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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 28 2016, 09:10 PM (736 Views) | |
| Dax | Apr 28 2016, 09:10 PM Post #1 |
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Okay. This schedule is kinda complicated - Tuesday, 5/3 - 1 Monday, 5/9 - 2 Tuesday, 5/10 - 3 Monday, 5/16 - 4 Tuesday, 5/17 - 5 Monday, 5/23 - 6 Tuesday, 5/24 - 7 & 8 Monday, 5/30 - 9 Tuesday, 5/31 - 10 Tuesday, 6/7 - 11 Tuesday, 6/14 - 12 Tuesday, 6/21 - 13, series finale. Total of 103 - 23/22/23/22/13 |
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| KMInfinity | Apr 29 2016, 05:54 PM Post #2 |
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Thank god for dvr series recording... |
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| Dax | May 2 2016, 02:22 PM Post #3 |
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http://www.tvinsider.com/article/87858/person-of-interest-bosses-talk-creative-freedom-in-the-final-season/ |
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| Krystal | May 4 2016, 04:53 PM Post #4 |
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Really wacky. |
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| Krystal | May 6 2016, 07:37 PM Post #5 |
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I watch the first one and I guess if it wasn't the last season then there werent only 13 I wouldn't be watching at all. When shows leave so much time between seasons I sort of forget about them and lose interest in them. That's the case with this show plus the fact that I really didn't like the constant storyline about the computers instead of saving a different person each week. I guess I'm most concerned of what will happen to the dog and how the dog takes care of itself when they are gone for extended periods of time. Other than that I won't be sorry to see the show |
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| Dax | May 6 2016, 08:02 PM Post #6 |
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Premiere was okay. Interested to see it out... Hope it concludes well. |
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| Gatekeeper | May 7 2016, 07:40 AM Post #7 |
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I thought the premiere was crazy. A little bit too out there and not realistic but then again I was never promised realistic. Love when Harold had his flashbacks with the machine. Love Root kicking ass all over town. Is Shaw coming back for the big save? |
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| Dax | May 7 2016, 10:38 AM Post #8 |
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Shaw will be back, but I think it's six or seven in... Of course, that's not that far away, with the double-pumping... |
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| KMInfinity | May 7 2016, 03:03 PM Post #9 |
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I loved it. :P Non stop tension and oppressive, omnipresent bigbrothering. That scene with Root on the train and the individualized targeting was, whoa. And not too far fetched either. See, that's why I do like it. it's actually not so very far away from reality, rather than 'out there' SF AFAIC. |
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| Dax | May 27 2016, 05:35 PM Post #10 |
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#6 - Hey, a That Guy Was On My Soap - Tom Wiggin (Kirk Anderson on ATWT) was the father of the bride... Recognized him right away, but wasn't positive 'til I heard his voice... |
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| KMInfinity | May 30 2016, 08:06 AM Post #11 |
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Pretty much general consensus on POI fanboards that S5 is kicking ass. I love the actual science that's working its way into the backstories, and love the moral dilemmas everyone is facing. So cool to have people discussing the great filter on TV fanboards. That's why I love the internet. Spoilers thru 508 - ReAssortment I do hope Fusco finds out what's what and doesn't die. Soooo glad Elias isn't really dead - I hope he has a big part in the end. I've resigned myself to John probably dying. Harold going dark is something I am looking forward to seeing, except everyone is expecting it will happen because something bad happens to Grace. :-( I'm assuming they won't bring Shaw back just to kill Root so I expect they will have a "happy" ending, unless it's a Butch and Sundance finale. I will miss this show a lot. I rewatched some of Mr. Robot and I've decided POI is much better, overall, because MR depends too much on shaky science and the unreliable narrator storytelling (which was fine in movie length with Fight Club) but we'll see how S2 works out. Nothing else on network/basic cable is as good as POI, imo. |
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| Dax | May 30 2016, 12:25 PM Post #12 |
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I was glad Elias is still alive. Yeah, don't blame Fusco for being so annoyed with the rest... I'm interested to see how it all turns out - five left... I've still been a little bored or less impressed with some of the numbers-of-the-week, but I want to see Team Machine beat Samaritan and Greer... I'm not sure anybody on our side will die (agree Grace would be a big catalyst for Finch to go darker, really let loose), because I kinda think they'll wanna leave it open for 'potentially more'. After losing Carter for real, Shaw for awhile, and having recently done fake-outs for Elias and Shaw's #4-shooting-of--John-and-Greer-before-the-reveal-of-what-the-title-meant, they don't HAVE to kill or 'kill' a good guy, I don't think - they've played those cards already.... Hope we see Zoe. |
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| KMInfinity | Jun 1 2016, 06:25 PM Post #13 |
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Spoilers for 509 and 510... Okay, I guess I should know better than to get too effusive. I thought 509 was weak in some ways, especially the reunion with Shaw, and Fusco's enlightenment. Both of those felt like times when GL would choke a major payoff. Sigh... And 510 felt really weird, very manipulative. First, I did NOT like Elias' story. It seemed like much ado about nothing in the long run. Why bring him back for that? It seems like classic "fridging." http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge see p. 3 & 4 I also didn't like the metaphysical discussion about the simulations vs reality. Not in the middle of a car chase. I can suspend disbelief but that was wacked out. Lots of SF books and shows have dealt with this idea without being so pedantic - I guess the writers thought the car-shoot-out would distract form the pedantry. Also, I think they need to clarify a bit more exactly what Root is hoping will happen when/if Harold "lets the machine defend herself." I *think* I understand Harold's self imposed rules and why he has them, but this has always been a gray area. Finally....this looks like the end of Root? Is it really a Butch and Sundance ending? The odds are rising for that... |
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| Dax | Jun 6 2016, 01:54 AM Post #14 |
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9 - Just glad they finally told Fusco, and the Gang's Back Together moment at the end was alright... 10 - Very silly action, very silly script (I did like Emerson in his last big monologue, though). Sorry to see Elias go. Sorry to see Root go. (Whoops, that optimistic thinking that maybe none of them HAD to die...) I immediately had the same thought Sepinwall did, that it's kinda funny that by closing out the series as the voice of The Machine, it's crazy similar to Acker's Fred and Illyria... |
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| KMInfinity | Jun 7 2016, 04:45 PM Post #15 |
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Yeah Whedonesque posters commented on that right away. Fred/Root each become "gods." nd yes, Harold's big monologue was an awesome moment. When he echoes Root's line, "I wasn't talking to you".... chills. there are some fans who really really liked the episodes and when i read their take on it, I do see there were lots of great things included, but the overall bad for me outweighed the good. Edited by KMInfinity, Jun 7 2016, 04:49 PM.
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| Dax | Jun 7 2016, 06:05 PM Post #16 |
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My Dad especially griped about the 'suspension of disbelief' required for the action in #10... yeah, but... that IS kinda the show. More extreme and silly than usual, but we bought into it a long time ago... I definitely don't agree with your earlier 'better than Mr. Robot' (or that POI is better than a lot of basic cable shows..). Even if you're taking away points for the Fight Club similarities... it's not like Dexter 6 where we were supposed to be shocked but we all knew weeks ahead of time and it just didn't work... here, we WERE supposed to be onto it, and then hey-there-IS-a-surprise, re: Darlene. I think it's a great show (and it's funny that I was considering not even bothering with it, but you pushed it...). I like POI, but it's very much like a Batman comic book. That's not overly derogatory coming from me (I like Batman, and comic books), but you know what I mean? It's intelligent, but John and Shaw are superheroes, and most of the villains are big and broad. Yeah, there's deep and smart stuff in it, but there's been plenty of dumb stuff, too. Emerson, though. Love him. Hope he's not off-screen long... |
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| Dax | Jun 8 2016, 01:29 AM Post #17 |
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#11 - Nice to hear The Machine and Harold having a conversation. I wonder what voice Root used to hear via her cochlear implant (that we didn't get to hear).. Fun to have ex-numbers reappear as assets... Have always wondered 'so... only NY irrelevant numbers are eligible for saving? What about outside of NY?'... |
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| 2buddy4u | Jun 22 2016, 07:06 AM Post #18 |
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Even though to me the show wasn't the same after Carter died, I watched every episode. Have to say I was happy with the ending. It was one of the most original shows I've seen in a long time. |
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| Dax | Jun 22 2016, 01:31 PM Post #19 |
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I'm fine with the ending, except #13 repeated a bunch of the same story beats that we'd just seen in 12... High stakes, but it always feels like they can cheat pre-existing rules and pull something else out, you know?... Viruses and back-ups and satellites and... So of course The Machine would return (and who's to say Samaritan couldn't also, really?) Nice to see Harold reunite with Grace... Wouldn't have minded hearing some of that conversation... Glad everybody survived (well, except John, but his story seemed the most finished...). The Machine really does seem to have more than just Root's voice, so it kinda feels like she's still 'there'... If they ever get an opportunity to do more, I'd watch it, but I won't really 'root' for its return, either... |
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| Dax | Jun 22 2016, 03:40 PM Post #20 |
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http://deadline.com/2016/06/person-of-interest-series-finale-post-mortem-reese-dies-follow-up-spinoffs-pilot-opening-jonah-nolan-1201776284/ Part 2 http://deadline.com/2016/06/person-of-interest-finale-jonah-nolan-interview-x-files-batman-taraji-p-henson-greg-plageman-1201775530/ Part 1 |
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| KMInfinity | Jun 22 2016, 05:42 PM Post #21 |
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I agree #13 repeated some of #12, but some of that plot was intentional (I've read) and made sense to me because it was paralleling the way viruses work, by "adapting" and repetitively targeting and attacking. So the constant one-upmanship reflected the way, for example, you keep closing windows that keep opening on your desktop...sort of like when those pop up ads open faster and faster and more and more. Both Samaritan and The Machine were in survival mode - so imagine they were flies in your kitchen, and you are trying to kill them. The more you swat at them, the more they buzz around, just out of reach... I was sad John died. For a minute I thought there would be a twist and it WOULD be Harold instead. I actually think that might have been better. Harold was always the geek who never wavered or changed compared to John, Root, Shaw, and Fusco. (He got dark at the end, and I loved John's comment to him... PP "You've changed. You're scary. I like it." I do think having Harold with Grace sort of contradicted the reason he stayed away from her to begin with. The Machine is back, and it's his baby. Shaw and Fusco need him as the contact with her. imo. Lots of good conversations. More after I've read stuff. |
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| Dax | Jun 22 2016, 07:10 PM Post #22 |
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It did seem like after ALL they went through and as IMPOSSIBLE as it was for Machine to win over Samaritan (the count on the simulations - ha!)... the end of 12 looked a little 'easy'. Still felt repetitive, though, all the 'sacrifice' talk, and the frame story (can still work sometimes, but I'm kinda biased against them now, as it's overused... used to be fun on West Wing and Alias, but... not fun any more...), and Root's narration repeating (almost in full) several times... I didn't like that... Machine calls Shaw. Harold may not know that she's back yet, when he goes to see Grace... Shaw has Bear. Surprised he left Fusco with so small of a goodbye, though... |
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