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Big Brother; Season 18
Topic Started: Jun 14 2016, 06:07 PM (4,095 Views)
KMInfinity
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She really hates Corey.

And hates Paulie so much he's on ignore and has been caged as if he's been evicted.

:P

There seems to be a possible split between P&P which could twist the flow of the game and give Paulie some fits. I hope so. I also hope Michelle is able to pull it together and get Victor to see that he is being played by Paulie. Because the whole fandom is shakingtheirheads@Victor's dumbass noms. In my wildest dreams, Michelle wins veto and Victor gets a clue and puts up Paulie.
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I pretty much hate everyone except James, Nat and Bridgette at this point. While there is a small rift with P&P I dont think it will derail their finals plan. I just wonder if Paulie will make the same mistake Cody did and take the wrong person to the end (if they make it that far). I have a sneaking hunch he might cut Paul at the end and take the easier path for a win instead of doing the "honorable" thing.

As much as I would like to see Paulies plan muffed up this week I really cant stand Michelle so I would be thrilled to see her booted.

Long veto comp 7+ hours and counting........
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Paulie won the veto it was the hide and seek one where they trash the house. Paulie saying he wont use it but lobbying hard for Nic/Corey/James/Nat to keep Z against the wishes of Vic/Paul. Vic and James had some sort of dust up during the comp.
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Seems like there is a house flip happening.....FINALLY! It was mostly instigated by Nat/Bridge they got James reluctantly onboard then Paul. The new 5 of Bridge, Nat, James, Mich, Paul spent much time comparing notes on Paulie and seem to be ready to finally start playing Big Brother. Only time will tell if Paul runs back to Paulie with the info. I havent been keeping up much since the Olympics started but now I guess I will have to split focus the next couple days to see how this plays out.
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Yeah I read that Natalie told James that she had been deliberately staying UTR and throwing comps, not showing much, but she is NOT stupid - and then proceeded to lay out very accurately a clear picture of all the HG's games and their alliances and the various scenarios.

It would be fun to see how Paulie deals with being on the bottom of the pecking order.
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That's funny. I was just thinking that the only storyline I could make out of the show at this point is How To Get Away With Paulie. I'm not sure I believe that Paul would really turn against him but at least they're talking about the threat that is Paulie. Makes me feel a little better.

Being the clean freak that I am (especially with shared living spaces), what James did to the house during the POV comp was like a crime against humanity.
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lol---I admit that when reading about him destroying the house I was disapproving, but actually watching it made me laugh. I think it's because he did it with such glee.

The show is bound by its very structured flow. They ALWAYS end with the veto ceremony. So all of the anti-Paulie plotting of the last 24 hours is saved for tomorrow...except, there's a DE, so I think they are gonna condense it to a very simple plotline. Too bad if that happens as that would have been Natalie's and somewhat Bridgette's) season highlight.

I do think that part of the reason for tonite's Paulie Show is to prep for a simple "pride goeth before a fall" storyline tomorrow if he actually is the 2nd DE evictee.
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Nat is not dumb but shes not quite as smart as she thinks she is.

They are going to have a jam packed show. They HAVE to show the stuff going down right now. Its crazy everyone is in a total uproar! Still going on so i will try to summarize once things settle down. Detailed recap reading is necessary after all this lol.
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Everyone is pissed at everyone else. Nat told Z Paulie was hitting on her (as planned by Nat/Bridge). That of course set Z off which set Paulie off. Paulie then made yet another comment about Nats fake boobs which set off Bridge and James. Paulie then dragged Paul, Vic, and Corey into it saying Nat was screwing over James by flirting with all the boys. That set Paul off because he wanted no part of it. Currently Paulie is railing to James about Nat. Not sure where this will shake out but right now things are still at a rapid boil ready to simmer over.
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So, the question is...

Does Paulie have a tight enough hold over "his boys" that in the log run, they will side with him and take out another girl in the DE (especially Paul and James).

This finally reminds me of past seasons when a very very different flow of the game will happen based on who wins HoH. I am hoping Natalie or Bridgette wins the 2nd HoH tonight.


ETA...

Did anyone else know that Natalie has met Paulie before and is friends with Paulie's EX (who {supposedly} gave him back his ring after he proposed, because she caught him cheating with multiple partners) ??? Apparently Natalie is friends with Tiffany of Amazing Race 2015, who is friends with paulie's Ex, and is currently blowing up Paulie's private life on twitter. lolol

Is this new info, or have I missed something?


And... Did I miss this too? People are spec-ing that James has a pre-show deal for extra $$$ from Paulie (arranged by Derrick) to help Paulie's game rather than his own. smh and grrrr if true.
Edited by KMInfinity, Aug 11 2016, 07:41 AM.
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Tiffany of Amazing Race 2015, who is friends with paulie's Ex, and is currently blowing up Paulie's private life on twitter. lolol
In the context of the game I'm rooting against Paulie but airing someone's dirty laundry like that is just being mean. I am curious what she's saying about him, though, lol.

Sounds like I better head over to Hamsterwatch...
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I don't think she has any of it yet. It all seems to have happened in the last 24 hours with all of the drama ongoing.

Reading the live feed transcriptions from jokers is actually pretty intense. Paulie is more and more deranged, with f-bombs every other word. He's saying some pretty brutal stuff and the f-bombs are apparently to mask his horrible browbeating, since he knows BB won't be able to edit his awfulness into anything that can be aired if literally every other word is fuck. Also, he's been warned by BB to stop the swearing or face punishment. :o

James looked a bit shakey and waffley for a bit, but apparently he was just setting up some defense lines JIC Paulie wins the DE HoH, and he is totally on board for the Zakiyah-Paule DE eviction.
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One of the Paulie-Michele confrontations last nite.

http://bbfeedster.com/big-brother-18-michelle-and-paulie-fight-the-night-before-eviction/

What's really amazing is that he seems to be so off-kilter he hasn't picked up on the fact at all that there's shifting going on. He is gonna be so blindsided when Zakiyah goes.

i hope BB lets them sleep in until noon so there's les chance of a slip.

Plus, doesn't BB secretly (behind the jeffloops) have the HG practice a DE runthru practice episode first? That was the rumor in the past.
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I think Paulie has completely lost Paul and James. James was still waffley until Paul went for the low blow about Nats chest. That sealed his fate with James. James did a good job holding his tongue but it was written all over his face.

The Nat/Paulie pre-show connection has been discussed at length in the house. They actually know alot of the same people. One of his exes is also the cousin of Gina Marie from season 15. Not sure if shes the one who gave the ring back or not. They have both been reluctant to discuss details about their mutual friends but it has been mentioned several times.

I think there was/is some sort of pre-show deal with James/Paulie. I wouldnt even begin to guess what it might have been. Apparently Derricks dad is James' manager. Interestingly Paulie has been very careful to not discuss Derrick with James in the room. He invokes Derricks name constantly with everyone else but not James. Not sure what that means but I find it kinda curious.

Tonight will be fun.
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Corey????? Damn, that pretty much killed all of the excitement for the night.
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Yeah, the BB gods never smile on the side of the House the fans like.
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I'm still hopeful Michele or Nat wins HoH.

And I'm so disappointed in Nicole this season. ugh..
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Were the shout outs about Natalie in regards to Paulie calling her fake like her boobs? Or did he say something else?

Yes, WTF happened to Nicole? I really enjoyed her in her previous season.

Michelle's crying jaunts are starting to amuse me. We'll see how long that lasts, lol.
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I think I missed the shout outs?

Michele is such a weird case. i hope she's okay when she gets out. she's very image conscious and I have a feeling she will drive herself off the cliff reading every single thing written about her.
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I think both Michelle and Bridgette made a comment during their pleas about Natalie being proud of herself and to stand up for herself. I don't know if those a technically considered a "shout out" but that's what I was referring to, lol.

jbrr must be watching the Olympics!
Edited by bilki, Aug 11 2016, 10:01 PM.
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Ah, I missed that. That might be in reference to Paulie saying that feminism is the same as racism and that paulie has a real problem with women who "speak out of turn." he also keeps calling nat a "jersey girl" and she didn't know what that meant, until James told her it meant a girl who latches onto a guy to be taken care of... who wants a sugar daddy. Nat says no man ever took care of her, not even her dad ::sniff:: and she's always taken care of herself.

Meanwhile, Paulie is working on becoming the most hated HG ever, beyond Aaryn racism levels. He announced that his mom and sisters would "destroy" Bridgette on social media...and then this just awhile ago:

(Michele is not letting Paulie relax, and is needling him...wants him off kilter for HoH later tonight I think)
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Michlle tells him that Z said cuddling with him last night ws just strategy

Paulie: She said it was strategy? seriously?

Michelle: yah

Paulie: Really? cuz we boned last night.

Victor, Paul laugh.. Paulie turns to look at camera..


Later he jokes with the guys and tells them he wouldn't kiss on camera out of respect for his family, and then proceeds to give details about five times he "boned" Zakiyah the house...
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Also, an amazing reddit compilation of key clips throughout the season....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P41Abhft0nbIf4PMHMJgluQdPSUnOEYV1HjllGUJKMY/htmlview?pli=1#
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Also twitter concerned about the post evicted zakiyah bashing and that Zakiyah could be pregnant, since Paulie smugly announced he "doesn't cover his troops..."

I don't think I've ever disliked a house guest as much as Paulie, and there are a LOT I haven't liked...
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Yes, more and more he sounds like a nasty piece of work. Interesting that he expects his mother and sisters to "destroy" Bridgette on FB all mixed in with the issues he seems to have with women. Is he getting more negative than positive comments on the other board you frequent, KMI?

Corey worries me. He's just a big dumb frat boy who rarely thinks for himself. The way he went on and on about them (the guys) staying together before he announced his HOH noms was a little odd. I feel like he'll try to throw a wrench in any plans to send Paulie packing.
Edited by bilki, Aug 11 2016, 11:51 PM.
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LOL yeah I was out for the night then had some Olympic time but I'm back to BB now.

Paulie has said alot of stuff to Nat so I think the mentions of standing up for herself were just in general. He is a real piece of work. Hes also saying his girl cousins and sister will "be the shit out of those girls" (Bridge, Nat, Mich) for the stuff they said if they ever see them. He is pretty universally hated. I dont know if hes my personal most hated but hes in the top 5 for sure. He's still super pissed at James though James did tell him beforehand what was happening.

Sucked that Corey won but the DE always seems to go that way. I really wanted Bridge to stay. Corey is still Paulies #1 bro so no surprise he wouldnt take the shot at him. He is a dimwit so I figured he'd do exactly what he did. It will bite him later.

I think everyone (at least the feed chatters) have been voting for Bridge all week to get the care package so those are all wasted votes now. Most seem to be switching it to Mich now.

Mich will have MAJOR issues when she gets out. She will read everything and up until this week the fandom was not nice. I still dont like her but she has some deep personal issues that this experience might exacerbate and I am legit worried for her in that regard.

I think Z was on birth control so I doubt she is pregnant. She will get some hate but not to the level of the others.

Vic is the new HOH. He is growing on me. Paulie believes hes putting up 2 girls but his plan seems to be Paulie/Corey. We'll see if Paulie can work his magic and flip it back or not. Nic threw James under the bus hard to Vic and with Paulie also railing at James it worries me he might go that way. Hopefully Paul will keep Vic on track since hes still anti Paulie.
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I saw most of that Vic-Nic meeting and it was more like an interrogation. My sense is that he could tell she was not being open and honest with him. (Bilki, Vic came to Nic and asked her to confirm that there was a DE plan to evict him and she was so waffley and sketchy in her responses.)

The reasons I think james will be safe from nic's TUTB -

1-Vic opened with saying he already knew the score and just wanted confirmation. So, right there, Nic blew it because she should have realized that the info Vic had was NOT that James instigated the plan. She already correctly noted to Paulie right after the DE that she realized it was the three of them (NiCorey and paulie) against the House, and if Corey hadn't won, one of the three would be gone.

2-It was super obvious that Nicole was dithering and deflecting and didn't want to tell Victor anything. They were NOT bonding in this talk. (Even though it ended in a hug-lol.) Victor literally did an amazing job forcing her to be logical and walk thru the discussion, like a professional interrogator. It was pretty interesting to watch. He was very soft spoken, low key, but on-point and focused.

3-She FINALLY, after many attempts to dodge, came out with James' name, and then added Paulie and Corey too. And then tried to cover it all by saying the plan was actually a way to distract Day her eviction week (with James' slip that clued Day in that she might not survive to DE...) and was never a serious plan. Whether true or not, the explanation came so slowly and was so "sketchy" that Vic seemed to me to be unimpressed.

And though she pushed REAL HARD to get him to promise not to put her up, he never did promise and came right out and said he may "have to" put her up...

Of course, I went to bed at 3 AM (midnite BB time) so who knows what chaos took place. off to read the late late late news. lol

(This is the first time all summer I have watched BBAD live.)
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Not much happened late night just more of Paulie bashing the girls and trying to reinforce why he was right about everything and the girls were basically stupid. Lots more Paul playing all sides and the reading of the Corey/Vic HOH letters and all that jazz.

Nic actually was telling the truth about the convo to Vic. It was the same convo in which he accidentally told Day she was leaving that they showed on the show. I agree the convo was pretty disastrous for her. She came off badly and Vic said as much to Paul. I think James will be ok but Vic had been pushing getting James out over the last couple weeks to the guys before all the Paulie stuff came out so if he wanted to take a shot he has the reason now.

Nic got the care package so she is safe.
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Vic followed through. Paulie/Corey are up. Much drama ensuing. Vic holding his ground nicely. Paulie getting madder and madder.
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good we may finally get another man out of the house, it was getting ridiculous.
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Yeah Vic was amazing last nite with Nicole, and now I'm reading the transcripts and he sounds like he's doing fine with Paulie in his face.

If he would just stop with the occasional dirt bag comment, I could shine up to him and have a favorite. I think he's basically a really nice guy who lets the bro peer pressure carry him into territory he wouldn't go on his own.

Meanwhile Corey is still clueless. :P
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