are possible... infinitly.

two samples of my artwork
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I think this is an awesome idea! But Hydrogen based life would not work, since hydrogen has only one valence electron. And from Zypher's question about the light, I think that from all the radiation, light would not be a big problem for lifeforms to produce. And the ice layer would probably allow some light in, but not much. I think that the gene clump wouldn't really work, because how would it go about replicating? The genes could be contained in a membrane instead of a strip though. I'm liking the air current lifeforms though. Maybe life began in the atmosphere?
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Hey what would happen if the ice shell was hit by a meteor?
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Oh fuck, nuclear explosion!
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haha... BOOM!!!!

no, the coating would probably just shatter, and all life on the planet would go extingt, because the lifeforms that once dwelled on the inside of the coating would perish, causing an ecosystem collapse... and all the pressure in the planet's atmosphere would disperse...

okay, so it's a fragile world...

it would make some sense that life would start in the atmosphere, or even if early life would move through water and air as if there was no difference, much like the planet's 'fish' of today.
because there are an infinite number of alternate realities, withen them an infinite ammount of infinite things are possible... infinitly.

two samples of my artwork
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/zaraquexon/img016-1.jpg
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj74/zaraquexon/img018.jpg

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No, they wouldn't all go extinct. Since, I'd imagine, the life would be living in the seas and life would develope back.

Anyway, lif Hydrogen wouldn't work then something higher then. I don't think we should use Carbon, since this is supposed to be as alien as possible
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How about oxygen? It has a lot of bonds and if we want this to be bizarre, oxygen would do well because it's so reactive.
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so there's an ice layer over the atmosphere? cool...

if there's a bunch of set currents in the atmosphere, and the air is pressurized and all that, the life could use shifting plates for catching air and moving around. For sight they could use concentrated alpha radiation (I like the idea, not sure how possible it is though...). And there could be a kingdom of life that uses the breaking down of radioactive elements for energy...

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these are awsome ideas keep it up i will not post much for a while becouse i am more buisy lately but so far so good every thing appears too be going awsome.

i like the oxigen idea but would it breath carbon or something else i would like some thing else personaly too make it stranger.

as for the mass extinction thing i think this worlds magnetic feild would have too be large and powerful compared with the earth, it might have a thin dense atmosphere on top of the ice this could creat a suction effect when an objest hits, this combined with the extreme cold of the outer surface might almost instantly seal it as the vaporized water freezes and the whole is filled in with surface material. the objects might mostly hi the poles which could make the poles have a denser sheild.
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