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Big Brother; Season 18
Topic Started: Jun 14 2016, 06:07 PM (4,098 Views)
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James and Day were filled in on the plan to keep Tiff. The vote is still a planned 5-4 with Bronte leaving and everyone denying. I worry with this group someone will screw up and forget who they are voting for and accidentally send Tiff home lol. They are planning to tell Paul just before they go live to avoid him feeling out of the loop even though he cant vote.

Season 6 was the best season and still my favorite too. Thats the first year I bought the feeds. I have gotten them almost every year since. I think I skipped one or two when I didnt particularly like anyone. My hubby laughs every year when the first commercials for BB start airing and says well I'll see you in 3 months. Then he asks me everyday whats new in the BB house and I have to give him a recap.....he's such a closet BB addict!
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Season 6 is the fave for me too. I got the feeds for the first time when Nakomis came up with the real back door plan. Stopped getting the feeds with the winter season the year of the writers strike.
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I don't remember which years we did/didn't watch feeds (but yes on 6...). Nice background noise if you really like some of them, but never really 'essential'... I would have BBAD on while it was on Showtime, but never really now on Pop (plus my schedule is less up-all-night than I used to be...).

Yeah, the strike season... Two-in-a-year was not enough time away to 'miss' the show (plus, bad casting, right?)...

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Very bad casting, and a really bad winner. Is Adam in jail now?
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Get some coffee and find a good detailed recap because this is a night of feeds gold! Tiff and Frank finally compared notes after a bit of a blow up and now they both know everything. Tiff is pulling a brilliant Vanessa act. Paul providing great comic relief on the other feed giving play by play to the boys upstairs. FINALLY these hamsters are giving us a show.
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So I should watch BBAD? :-D
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Wasn't there a 5 girl alliance that Tiffany was a part of a week or so ago? I think I forgot about it until the girls started talking about keeping Tiff. So many alliances with this group, and I've given up trying to remember who's on what team.

Sheeesh, that was close with Frank almost winning HOH.

I recorded BBAD, so I'll give it a look a little later....
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I think the Fatal Five did include Tiff.

Day, Nic, Zak, Michelle, and Tiff? The 8-Pack girls in effect....

I think there will be a LOT of shakeup once Frank gets his head around all the info Tiff dumped on him. These team safety rules are crazy, because otherwise, Paulie would be targeting Frank, who is gonna be super pissed his "Boys on the side" alliance with Paulie and Corey betrayed him.

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Good recap of the Tiff drama... First with Frank, then with Day, then with the Showmance 5 (- Paulie), then with Day alone.

http://bbfeedster.com/big-brother-18-tiffany-tells-all-to-frank-and-confronts-davonne/
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Yep those were Fatal 5. None of the girls have even mentioned that alliance in a couple weeks lol.

All the good stuff happened way after After Dark went off. There was some talk during it but all the fighting was after. They were still going when I finally gave up and went to bed at 7am.
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Showmance 5? Who's the single or triangle in that group?

Show was fun last night.
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So should they have kept Bronte? How annoying that Tiffany told Frank everything after they plotted to keep her in the house, especially because he was the one trying to get her out! I guess it makes them more fun to watch.

Has Tiffany really been ostracized for the last 2 weeks, or is she just being melodramatic?

Paulie drops a lot of F-bombs during game-talk conversations.
Edited by bilki, Jul 15 2016, 06:17 PM.
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It was funny how they (on last night's show) would cut to Tiffany every time somebody would talk about her (often) and she always looked the same - solemn, sunglasses, brooding like Vanessa had done... Yet we didn't see her talking very much at all, didn't really see any of her campaign to save herself...
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All the good stuff happened way after After Dark went off. There was some talk during it but all the fighting was after. They were still going when I finally gave up and went to bed at 7am.
grrr. I watched BBAD and yeah, you could see it building...oh well.

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Showmance 5? Who's the single or triangle in that group?
Zakiyah+Paulie++Nicole+Corey + Day---who was informed of it as a fait accompli, which is why she's been somewhat a loose cannon this past week, thinking she had a good big alliance and then a smaller inner grrrl alliance all set. She HATES the idea of being the 5th wheel, but I actually thought she could make that work with Paulie and Zakiyah... I dunno. Not sure if they gave themsleves a name, or if "Shomance 5" is what TVCH feedsters call them.

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So should they have kept Bronte? How annoying that Tiffany told Frank everything after they plotted to keep her in the house, especially because he was the one trying to get her out! I guess it makes them more fun to watch.

I never liked Bronte as much as when she was with Julie - super cute and classy. Tiffany claimed she wanted to finally do what she SHOULD have done 2 weeks ago, which is pin Frank down into explaining just why she was such a big target of his. But meanwhile, she already heard whispers that she would go up AGAIN, and knew she didn't have anyone's loyalty or support. (Paulie - we kept her for one reason - to win that HoH and get Frank out. She failed, she's gone.) So she reasoned that getting Frank clued in would help take the target off her and get the big fish targeting each other - Frank Vs the House at minimum. I am not sure where she will be when the dust settles. If Day is smart, she will tuck her under her wing and use her as a number. Problem is that everyone believes tiff is not loyal or trustworthy and she does seem to float to whomever talks to her last...
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Has Tiffany really been ostracized for the last 2 weeks, or is she just being melodramatic?
Actually, she has. And it's been pretty blatant. She will walk into a room and within a couple minutes everyone leaves. Some give an awkward justification...
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Paulie drops a lot of F-bombs during game-talk conversations.
Yeppers.
Edited by KMInfinity, Jul 15 2016, 07:49 PM.
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But meanwhile, she already heard whispers that she would go up AGAIN, and knew she didn't have anyone's loyalty or support. (Paulie - we kept her for one reason - to win that HoH and get Frank out. She failed, she's gone.) So she reasoned that getting Frank clued in would help take the target off her and get the big fish targeting each other - Frank Vs the House at minimum.
Oooooooh, that makes sense. It did sound like Paulie was talking about putting her up again during that F-bomb conversation. News travels fast, lol. And if they're all trying to avoid her, I can see why she would think telling Frank would send him charging in their direction. Sounds like she doesn't have much to lose. I didn't realize she was that far on the outs with her alliance.


How often do they get in trouble for talking about Diary Room conversations?
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Hard to say. They get a lot of "You are not allowed to talk about production/DR." announcements, but I am not sure they ever really get disciplined. I do know their stipends could be fined. There are also game punishments such as a penalty nom. Not sure if punishments have ever actually been done. I'll ask in the BB Q&A thread at TVCH.

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Jen season 8 once got a penalty non for eating an apple. She knew she was on her out . (The one Evel Dick hated.)

Jeff Schroeder in his first season got an extra day of slop for sipping a gatorade.


I think the the UK and Australia BB are more strict. I've read they take food away, turn of the hot water, etc - like HaveNots.

Maybe of interest - generic rules and regs during casting.
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2011/07/big-brother-finals-casting/
Edited by KMInfinity, Jul 15 2016, 09:15 PM.
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Apparently, Tiff just won RoadKill. hehehehe
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"You are not allowed to talk about production/DR." announcements
I was curious about how often they get the announcements. I've heard the "production/DR" one the most. Paul got the only singing one I've heard, so far. It must be difficult not to talk about production with the very people you are sharing the experience.
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The get the production/DR warnings ALOT. Especially this group because Michelle is constantly asking questions to the vets about stuff that happened on their seasons and what production did about it which triggers the warning every time. I would say on average it happens at least 15 times a day combined for both warnings if not more. There have been more stern warnings given in person in the DR for repeated violations. Earlier this season Day alluded that she heard something in the DR about Tiff to Nic/Mich/Z and she was called in and then forced to recant her story to all 3 of them and recite what appeared to be a scripted quote from production about not using production as a strategy and them not affecting the game.

Tiff/Paulie had some sort of fight while feeds were cut just a bit ago. Tiff confirmed she put up a guy (most likely Corey?). Should be confirmation here shortly as feeds were just cut again likely for the RK nom ceremony.
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Confirmed Corey is the nom. Lots of chatter and scheming going on.
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To follow up with Bilki's punishment Q - apparently, part of the HG contract is that they are not allowed to reveal punishments after the fact. I think it might be Evel Dick who said there's a LOT he could say but can't because the contract continues after the season is over. I wonder if there is a "statute of limitations" or if it's like one of those non-disclosure court settlements.
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Corey won the veto and as of now Tiff will be replacing him with Day when he takes himself off. Tiff spilled to the guys about Fatal 5 which all the girls denied and the guys just didnt seem to care anyway. Lots of snarky trash talking about Tiff, Bridgette, and Frank ensued. Paulie has a serious case of HOH-itis and is douchier than ever.

James and Nat may be the cutest showmance in BB history. I normally hate all showmances but these 2 are so sweet I just cant help but like them. They are the have nots this week and both of them are sleeping in the same bumper car lol. I really am holding out hope for them.
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Seeing it happen on screen made me even more understanding of why Tiffany told Frank. And, how annoying to have those girls come in and want to talk to her about it after they'd been ignoring her for weeks.
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Yeah I don't hate anyone, don't like anyone..this is becoming one of those seasons where I end up rooting for whomever is the underdog that week.

I sort of like James and Nat's low key showmance - if they had any game at all. But maybe that's why they are nicer, they aren't gamers. Maybe they will be late bloomers?
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Yes everyone has been nasty to Tiff BUT her crying fits and emotional outbursts are probably 90% strategy. She uses her emotions exactly the same way Vanessa did. I would probably feel bad for her if I hadn't watched her sister do it last year but since I did I have very little sympathy. I want her to stay just for the drama factor but I do understand the other hamsters not falling for it or wanting to coddle her.

I am very much in the same boat of not liking or hating anyone. Nobody has a completely solid game strategy worthy of winning right now.

Tiff is making some headway with throwing Day under the bus. I dont think it will be enough to save Tiff but it has definitely moved Day up on peoples target list.

Michelle is becoming quite a nasty little troll. She can go anytime and I'd be fine with that.

Nat/James are not gamers. I dont hold out much hope for them being late bloomers. James wasnt much of a gamer last year either so I just dont think its in his nature. Nat is really just there for a jury check so I dont see her stepping it up much either. Its just nice to have them as a counter to all the nastiness. Of course the others are now trying to tell James that Nat is using him, doesnt really like him, talks bad about him behind his back etc. I've never heard her say one bad word but they know James is now more loyal to her than them. I'm sure it will end up getting them both booted sooner rather then later but I'm enjoying them for now anyway.
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I like Nicole and James and Natalie, and don't like Frank, but I don't really care who wins or in what order they get ousted... I just wanna watch 'em fight and betray each other...

I was wondering if Michelle was a nice or not nice person. She's really not had a lot of airtime or much of a distinguishable personality on the show, but I think she's cute.
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Michelle is becoming quite a nasty little troll.
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LOL Michelle is just a nasty mean girl. She constantly talks crap about Tiff, Natalie, and especially Bridgette. She REALLY hates Bridgette, granted Bridgette made a not so nice comment about her week one during a bash session with Jozea and that side that got back to Michelle, but still thats the only thing Bridge ever said and Michelle just cant let it go. Michelle gets mad at everyone who talks to Tiff even if its just casual small talk. Nicole talked to Tiff last night and Michelle was livid she was so mad she was literally crying about it to Paul. James called her out on her meanness today after she got mad at him for talking to Tiff. Shes just not nice. The others encourage it too which makes it worse but they all seem to think she is going to win Americas favorite because she is "so funny".....um no. I kind of think maybe she was never in the popular crowd and now that she is she is taking it to the extreme. She only started the mean girl stuff once she got in with the showmance 5.

James/Nat had their first lovers spat today. Then they made up. They really are sickeningly sweet and adorable.

Day is officially the replacement nom since Corey took himself down.
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What was the James/Nat spat about?
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What I read. Maybe jbrr has more info...

Something about Nat offering to cook for James and him responding, according to Nat, ungratefully. Something like, "I'm a grown man I can cook." She thought he was too belligerent in his response and a simple, "No Thanks" would have been enough.

Really, that's it. (Plus some Michelle needling once the mini-rift was apparent...she is a piece of work, from what I'm reading, as jbrr said above. I think she is verrrry good at spotting someone's insecurity or stress point and picking at it, some times in the guise of sympathy. And creepy.)

It was such a big nothing that some feedsters suspect the "fight" was planned and feedsters didn't see the planning, to de-escalate the target on them as a showmance. Yesterday or Sunday, Michelle coldly told James that Nat was the next target. Which no one else has said ever, from what I've read. But James' skills in the game aren't always up to the swirling paranoia and contradictory info and craziness.

ETA Hamsterwatch tweets from yesterday:
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James: "the only thing I can do is apologize for that comment & move forward"
Natalie: "I accept your apology"
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James: "just blame everything on me" and they're laughing/joking again #bb18
James/Nat almost patched up, then she said "I go to sleep & wake up thinking of you", he said "ain't that scary tho?"

quit while ahead James
Edited by KMInfinity, Jul 19 2016, 08:58 AM.
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