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The Good Wife; Season 7
Topic Started: Oct 5 2015, 06:02 PM (3,900 Views)
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Krystal >> I thought this first epi was pretty good, although I find it hard to believe that Alicia would be scurrying around doing some low level court work. Still with the 3,000 suits though...

MM is a good addition to the cast. I will be interested in seeing how this plays out. I felt so bad for Eli, Peter is such an ass and could have handled that one better.
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edited because my brand new laptop is a POS. :rant:
Edited by KMInfinity, Oct 5 2015, 07:31 PM.
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I'm a little lost. I don't remember the details of the ending, just remember being pretty disenchanted with it all. I agree with Krystal, Alicia scraping for bond cases seems silly, though I can sadly attest to the inexorable machine indifference of the law at that level.

Is there a good quick recap somewhere, especially how Alicia's 'election fixing' ended, and how she ended up out in the cold from Florrick-Agos-Lockhart. I thought she proved she DIDN'T have anything to do with election rigging.

Maybe since I was out of the loop I wasn't very engaged. I thought the CotW was dumb, and the stuff with Eli weak. I did like seeing Margo Martindale and that could become something, but right now it just seems way too far fetched that Peter could be on the national stage with Alicia as 'the good wife' given their separate lives.

I did like Lucca, despite the stupid stuff with the Chagall.
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Yes I find it rather unbelievable that he could run for president with them living apart. I don't understand why people can't be divorced and still run for president but it seems expected that they are married and even if they're not happy they have to act like they are. They may be setting mm to be sort of a villain in this or anagitation at least. Anyhow I was glad to see her added to the caf cast. I don't care much what is going on at the Old Firm in the least I see of Carrie will be good for me
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I also wouldn't mind a recap of what happened in the last couple of episodes last season. Alicia won but then she didn't. If she were humiliated wouldn't Peter be is well?

I do agree that the court systems on those lower levels really sucks. People are in jail 4 years because they can't raise a $500 bond it's very sad.
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I haven't watched the premiere yet.

Margulies lied the other day... Panjabi tweeted a correction...

http://www.vulture.com/2015/10/julianna-margulies-archie-panjabi-feud.html#
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This sums up season 6 http://www.bustle.com/articles/113670-recap-the-good-wife-season-6-before-season-7-premieres-changes-everything

I'm definitely taking Panjabi's side in this little feud.

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So I liked the premier. I did not understand why Alicia would start all over with bond cases. That really didn't make a lot of sense. I guess it's because her reputation was shattered last season by being fired as State's Attorney for voter fraud. If that is the case how the heck is Peter still coming out smelling like roses? Also have a hard time seeing Peter as Vice-President. I guess after watching 'House of Cards' that I have a better understanding just how corrupt politics are but still.

I couldn't believe what Peter did to Eli. I love Eli. Peter is now at the top of my shit list but I think he's always been there so that's nothing new.

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KMI, is this 'another' new laptop of the same one you've been messing with? My new laptop arrives today. I'm so excited. Early Christmas for moi! :wub:
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This is the replacement laptop. Dell #2 - sucks like #1. Yiu cannot believe the runaround I'm getting from the tech - they want me to take a day off work for the in-home tech to work on it. W---T----F!

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ETA

read the recap, thanks Gate.

Forgot JD Morgan is coming on board. <3

Forgot Finn is history. That's fine, he won't be missed. That was fumbled from the getgo.

I think it's an UO, but I like Cary way better than Canning. I just don't like the character at all. They rub the 'devil' soullessness too much, too cartoony in a bad way for me.

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I have no recollection of the Dem lawyer (HER lawyer?) announcing she was involved in the fraud. I hope that lie is corrected. That's pretty unbelievable to me.

So why is everyone at Florrick-Agos-Lockhart mad at her? Still unclear about that.

Once upon a time I really liked Diane and thought she was a well developed, shaded character.

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This is the replacement laptop. Dell #2 - sucks like #1. You cannot believe the runaround I'm getting from the tech - they want me to take a day off work for the in-home tech to work on it. W---T----F!

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So why is everyone at Florrick-Agos-Lockhart mad at her? Still unclear about that.
Sorry about the laptop. I honestly think the extra $ for the MacBooks are worth it. I also get insurance because GOD only knows what can happen with a laptop. If you every decide to switch get a 'refurbished' MacBook from Apple. They are just as good and they are basically new after they do all the certification. My last 2 computers from Apple are refurbished.

http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro

Here is an in-depth article about refurbished Apple products:

http://www.payetteforward.com/should-i-buy-a-refurbished-macbook-pro-ipad-mini-ipad-air-or-apple-product/

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OK here is a great recap of what went down with Diane and Alicia.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/04/26/the-good-wife-recap-season-6-episode-20-the-deconstruction/

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Cush Jumbo (Luca Quinn) is a new full regular. I like her.

The Peter/Eli break-up is cool. Love Margo Martindale.

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The recap was very helpful. Thanks for posting it. I hadn't recalled what happened with the Democratic lawyer at all. Maybe by then I was sort of sick of the whole storyline but I do recall seeing it. I also didn't remember why Finn left. The character was okay but I really didn't see him with Alicia.

I still find the business with the common court or whatever Alicia was involved with pretty unbelievable. I did not also remember the business about Canning's wife. Of all the law firms in Chicago why would he have her work there. There certainly must be law firms that are not in the same area of business. So that seems rather contrived. In any case it's interesting that he's trying to hire Alicia know and I hope that she will go to work for him.

At least the show is starting off with some promise for the season
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Finn didn't really 'go' anywhere (and we might still see him, but as a recurring, not a regular). He turned down Alicia's offer to partner up (professionally, but at least part of his reasoning was likely that there is some romantic tension between them, and he's involved again with his ex-wife).

I should probably look at a recap, too, re: election 'scandal' and Alicia/Diane/Cary why-she-didn't-go-back--why-they-didn't-want-her-back because I'm a little fuzzy on it, too, but... I remember it wasn't satisfying, that whatever reasons there were didn't feel organic so much as 'well, because'. The plot was reset THIS way because... They felt like it. So maybe I won't click on those links. I get where we are now, and it's 'fine'... But yeah. I recall that it was disappointing, the how-they-got-there.

Nobody's talking 'final season', but I think it very probably is. The Kings have spoken often of a seven year plan, and the titles have come full circle (Seasons 1 and 7 - one-word titles; 2 and 6, two words; 3 and 5, three words; 4, four words).
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Jeffrey Dean Morgan a full regular (billed second-to-last, with the 'with') as Jason Crouse. Cool. I like him.
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LOVED JDM.

Hated everything else about this episode. Way way too many 'pat' solutions to fake problems created by the writers for fake drama. This was a shark jumping episode for me.
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I just watch for cheap entertainment, to be honest. I also loved JDM although I also didn't want Alicia to end up choosing him. I don't need to see her have another love interest, especially not one that reminds me too much of Peter.

That said, I don't know if I mentioned this before but my theory is that Peter/Alicia truly reuniting is the end game, I think.

I also really like Margo Martindale. She plays her character very well. It's always the same character but she does it well.

Here's the thing: I like all of the actors quite a lot. I don't necessarily enjoy all of the characters. Or the plots. Remember that I've only watched the last couple of seasons with maybe a random partial episode from earlier seasons. I really disliked Will and had an extremely hard time imagining Alicia being even tempted by him.

I like Canning but that's pretty much entirely because I really like MJF and am sorry that his series didn't get past the first season. He's charming, even when he's playing evil. I am glad that Howard Lyman was less the incompetent senile old man for just a bit, getting in some good digs against Cary. I like Cary ok, but he seems to have exactly 2 expressions, one of which is a bemused smirk. David Lee is easy to hate, which is his real function on the show.

A lot feels contrived and artificial. Alicia needed to choose Amanda as her investigator as a substitute for Kalinda but then Amanda had to be shown to be not Kalinda so Alicia could go with the hunky enigmatic older male detective who may be double crossing her.

I am ok with all of the machinations for plot. I just can see them very well. Which makes me think that I'm intended to see them because I'm not that clever.

I miss seeing Diane and miss seeing Diane and Alicia on the same side. Don't miss Alicia's son at all. Her daughter is great but there is no way she came from Alicia/Peter.
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I love JDM. I'll be happy watching this season just to see him. :wub: :P :wub:
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I also thought the plotline about Amanda was pretty contrived.

What really crack me up was the reference to the movie it follows. That movie got good reviews so we rented it and I thought it really sucked. It was supposed to be some new horror classic but I thought it was just another mediocre cheaply made film
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Yeah, but wasn't that the film that Eli was watching obsessively?

I rarely like horror films.
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I love good ones but they are really rare it is good science fiction. It was the one that he was watching. Like I said it got good reviews including reviews from the New York Times and I thought it was really stupid. I wouldn't waste anybody's time by telling them to see it.
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Only a few minutes into this one and I already like it because it's funny... Alicia's reaction to finding Howard in her home... Howard flirting with Jackie in the elevator... Ruth showing Eli his tiny new office...

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Yeah this was much better than last week. CotW was better, and character stuff better too.

One caveat - once again Diane is convicting Alicia without ever hearing her side of the issue. that's starting to piss me off. They need to address Diane's unconscious anti-feminism despite her professed views - I am assuming the writers are aware of it, what with the intern interview in this episode as the ironic counterpoint to her treatment of Alicia, but I think the topic needs to move out of the subtext and become the text.

http://deborahmay.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/madeleine-albright-quote-480x340.jpg

I am out of the loop with Taylor Swift, Jennifer Lawrence, and Fey and Poehler, so I guess I need some pop culture catch-up since it looks to be actually shaping culture. :P
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Yeah, I liked the case, and the comedy continued (Veronica and Alicia on the cooking show was fun, but rushed a bit), but I didn't like that Diane/Alicia is again set back by something dumb... Misheard conversation, jump to conclusion...
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The intern not wanting to work was accurate I think. I have heard many complaints from people trying to hire younger workers who don't want to stress themselves out by working hard. The complaints have been about male and female workers however. Yet they still want to go to the top and make the big salaries. I think to a large degree this is because their parents spoiled them and insisted the teachers to give them an a no matter what they did. They were told they did a good job or just breathing.

I to find it annoying that Alicia and Diane go through these spats without really talking to one another and clearing the air.

I wonder what is going on with the elder romance there? Is this for real or just to use Peters mother for her connections.
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Looked more genuine than not... Howard lucked out with Jackie's connection and brought in a big client... but he was interested in her immediately, so I didn't see it as his 'using' her, at all... That she helped him was a bonus.
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Looked more genuine than not... Howard lucked out with Jackie's connection and brought in a big client... but he was interested in her immediately, so I didn't see it as his 'using' her, at all... That she helped him was a bonus.
I also think it was Jackie's way of being in any kind of relationship: trading connections and using her ability to do so as power. It's something she knows she can bring to the table.

I kind of like this older romance, to be honest. I don't like Jackie. I don't like Howard much. But still, I can't help but think it's kind of great that he's sticking it to the younger guns, even a little.

Of course they are right. He should take emeritus status. He is much more a liability than an asset. In real life, I'd be right on board with getting rid of him. But this is entertainment, so I can enjoy the pokes.
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It was a really good way to show a different side to often unlikable and antagonistic (Jackie) or ridiculous (Howard) characters.. To each other, they seemed pretty cool.

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... We were just talking about physician-assisted suicide...

Shame Alicia's client's Mom was guilty... Looked like a great class-action against the dept. store...

Lot of quick compression at the end of Diane's story, and it's a shame we couldn't get to see the reactions in bond court when Alicia's client took the plea, after all... A lot going on in this one, and none of the scenes had any time to breathe...

I like the little background bits we got on Crouse.

Jackie's codename is 'Raptor'. That's funny.

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Although it wasn't my favorite episode certainly was a pertinent subject. I just don't understand people not wanting physician assisted suicide or at least the ability to take a comfortable way out and not have to suffer until your body just breaks down. I've seen too many people die of cancer in horrible pain just eating them alive. So I don't know how much money it would take there's not enough in the world for me to take the side of a legal case against it.

It was good when I was doing the expert witness stuff that I could pick and choose my cases. I would review a case and if I thought there really was malpractice then I would take it and if I thought it was just something silly or a misunderstanding I wouldn't. I could never work for an insurance company where I had to defend everyone who came my way. Or I couldn't be involved in a case unless I believed in it.

There are still some things about the show that I don't like but I certainly like this season so far way better than last season.
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Good to see Ron Raines as this week's bad guy.

Really liking JDMorgan.

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Matt didn't recognize Ron Raines until I insisted it was him. I might have missed it at first without your keen eyes, Dax.

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