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What's next?; Real discussion on what we are facing
Topic Started: Jan 8 2009, 08:49 PM (418 Views)
Gnomeo Knibbleschnitz
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Hey, guys, a few thoughts on what's going on.

Things we should have asked:

1) Did the murders occur on consecutive nights?
2) What was the moon doing at those points?
3) Did Van Helstring or whatever Thurman Munson's name is get to the city before the murders and THEN they started happening, or after the murders started?

I get the feeling that Thaulman is not out of the woods yet in terms of responsibility. Do we have any confirmations that he was not a werewolf once the sun goes down?

Any other possiblities besides werewolves? As Malcom is sharing with the group in small talk as they enter the tavern, it has been rumored that metallic looking creatures were running on the roof tops the nights of the murders. The wolves could just be silver. Or it could be some type of golem? I hate golems. They aren't really an undead/necromancy type thing either.


So, I just thought I'd put up some ideas for discussion.
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Jakub Escroc
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We already know this stuff.

1. The murders occurred on 8 consecutive nights.
2. The moon would have passed from, at worst, 3/4 full waxing to 3/4 full waning during those 8 days. It's probably not a werewolf.
3. Thurman Munson was the catcher for the Yankees and died in a plane crash in 1981, IIRC. Van Helsing kept the house from murder #2 exactly as is, so he was there for pretty much all of em.

I have a feeling we'll find out about Thaulman soon enough. He's still on my radar as a possible lycanthrope. There is one particular one the signs point to, but I'm not going to spoil it if I'm right. However, if you want spoilers, the Wikipedia entry on Lycanthrope(Dungeons and Dragons) makes it pretty clear which variety we're dealing with if it is Thaulman-- and you remember the details.
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After doing some other reconsidering, we may actually be dealing with something completely different. Either way, holy water applied to our swords would be a really, REALLY good idea.
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Well spoil us, man. What do you think it is? I can't access D&D type stuff from work due to filters, so I couldn't look up the Wiki thing you mentioned. So I'm not sure which lycanthrope your initial allegations indicated.

I will say that when I purchased the Holy Water from the... well, you don't need to know where I purchased that... Marc looked and said something like, "That won't necesarily help you," and/or, "that only works on undead, you know," which suggested to me that we may not be dealing with Undead.

At the time, though, I had lots of cash - YHWH had answered my, erm.. .prayers, and I bought 10 bottles of it anyway. So I'll be happy to spread the goodness around.
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Funny how you can't access D&D stuff due to filters, and I can't access chatboxes.

My personal feeling is that we might be looking at a lesser demon of some kind. If it is in fact a demon, though, we're royally screwed since they can only be hit by magical weapons.

If Thaulman is a lycanthrope, wererats are known to carry rapiers as their weapon of choice, which would explain why a monk would be carrying an edged weapon.
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Hmmm... Does anyone have any magical weapons? We don't have the cash to obtain them.

If somehow I obtained one through my prayers and steadfastness to god, then I might have a +1 dagger, but that would only do 1d4 damage per hit, and would not be terribly helpful against a lesser demon/daemon with probably 70+ hp? I suppose combine that with our 10 holy waters that are 1d6 each, and that will give us...30 points or so of damage if we hit with all of them doing average damage, plus 2-5 points every time someone who happened upon a +1 dagger hit. I think if someone, such as a theif, if we had such a rogue fellow, hit them from behind, it might just triple the damage - who knows.

The clerics and paladins can hit out of pure holiness, though, can't they? that would then leave just Roland and Gwilam, and perhaps the lowly bard who doesn't have a +1 dagger that god might have given him.

My friend, Tim, should join us on Saturday, and he will be playing a cleric as well, so that will boost us up a little.
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No... if it is a demon, we're screwed. We wouldn't have the damage output, so it would have to be DM ex machina that got us out of the situation.

I also want to posit a second solution: maybe we're dealing with an evil man riding a beast with claws? That's a far more plausible explanation, since the tracks we found inside the home were mainly bootprints, and outside we found claw marks. Are we making an invalid assumption that we are dealing with just one critter?
Edited by Jakub Escroc, Jan 28 2009, 09:54 AM.
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Jan 28 2009, 09:53 AM
Are we making an invalid assumption that we are dealing with just one critter?
Unless it is a transforming person - claws when transformed, boots when not, putting us back to the original lycanthrope theory.

So you lean towards wererat, then? What puts you in that mindset? I still think Wereduck personally. I think Thaulman's a quack.
Edited by Gnomeo Knibbleschnitz, Jan 28 2009, 10:06 AM.
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Basically, this (quoted from Wikipedia, bold emphasis mine):

Five types of lycanthropes are described in the 3.5 Edition Monster Manual:

Type Alignment Habitat Favoured weapons in hybrid form
Werebear lawful good cold forests greataxes and greatswords
Wereboar neutral temperate forests gore attack combined with a weapon
Wererat lawful evil anywhere rapiers and hand crossbows
Weretiger neutral warm forests claws
Werewolf chaotic evil temperate forests teeth and claws


This, of course, would be assuming it is Thaulman, which I've ruled out due to the "detect evil" check I ran on him-- several times. It's just really, really strange that a cleric would carry a rapier, when they are typically forbidden from using edged or bladed weapons.
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Well, some things Marc is a little loose on and uses house rules. I suspect that he is a fighter thief who has become passionate about eliminating evil. I may have... erm... heard a song, yeah, that's it, about him that indicated his family was killed by witches was it? and he has thus become passionate about exterminating evil or the undead. Thus he went around and learned all sorts of stuff about the occult and now is a self-proclaimed witchhunter. I also learned, I mean, the song also indicated that he has a background with a government group that promotes thief-like activities, suggesting proficiencies in theiving skills, but that is my assumption, and not actually stated by my informants the song I heard.

On a side note, Malcom did not share the above song with the group, and only indicated that he does not feel that Thaulman is above suspicion, but neither does he think that Thaulman is the most likely suspect.
Edited by Gnomeo Knibbleschnitz, Jan 28 2009, 01:36 PM.
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