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Big Brother; Season 19
Topic Started: Jun 20 2017, 01:57 PM (2,295 Views)
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Kevin is an odd person. I still find him mostly likable and entertaining but he definitely has some issues. He does have an affection for Christmas and has made many strange comments but I dont think he has really crossed any lines at this point. I do get the feeling though that it probably wouldn't be the first time Kevin had crossed that line.

Cody is too stubborn/stupid to even attempt working with Paul and I dont see any possible deal that would sway Paul to work with him either. Paul is pretty dead set on Cody this week thus this house is set on Cody. Cody did attempt to game with Alex/Jason and his arguments were actually good unfortunately Alex is the most loyal of the Paul minions.

At this point I'm just rooting for all of them to be evicted, they all suck!
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Nothing has changed....Cody will go and Paul will continue his steamroll. Kevin has moved up the target list so he could be in trouble tonight if things dont go just right.

I'm pretty annoyed they are cutting feeds until after Fridays special show. So no post-DE fallout. I'm assuming BBAD will be reairs of the show tonight. I hoping Fridays show will be something other than a clip show or concert. At this point I kind of hope its a triple eviction, I want them all evicted now just for being stupid.
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Terrible....My feeds are set to renew on the 29th. I'm pretty sure I will cancel before then. First time I will cancel before the final week.

Most boring DE ever?

I still have a soft spot for Mark even though I think hes dumb and naive. He'll never make it that far.

Kevins shadiness and sloppy gameplay are coming to a head he is a target in the next couple weeks.

Jason is dumb but I think deep down an okay guy. I still find him mildly rootable.

So they are interrupting the feeds of the most boring season ever for a visit from the most boring winner ever lol. I can only imagine how lame tomorrows show will be. I may skip it.

KMI its a great season to be otherwise occupied!
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There is a lot of hate everywhere. I know most of the stronger past female hgs were heavily supportive of Jess last week. Rachel, Janelle, Britney, and Vanessa were all tweeting about her and she retweeted all of those when she got back on twitter. I have seen nobody supporting Paul, not even Victor. Derrick has been careful to not mention anyone by name but hes made it clear he's not a fan of the mob mentality and personal attacks.

This will easily go down as one of the top 5 worst seasons ever.


ETA: Rumored spoiler from a reliable leaker---Christmas is the new HOH and tonight will just be a clip show.
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Confirmed--Christmas is HOH. Matt/Jason are noms. Assuming plan is to backdoor Mark but I haven't heard specifically, maybe Christmas will surprise us.....probably not. It sounds as if Jason may have gotten word in his HOH letter that he is going to be a daddy again. Lots of chatter about baby names etc. All seem calm and quiet.
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Jason won POV and Mark will be walking out the door. It was Zingbot and the slip n slide comp. Not much chatter about what the zings were. He sang Christmas a song in the 12 days of Christmas format. Kevin was something about the cling wrap and clinging to his youth. Matts was you haven't done anything all season, except Raven. Those are the only ones they have talked about.

I 100% believe that Jess/Cody edit was part of a deal struck with them by production to keep Jess/Cody from walking out the door after the day of chaos happened. Something totally went down in the DR that night and I think that edit and some extra money were a big part of it. Thats my theory anyway.

A Cody fan fave vote wouldn't shock me. I think its probably more likely to be Kevin or Paul if he is somehow not in the finals. Paul is still pretty well like among TV only and casual viewers. If Cody continues to stir up stuff in jury and get airtime that may help his cause.

Raven is nauseating. She had a whole new set of ailments tonight after the veto comp. Paul was very aggravated she was out-whining him.
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Yep that about sums it up.

I also enjoyed watching them fall really hard during that comp.
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Jason is the new HOH. Alex gave it to him after a pretty funny back and forth between the two.
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Paul has kind of decided they can keep Kevin til 5 unless he needs a scapegoat before that. I believe Matt will be the target this week. Better to let Jason take the shot at Matt (the one he wants to take anyway) and keep everyone else happy and Paul keeps his most loyal sheep Raven to drag along for a while. Kevin may be plan B if the Matt plan goes awry. I would be curious to see how much resistance Jason would put up if Paul/Alex really pushed for Kevin to go.
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They are lying to Raven saying Kevin is the backdoor plan. She believes them because shes an idiot. I really hope Matt gets POV and takes himself off and they vote her out. Alas he is an idiot too and will probably pull her off if he wins.
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Jason won the POV it was the hide-a-veto comp. Paul and the rest of the cult pushed/are pushing for Kevin to go. Jason has resisted to this point and they have all calmed down and agreed Matt is an ok option too. I dont think Paul is quite done trying though so Jason could still cave to the pressure. Jason rightfully knows Kev is more loyal to him and is a potential jury vote so I give him some credit for at least playing his own game and verbalizing that he is doing so to the others. He also cant stand Maven which is a bonus for him. Kevin knows he was/is the potential backdoor so he is playing a bit more this week.

Hoping noms stay the same and they flip on Raven but I wont miss Matts 4 shirts at all either.
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Yeah Jason has been complaining to Kevin about Alex being bossy for weeks now. He even told Paul/Alex part of the reason he doesn't want to put Kevin up is because he feels like he's being forced. Jason/Alex have had several spats about her emasculating him. She eventually half apologizes and he swallows some pride and they make up. He clearly has issues with being told what to do but has kept his cool so far knowing Alex is one of the few who can help him get to the end.

I've always wanted Jury house videos. We will probably see all 3 arriving this Thurs. but candid videos would be awesome. I guess though since they are not allowed to talk about game they probably think its to boring to show more than a few minutes.
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Jason didnt cave and the veto was not used. Chaos is erupting, first Maven vs. Jason, now Kevin vs. Josh. Kevin/Josh very heated and Kevin threatened and went toward Josh and fish for a bit now.
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Seems to have simmered down for now.....until Paul/Xmas get bored again. Sadly this plan worked to perfection for Paul. He deserves the win.
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This whole sic Josh on the weekly target thing is old and stupid. I didn't watch very much of todays drama but I did flashback for all the really heated parts. It was pretty much as vile as everything else this season. The Jason comment was bad but in context it wasnt even in the top 20 most crazy, vile things I've heard this season. Still not ok but he was joking around saying he would say that to Kevin, if after saving him this week Kevin won next hoh and nominated him and/or Alex. He said he was just trying to think up the craziest thing he could. Kevin was not in the room.

Paul definitely got lucky with this cast. Its right up there with S16 as possibly the dumbest cast ever. All these idiots are actually going to take Paul to the end or at least F4. It is fascinating, infuriating, and utterly stupid all at the same time.
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Cody did talk about Paul playing the best game in one of his exit interviews. I could totally see him voting for Paul in the end. Actually most of them have talked about Paul running the show after their eviction so I think it just depends on whether they are bitter about it or not. I would love to see him get second again but for the sake of the game anyone else winning would be laughable.

They really do seem to believe Paul is just there to lead them to the end and help them win. They've all forgotten its an INDIVIDUAL game. Alex actually told Jason the other night that Paul was just there to promote his friendship brand and help someone who deserves it win. Really?!?

I would love to know how the season would have played out sans Paul.
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For those that are pre-empted or just dont care enough to watch the show anymore Matt went out 6-0 (with penalty vote for breaking HN rules). HOH was rain delayed for 1st time ever. Christmas is the new HOH, it seems it was ready, set, go and everyone threw it to her as was earlier decreed by Paul. Jason/Alex are in trouble but they believe target is Raven/Kevin. Jury house segment was fun.
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Yeah Matt intentionally broke all the HN rules. He was actually hoping to get more than one to ensure he left over Raven. He thought he would get at least 3 for breaking each of the 3 requirements. Julie did call him out about throwing away $500,000 for a girl he just met, that was funny. He predictably gave a dumb, boring answer about how shes the greatest person he's ever met. Sadly she kept the god awful orange shirt and its now her must have piece of clothing.....it lives on.

Heres a clip of jury segment---sound sucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhL1wD3Q8r4

Matts interview with Julie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obWLkz53nLA
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I'm pretty much over this season. Theres literally nothing left to root for. They are all stupid and deserve to be banished from the BB kingdom forever.

Sadly Josh is the only one with a true read on the house and nobody listens to him. The rest are all mindless, spineless puppets.

Tonights episode was horrible....when did BB become a team game?!? I really dont get it.

Jason will go 1st in the double followed by either Alex or Kevin/Raven if Alex wins veto. I would hope Jason leaving will wake Alex up but I doubt it.

I'm glad the torture will end soon.
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I cancelled my feeds but they gave me a free month so I'll have them through the end even though I barely watch them now.

Paul has done the job he came there to do. I dont fault him for that and he can say he dominated the game from day 1. As a viewer I agree with most everyone else it has made this season almost unwatchable. I just fear that we will be stuck with Paul as Jeffs replacement for interviews etc. once this is all over since I'm sure production is loving every minute of this and are now giving him a major puppet master edit.

Josh fully sees what is happening but he defers to Christmas for most everything and she has drowned in the kool-aid. I think she has visions of cutting Paul at F4 to make her case to the jury but I think if Paul gets past this DE he will hoh/veto win his way to the end. Josh is actually a fan of the show, he says superfan but I wouldn't say I believe that. He was a finalist for S17, I think the spot that eventually went to Austin. He laid everyones games out very accurately to Christmas and she shut him down. He exasperatedly gave up and agreed to go along with Pauls plan.

I have no hope anyone will do anything except wait for Paul to determine who gets 2nd place.
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I gave up on S16 feeds in the last couple weeks due to boredom but still watched the shows to the end. I struggle getting through the shows already this season. Its bad.

They got to have a party for BBAD tonight. It was boring. Paul had a mini meltdown. It appears his girlfriend has broken up with him or something. Hes in a very sour mood.

Plan remains to send Jason out, Alex/Jason are still clueless. Plan is to tie the vote and let Christmas do the deed.

Any chance they just have to evacuate the house due to the wildfires and we can just try to forget this happened?
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Paul was talking and mentioned her, we were fished and then he was called to DR and told she had withdrawn her release so he is no longer allowed to mention her. So maybe he wasn't told exactly that she broke up with him but certainly pulling her release is a good indicator. He told someone earlier in the season that he thought she might not be interested in waiting for him since it was a new relationship.

I miss the good old days, we've only had one megaphone this season and it was lame. Even the hecklers dont care about this season lol.

Much online speculation if Josh will/should be told about the impending hurricane.
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Well U-verse and my local CBS affiliate have decided I dont need to see BB anymore because they are too busy fighting over money. Do I care enough to watch it online....doubtful.
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Glad to see Raven go. At least now if I dare to turn on feeds I wont have to hear her shrieking and listen to her many ailments.

Jason is super salty. Love that Josh blew up Pauls game in his goodbye message to Jason. Jasons exit interview on the feeds was pretty funny. He wants Christmas to win.

Alex is this weeks target if she doesn't win veto.
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Yeah for some reason Jason thinks Alex turned on him even though Josh outed everything....no clue where he is getting that but hes an idiot lol. I think he thinks maybe Alex knew?

Paul made sure by voting with Alex that he would be able to get her to put Raven up. She still thinks Paul will take her to F2. She nommed Kevin because she hates him and shes an idiot.

I feel bad for Josh. He is so tortured right now knowing he needs to take the shot at Paul but Christmas just isn't having any of it. He has no backbone so theres very little chance he makes that move without her. Christmas/Paul are constantly on his case for feeling bad about sending Alex home. I would have told them both to shut the hell up by now.

How do we all feel about Celebrity BB? It has to be more fun than this season.
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I know everyone loves the celeb version in the UK and from all accounts its always a huge trainwreck so it could be kinda fun depending on the celebs they get. I'm definitely curious.

The last couple days have been mildly amusing watching Alex come to the realization she got played by Paul. Paul told her yesterday he wasn't saving her with POV and they are voting her out, he blamed Josh/Xmas. Josh then told Alex enough truth that she has basically put everything together. She is very salty. She will still vote for Paul in the end (and she claims she will rally the rest of the jury to also vote for him) but shes not happy about it.
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Totally worst season EVAH!!!

I am soooo hoping for a bitter jury. Thats all thats left to root for. Paul had a pretty easy path but he did work for it. That 3 weeks of safety at the very beginning set him up perfectly. Thats when everyone jumped aboard the Paul train since they knew they couldn't target him he became the de facto leader. He was smart enough to read everyone early on and get rid of anyone who was there to win or was a threat to him. Starting with Dominique he engineered every eviction...EVERY SINGLE ONE. He had a hand in Jillians too but that first week was so weird with Megan quitting and no feeds until well into the week I dont count that fully for him. The other idiots made it easy for him but he was smart enough to take advantage. A lot of his more nuanced machinations were missed on the broadcasts but early on his gameplay was on point. It went south the week Jess used the hex. Thats when he flipped the switch and dictator Paul came out.

All that said I still hope he loses....to a girl....by 1 vote. (Not that i want Christmas to win either lol).

Alex leaves today, feeds down til after Wed. show.
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Reddit spoiler says Paul is the new HOH after Alex was evicted.
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And shocker (or not).....Paul is the rumored POV winner.

With this HOH and POV- Pauls stats
It makes 6 HOH wins tying Janelle and Rachel for most all time. If he wins the final he will tie a group of players for most in a single season with 4 and have the most all time.

He ties Janelle and Dani Donato for most POV wins in a single season with 5. He also passes Janelle for most all time vetos with 8.

He has the most combined comp wins with 14 beating Janelles 13. She still holds the record for single season comp wins with 9 to his 8.

I think he also now has the record for most time in the BB house.

I hated even typing all that. The mere thought of Pauls name being on almost every BB record makes me a bit queasy. Especially when the sheep threw almost every comp this season. Terrible.
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Raven delusional as ever.

To be or not to be bitter seems to be the question. I'm still rooting for bitter lol.

Mark/Elena were hilarious.

Glad Jason/Alex made up.

Anyone notice Kevin kissed Paul and Christmas but not Josh on his way out? A little mafia kiss of death maybe? Maybe a sign he is planning to vote for Josh...I would be surprised but it struck me as very weird especially knowing a little of Kevins background.

Paul won part 1.
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