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Big Brother; Season 18
Topic Started: Jun 14 2016, 06:07 PM (4,090 Views)
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Meet the cast...

http://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/photos/1006596/big-brother-season-18-meet-the-new-cast/111649/bronte-d-acquisto/
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Grrr lost a long post...

Rumors - haven't checked them out yet...

-Ian/Audrey/derrick(!); Vanessa returning as coaches (Ian says no.) Another rumor, from reliable Hamsterwatch has Frank, Nicole, Da'Vonne and James (The Asian redneck)

-2 sibs of former players on the cast (vanessa's sister??? and Cody's brother???)

-Julie will NOT read the vote totals, to encourage Wilder voting patterns (I find this hard to believe. "By a vote of.....")

EvelDick already scoffing and bitching...lol

***ETA

Also, the 12 HG are sequestered already, and were supposed to be on a live-cast stream for the reveal monday, but that was canceled until the announcement this fternoon - not live. The reason given was the Orlando terrorism, so there's a bunch of rumors that someone is related, may be exiting already...


Edited by KMInfinity, Jun 14 2016, 06:35 PM.
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Yeah, they're always in sequester (actually, always already in the house) when we first see their pictures and bios...

Don't think anybody had to be related to the Orlando tragedy for them to cancel the livecast...
(Found out last night, one of my friends - by coincidence, my almost-got-on-BB-the-same-year-Rachel-did friend - did lose a friend/ex-co-worker, somebody he'd worked on a cruise ship with a few years ago..)

I see there are Jeff-interviews-the-cast videos. Don't know if I'll watch 'em... I usually go into the first show 'blind' (except for those photos)...
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Only 12 hamsters? Isn't that less than usual?

I thought it odd that the one guy was shirtless in his picture.
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Only 12 lends credence to the vets-as-coaches thing.

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2016/06/big-brother-corey-brooks-gay-slurs/
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I'm behind in getting into BB mode this season. Haven't checked out much beyond their pics. I think Codys brother will be outed right off the bat. They look way too much alike. Vanessas sister looks like her too but not quite as much as Codys brother. I think she will be outed soon too though because once the hamsters figure out the first one they will be looking for others. One of the girls said in her write up the she avidly watches the feeds so it shouldn't be that hard. I also noticed one of the guys last name Arroyo and wondered if he might be JennCitys brother but I cant find anything in a quick search so probably not. I remember so little about her except that she slept all season lol.

Not sure how I feel about coaches, I didn't love it the first time but that season ended up ok. A lot will depend on who the coaches end up being. I can't fathom the thought of Van/Derrick in the house together. That could lead to serious exhaustion trying to watch feeds.
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Was wondering how far back the previous coaches thing was... 14, with Britney, Janelle, Boogie, and Dan (came in 2nd, Ian was the winner..).

It all blurs together after awhile. I'll have to refresh my memory on a couple of this year's returns, I'm sure...
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A new article from The Hollywood Reporter with some minor spoilers, but not about the hamsters.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/big-brother-18-house-tour-903441?utm_source=twitter
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Just coming to post that. Like the London and Nairobi rooms, HATE the airport lounge theme in the living room.

No more BoB! Good.

Corey has anti-gay slurs out there; Glenn is a super trump supporter. Oy vey.
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The London room is fun. Love the red phone box. I like the wall in the living room that makes it look like there's a plane in there with them.

Isn't there someone just about every season who has made some kind of gay slur? I wasn't offended by any his remarks, probably because I didn't feel any real hate behind them. When they introduced a gay character on The Walking Dead I couldn't even finish reading all of the hate-filled tweets.
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Dumb comments, but I agree, pretty low on the 'hate' scale. I do think less of people that casually toss around ethnic/racist/homophobic slurs, but... these things were awhile ago, maybe he's wised up since then.

Caleb was kind of an ass (and was all creepy-stalkery to that one girl), but he wasn't as 'mean' as the pre-house stuff we knew about him suggested he would be... And as the realityblurred blog post points out, CBS (and a lot of the BB audience) just LOVES Jeff, and he said horrific things...

I don't want ALL assholes in the house, but... there ARE supposed to be unlikable people in there. That's part of the fun. Big-time Trump supporter... great. Let's go.
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Running commentary...

A two hour premiere was too long. I'm only 2/3 thru and disliking more as time goes by. :P

Some interesting twists. I liked the team playoffs to boot a player.

These 4 would not be my pick of 4 returnees.

Da'Vonne's team sucks, and they pull her down into her weaknesses rather than her strengths. Too bad. I like her, but she hasn't learned how to fly UTR and play cool.

I do like Victor and Bronte (despite her voice).

Vanessa's sister Tiffany looks so much like her I swear they just had Vanessa dye her hair and go back in the House.
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Looks bad for Glenn. I'd be fine with dumb ass Cory going too. But sadly, the traditional BB frustration begins as the ones I want to go (anyone fro Da's team) will be staying.

It's weird to watch without live feed info in the mix. It won't feel like the game's really started until we are 24/7.
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When do the feeds start?

Da'vonne makes me laugh when she isn't wallowing in self-pity. She kept saying she didn't "come here to do this" but did she really think BB was going to roll out the red carpet for her to play the game however she pleased? There's twists every season, and they often suck in the early part of the season.

In Da'vonne's defense, though, Paul is really awful. He annoyed me the most of all of them.

I'm so sick of the gay caricature but I know it goes with the territory.

I groaned a little when Paulie said he had never waited so long to get picked for a game but I liked him, otherwise.

I really enjoy Nicole, and I'll be disappointed if she's the first to go, but I'd forgotten how much her voice annoys me.
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Feeds will start tomorrow night.

Okay, bring on our summer freak show.....

Season 14 (2012), Frank placed 7th out of 16. If I'd met Frank somewhere, I wouldn't immediately have recognized him, but it would tug at me, like 'I know you from somewhere..'

Season 16, Nicole placed 7th out of 16, but (as people here quickly pointed out and held against her) she had been evicted earlier and got to come back in... Paulie's brother Cody came in second.

Season 17, Da'Vonne was 16th out of 17, James came in 7th, and Tiffany's sister Vanessa came in third.

No, would not have to be told that Paulie is Cody's brother (but I wouldn't have remembered Cody's name unless I studied before going in...). And DEFINITELY wouldn't be fooled for an instant about Tiffany. Didn't James see pictures of Tiffany while Vanessa was HOH and make some amusing and quasi-inappropriate remarks about her, or was that some other guy? We met Tiffany in Van's 'family-watching-the-show' packages, didn't we?

I love Nicole.
I find Bronte, Bridgette, and Michelle attractive.
Natalie is cute but really annoying.
Michelle is kinda annoying.
I totally see that Bronte would/will bug people, but I think she's kinda charming.
I'd attach to Bridgette the most, though, I think. I like nurses.
Three teachers is kinda weird.

Paulie comes off like a jerk.
I didn't like Jozea at all.
I was going to say 'wait, I don't think Paul is that bad' but that was before I came to the competitions and how he behaved during them...

If Da'Vonne has grown and learned over the last year, it all evaporated soon after she returned to the house... Her crying at the end (happy tears 'cuz they won) was amusing, because it LOOKED like how she'd have reacted if they'd lost...

James is James. He was popular and 'a character' enough that I did figure they'd have him come back sometime, but I'm maybe a little surprised it's a back-to-back...

Natalie made me think 'Hot Rachel' a little (from UnReal, which is back as strong as last year - you watching, KMI?).


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So far I like:
Bronte
Bridgette and Nicole (go nurses!)
James

I don't like at all:
Paul
Jozea
Da'Vonne
Natalie (ish)

The rest I'll wait and see how they are after a bit.
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Bye Glenn......

Tiffany sounds so much like Vanessa it kinda makes me do a double take everytime i hear her. She looks like her but the voice and speech patterns are exactly the same. Lets just hope for my feed watching sake she doesnt talk as much as her sister did. And yes I'm almost positive James saw pics of Tiff during Vans HOHs.

I liked Nicole the first time so I'm ok with her being back. James is James, its ok too. Not really sure why we got Davonne back (and so quick). Outside of her blow-up with Audrey and figuring out the twins, I dont recall her being especially noteworthy or interesting....weird. Frank looks soooo different, is it just the haircut or something else? I know alot of people didnt like him on his season but I didn't mind him. He wasnt a great strategist but he was great in comps. He fell victim to Dans mist. He seems much quieter and somewhat smarter in the little we've seen thus far. I could have named a dozen other former hamsters I would rather have had back but I dont hate any of them so thats something I guess.

None of the newbies have impressed me yet. Victor is nice to look at. Jozea and Paul are both annoying and way too cocky. I wasnt a Cody fan and Paulie is following in his footsteps. The girls havent gotten much screentime yet so I'll reserve judgement for now. Well except helium voice who I'm almost sure will drive me batty lol.

15 mins til live feeds!
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Nicole did well on the second show, and I'm happy to see her back.

Jozea and Victor are really dumb and bad at this game.

I like that our discussion archives go back to Season 9 (!) ... Gonna refresh my memory on our thoughts on Frank during his game... http://s1.zetaboards.com/Buzz/topic/4852193/1/
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I was worried Nicole would be the first to go but once I saw they had to climb around on those little islands I figured she had an advantage.

Does Victor have a thing for blondes? His "strategy" meeting with Nicole was hilarious.

I'll have to watch the rest of the episode later.....
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Tiffany sounds so much like Vanessa it kinda makes me do a double take everytime i hear her. She looks like her but the voice and speech patterns are exactly the same. Lets just hope for my feed watching sake she doesnt talk as much as her sister did. And yes I'm almost positive James saw pics of Tiff during Vans HOHs.
Big agree. Apparently all the vets know.
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I liked Nicole the first time so I'm ok with her being back. James is James, its ok too. Not really sure why we got Davonne back (and so quick). Outside of her blow-up with Audrey and figuring out the twins, I dont recall her being especially noteworthy or interesting....weird. Frank looks soooo different, is it just the haircut or something else? I know alot of people didnt like him on his season but I didn't mind him. He wasn't a great strategist but he was great in comps. He fell victim to Dans mist. He seems much quieter and somewhat smarter in the little we've seen thus far. I could have named a dozen other former hamsters I would rather have had back but I dont hate any of them so thats something I guess.
Nicole's okay, played too emotional last time. I like James, especially his antics. I also think he has a good 'take' on the game. Day gave greeat Diary, but went too soon to really know. I like her but she can lack self awareness and so seem hypocritical I think. Apparently she's made some major inroads with the noobs. Frank seems MUCH better without Boogie. I may like him this time around.
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None of the newbies have impressed me yet....
Nope. Day is openly mocking them apparently. Careful Day... karma.
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Jozea and Victor are really dumb and bad at this game.

I like that our discussion archives go back to Season 9 (!) ... Gonna refresh my memory on our thoughts on Frank during his game... http://s1.zetaboards.com/Buzz/topic/4852193/1/
Only Season 9? Huhh. I remember posting about S6 a lot. Maye not here. Agree Joz and Vic are twits.
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Notes from the live feeds (summarizing the LF discussion on TVCH - don’t have the feeds myself. I’ll watch BBAD if anything interesting is described.) All spec, most not confirmed or 100% definite yet…

-Live feeds on and BB didn’t tell them (yet); on for half hour, then they were told…mugging for cams, silly shoutouts, introducing themselves, like the three hour ‘premiere event hasn’t happened yet. LOL

-Some of the noobs (recruits?) think they have to explain to feedsters how BB works: what slop is; how noms work, yadayada, Oy vey

-Punishment for the 2nd to last rocket team: be naked (wearing nudie tights with fake cardboard pixel coverups…apparently skimpy as there’s talk this can’t be shown on reg. TV

-A lot of them hate Jozea-even people in his “alliance”; has said lots of annoying/creepy/unpatriotic/mean stuff…

-Noobs and vets seem to be blending.

-Girl alliance of Bridget-Bronte-Natalie; House mocking them; Bridg won’t share a DOUBLE bed to respect her BF back home !!! Nat can't have boys in her room? Whaaaaa???

-Alt (hidden?) girl alliance: Zakiyah, Day, Nicole, Michelle, maybe Tiffany??? Calling themselves the New Brigade? That would be awesome.

-Debate over the vote numbers by posters, HG saying 8-3/7-4….which implies the new power might be to cut a voter (15 HG - 2 noms – HoH=12 not 11)
--------------oh wait...there are THREE noms....

-2 AM House Meeting but some deliberately not invited (to be undated)
--------the meeting appears to be a sermon of some sort from “the messiah” (Jozea) about how they're gonna play the rest of the game out. Everyone but Nicole, Michelle, Frank, and James were invited.

-Debate about Nicole’s relationship status (she’d flirty, open to showmance?). Her FB page says she’s still in a relationship with Hayden Voss, but Sucks hasn’t uncovered recent pics of the two??? But there’s this: https://mobile.twitter.com/haydenvoss_/status/745797853403037696 But Nic may be showmancing with Victor… (I liked him. Goofy kid. But maybe he’s a creep?) Victor and Natalie already showmanced and broke up! Tears and drama and the whole nine yards…

-Zakiyah may be showmancing with Paulie.

-PAUL is also nominated? There’s three noms? There’s a nomination COUCH instead of two chairs.

-2 AM House Meeting but some deliberately not invited (UPDATE)
--------meeting seems to be about how to get Paulie out (Silly Nicole, PAWNS GO HOME.) Day seems to have wormed her way into the noobs, she's at the meeting??? but really playing them, laughing at them behind their backs, snickering when they think they have control. (Apparently they are counting some people as “with them” – like Tiffany, who Day knows is NOT.) Big Blindside coming???? This is one of the differences with Survivor: a 3 day turnaround makes blindsides more possible, whereas the veto and week long wait make flipflops likely on BB.


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KMI - We talked back then, yes, but lost some stuff along the way (server crash...)
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The pixel coverups are kinda skimpy but I dont think they are skimpy enough to not be shown on tv.

Jozea is a total tool. Everyone hates him and Vic is not far behind on the hate totem pole. Those 2 along with Paul think they are running the show....they are stupid! I call them the 3 stooges. Paul who was the most offensive on tv is the least offensive of the 3 overall.

The 5 girl alliance is called fatal 5 Tiffany, Day, Nicole, Zakiyah, and Michelle. It is a smaller offshoot of the 8 person that also includes James, Frank and Corey. Paulie is loosely affiliated with them but hes too busy romancing all the girls and looking for a bromance. The girls seem pretty solid for once and if they stay tight we could have our first successful all girl alliance. Most of the house knows about Tiffany being Vans sister.

The 3 girl alliance Natalie, Bronte, Bridgette (powderpuff girls) are silly and are basically planning to float to the end. Bronte and Natalie really trying to go the showmance route. Though they swore the will not vote for a guy to win. I dont see any of them sticking around for very long.

Frank seems to be a totally different player this time around. Hes literally unrecognizable in every way. It seems he won the new comp maybe called "roadkill" (they arent allowed to talk about it yet) and thats how Paul got nominated.

I think Nic/Hayden are over. Someone (Vic or Jozea?) last night referred to him as her ex-lover. She has asked everyone not to mention him and thanked all the others for not bringing it up and got pretty upset when whichever stooge brought it up did so. She also referred to herself as single multiple times.

The 2 am meeting never really happened. It was all very silly and nobody really knew what it was about or who was invited or not. Jozea then decided he was too tired to do it so they canceled it. I have a feeling it was supposed to be a Devin type of meeting, all bluster no substance.

They have picked players for the veto comp. but comp hasnt happened yet.

This group has potential to be interesting so far.
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Thanks jbrr! LOLOL @ the failed House meeting.

Does it seem the vets and the noobs are still separate factions or not?
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The 3 stooges are still very anti-vets and want nothing to do with them. Everyone else has blended pretty well though. The powderpuff girls were on the newbies stay together train until last night but they are realizing that train is coming off the tracks so they were making plans to befriend the vets more to aid in their floating strategy. I think the 4 vets are still a very strong core 4 (Day, James, Nic are especially tight) but the newbies are making inroads and vice versa.

Paul won the veto. Much chit chat about the replacement 3rd nom. Some know Frank won the roadkill comp, some do not.
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Jozea finally had his meeting it was dumb. A very awkward game of truth or dare happened. Lots of talk of the powderpuffs being bullied for their votes. Currently Paulie is calling Jozea out on the meeting and his bs. Paulie is smarter than he lets on, hes handling this like a seasoned pro. The stooges still think they are running the show and they are totally clueless. Jozea really might be the biggest d-bag to ever play this game. I really hate him and not in a love to hate kind of way. I hope he doesnt get wind that the blindside is coming, that will be FUN.
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Comments on TVCH are that in general, except for Tiff and Paulie (who had sibs coaching them before they came in, and probably at least watched their sib season closely) these hamsters are the most clueless to ever play the game. They not only don't know the nuances of how to play the game, they don't know very basic rules and patterns - such as thinking Production"has to" give them food/alcohol when they request it, Paul thinks they can demand Production hold the live eviction Sunday because Thursday is too long to wait? lol

Is that your impression? Geez.
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Yeah pretty much. The 3 stooges are especially clueless, Jozea didnt even realize they vote to evict someone, he thought they vote for the person they want to keep. He has admitted the only thing he watched was a Frankie compilation video on youtube.

Other than the vets and sibs Michelle is the only other person who really knows the game. Zakiyah (who is probably one of the prettiest hamsters ever), and Corey are being coached/helped along by the vets. Zakiyah could be a real sleeper threat this season, I like her low key game so far, she gets along with everyone and she is soaking everything up like a sponge.

The powderpuffs seem to have watched some past seasons in sequester. They are all three playing a classic floater game. Not the best strategy but at least its a strategy. Bridgette is making slight inroads with the vets even though she will be the replacement nom. I think she will last the longest of the 3.

I always forget how long the first week seems to be. I really want to see a blindside on Thurs. just to see the idiots dumbfounded faces.
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Thnx jbrr. That confirms my impressions reading around. I read Da'Vonne apparently came right out and said how lucky the vets are to have been put into the House with such clueless players. Oy vey.
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Yeah all the vets have expressed that sentiment. They got a very lucky draw.

Not much noteworthy stuff today. They got alcohol for the 2nd straight day. Paul got drunk.

Tiffany not only looks and sounds like Vanessa she is playing the EXACT same game. Its deja vu. Same erratic emotional behavior, using the same phrases, questioning people the same way, setting up her human chess pieces the same way (michelle=liz, nic=shelli, paulie=austin, day=audrey, frank=clay, she's still looking for her steve..maybe james) its all very clear. Its really crazy to watch. Day is starting to see it and there is a slight crack developing in that alliance.

Hot and heavy showmance brewing between Zakiyah and Paulie. Corey/Nicole have crushes on each other, no showmance just yet but lots of grade school flirting.

Jozea seems to sense he needs to dial it back a bit so he was pretty subdued tonight. Though he is still clueless on what is happening and thinks hes safe.

I'm enjoying Day 2.0. Shes playing a much cleaner game this time around. She also seems to be having more fun and that makes it more fun to watch.
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