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The Good Wife; Season 6
Topic Started: Sep 20 2014, 03:55 PM (2,818 Views)
Krystal
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I really don't like that this whole season is about Cary (mostly) and I think the sl is really trumped up and cannot happen. Maybe in a really corrupt place, maybe, but not even...

I wonder what they will do with Alicia's running? I don't think she can win then keep the dynamics of the law practice, so I don't think she will. I think a third party may win. God, what a bunch of cut throats! This I believe. Look at the national election. People take snips of what you said years ago and magnify it, even worse now with the Internet.

Like I said, I could never so it, the things I have said (and even written) in the past, let alone my losing my temper with idiots. My hsb could run for something but they'd have to drug me :)

Anyhow, that part of the show, I like more.

The business between the women (in real life) Kalinda and Alicia, well I can see the Juliania resenting the attention that Archie is now getting. She was total princess before, and now she has a runner up, as glamorous in a different kind of way...

The woman who is Peter's new assistant was on Boss, right? I can see an affair coming there...

Edited by Krystal, Nov 4 2014, 07:52 PM.
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It's hardly all about Cary (Alicia-in-politics is getting more time, I think). I like the storyline, and don't find it any more unrealistic than anything else they've ever done... some implausibilities here and there, sure, but it's totally keeping in line with the corrupt Chicago they've been depicting over the last five years...

Margulies has always seemed way too professional to me to be pulling 'diva' shit on a co-star, but again... there must be SOME reason they aren't working together, or... you know, they would be. In this one, I was wondering if the Cary/Kalinda '100 feet' restriction was a meta joke...

Yes, Connie Nielsen was on Boss.
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Krystal
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I am really getting tired of the Cary stuff. I don't like this season all that much.
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When is the winter break?
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#10 is on Sunday (23rd). Then it'll be off 'til 1/4.
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Ugh. I hate split seasons. I really hate split seasons. That said: I'm not that wild about this season. I don't like the political campaign stuff very much, although I am glad to see David Hyde Pierce anytime and particularly like him in this role. I hate the idea of Alicia having an affair with Finn, which we all know is coming. I mean, really, just: no. I also am really tired of the whole drug dealer stuff and Cary has never been that high on my list of favorite characters. Do we really need Peter having another affair? I mean: it's assumed, right? And the thing is: whenever Alicia and Peter are written in a scene together, it is obvious that they are still very much in love with each other, despite all of the hurts and betrayals. So why not just get over those hurts and betrayals? I think I am just getting too cranky in my old age.
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It's not really a split season. Most of the network shows take most of December off. With TGW, only once have they had 11 aired by New Years... once 9... every other time, 10. I prefer consecutive runs (here, we got ten-in-a-row) to two-weeks-on-then-a-week-off-then-a-week-on-then... 22 shows in a 35 week period mean there have to be 13 weeks without shows...

I'm enjoying David Hyde Pierce here.

I don't mind that Alicia and Finn will likely be a romantic coupling.

Though it's been suspected a time or five (Eli's always standing watch...), this (with Ramona) is actually only the FIRST time in the series that we've SEEN Peter in an extramarital relationship (but it's not 'cheating', as Alicia re-defined their marriage last season). The hookers (and Kalinda) were all pre-show...

>> whenever Alicia and Peter are written in a scene together, it is obvious that they are still very much in love with each other, despite all of the hurts and betrayals.

I don't think she's in love with him. She LOVES him, sure, but 'in love'... nah. 'Politics' keeps them married more than 'love' (or 'the kids'... I don't think Zach and Grace have any rooting interest in Mom & Dad being together any more...).

And Peter may or may not be in love with her (harder to tell... feel like I 'know' Alicia a lot better because we spend so much more time with her), but I think he's probably 'content' with moving into a new sexual relationship, and that there's 'freedom' in not feeling guilty about it (this time...). I think it would be interesting if HE wanted a divorce because he'd fallen in love with someone else.
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That is pretty much the normal winter break but I also hate split seasons especially like they are doing with HOW next year.

I don't like this season much either. I have been complaining about the Sl constantly. I think it is unrealistic and I also don't like Cary. In fact I wouldn't care if he left the show.

I really don't like Peter either though. I don't care who either of them ends up with.
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Cosigning tgir's post, except the part about not liking Cary. I am tired of the convoluted storyline, but like him and would like to see him in more CotW stuff. I do think that 'being in love' is different from "loving' someone, and yet I do think Alicia and Peter still have a bond that pulls them together above and beyond the politics and their history and in the end may only really be happy together.

In the "Goggins Spotting" dept I did not realize who Prady was until this week. :$
Edited by KMInfinity, Nov 18 2014, 09:25 PM.
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Seriously? Forgivable if you never WATCHED Frasier, but not otherwise...

You know who plays Castro, right?

(Crystal was never good at names, but - after being with me for awhile... - she did get better and better at being able to say that ____ was 'that guy'... and it's fun how some people were always Who They First Were, even if they're arguably better known for a later role... Victor Garber could have been 'SpyDaddy' from Alias, but nope, she'd always say 'The Guy That Built The Titanic' when she'd see him...)
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Agree. I think Alicia and Peter love each other in a long standing fashion but I don't think they are in love anymore. I wonder if Peter can love anyone except for sex. I think Alicia is capable of a long term relationship but I don't see Finn being it.

8 like the dynamic of the cast and I prefer there being less of a story about any one character. At least if this was a less unbelievable story but it is a stretch. Very weak season.
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I do feel sorry for Peter's assistant.
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My case for Alicia and Peter still being on love: he was clearly,clearly wounded when she suggested/insisted on the open marriage. It hurt him in a way that it would not if they only shared an old long standing love. Last season (actually the first season I watched) Alicia clearly takes strength whenever Peter does something to protect her. This season: she was more relaxed, confident, stronger when he showed up for her; he showed up for her because he couldn't let it just be Finn who endorsed her: love, not ego. Also last episide when they talked about how they met in the interview, it clearly brought up memories and deeper feelings than either realized.

I think they are in love but too hurt and scared to admit it even to themselves. Finn and the assistant will just be distractions to protect them from the possibility of being hurt again.

I don't feel sorry for anyone whe gets involved with someone who is married. No matter what the 'understanding ' is.
Edited by tgir, Nov 19 2014, 01:26 AM.
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I do, I don't expect people to live without sex, even through the pretense of a marriage,

They are possessive of each other, not loving. When one has an affair the other strikes out and gets jealous. Most people who have had children together have some good memories of past time, but it is past time, not current love. I can think of some good moments with my ex, and even with some of the relationships that ended in quite an ugly fashion. But that is what they were, past moments.
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I don't get this staying together because of politics, or whatever. Why can't people be divorced? Do we really want hypocrisy of a marriage even though the people do not get along?

Peter started out being with a prostitute, if I recall. No excuse for that as Alicia did not seem to be turning him down for sex...Alicia was humilitated, Who could blame her. She should have left. Then she has this torrid affair with Will, she loved him I think...and Peter was livid. Now he is seeing his assistant and Alicia is jealous. They are both like children.

In the meantime, I know Alicia had to act like her relationship was fab for the film crew, but she was pouring it on for the asssitant as well. Very cruel. I can't see her wanting Peter, in fact I dislike Peter so much I would much prefer a piece of machinery to him :)

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>>>>>Seriously? Forgivable if you never WATCHED Frasier, but not otherwise...

Um. Weee-eeelll. I watched Frasier, and watch reruns sometimes if I have insomnia at 2 AM. So I guess I am hell-bent. :P

I didn't recognize Castro right away, a couple episodes in I did.
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I do think there's a pretty large difference between Fringe's Observer and, say, Annie T's skeevy agent on Treme.
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I never saw Frasier either.
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In my defense, I really am someone who immerses. If the show/book is ANY good, I totally am in that 'suspended disbelief' zone and am not thinking about the fact that I'm watching a fictional work with actors. :D
Edited by KMInfinity, Nov 21 2014, 08:24 PM.
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Krystal
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Sometimes I will overlook a lot of crap if I like a show too.
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I think my view of Alicia/Peter is really helped along because I only started watching last season so I never saw the other stuff re: prostitutes, etc. Also, I have been a huge Chris Noth fan since his Law and Order days..

I actually refused to watch the show for years because of the premise: the political wife who stands by her cheating man.
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I didn't like the premise either, but the cast was good so I got hooked early on. Though the early Alicia was a doormat. I liked the way the character has developed.
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The daughter is an idiot.

Anyone think Bishop will have Kalinda killed off? That would be her exit from the show?

I would have taken Bishop's deal in Spain if it was me.
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I was thinking maybe Kalinda kills Bishop, and gets outta dodge. Then she can come back for a 'special episode' if she wants.

It's all sort of too unbelievable to me.
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I don't know. Part of me feels like Kalinda can't be killed (you know, she's a SUPERHERO!), but I wouldn't expect to see her back next season (regardless of whether or not her let's-presume-it-goes-in-the-fall Fox show survives beyond 13 episodes), and I'm also kinda sorta thinking next year might be the last, so... they might go for 'finality' rather than give her an open-ended exit...

I haven't watched the other night's yet. About to do that now (and I expect to have a couple warm boy kitties laying on me... last night, it was Oliver on my shoulder - have to crane my neck a bit to see over him - and Milo between my legs... ahhh, so nice that they can co-exist a little better now...)
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I wouldn't have taken Bishop's deal. Having his hand around my neck forever....

I have also thought that Bishop will have Kalinda killed or she will be killed because of some business with Bishop, on behalf of Cary. Who doesn't deserve her by half. Hate that he took the deal.

The daughter is an idiot but also young and naive. Alicia: now that is an idiot for you. I don't like the election stuff at all. I think what I am really missing is Diane.
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Why do you think Alicia is an idiot? I don't like any of this season's plots as well as past
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Cuesta's POV (bathroom misadventures, quest for Neil Diamond tickets) was fun.

Grace's civics teacher is awful. If she knew and understood it to be a joke, she should not have gone to the principal... oh, but she's got an ulterior motive. Okay, then.

Eli and Johnny's reactions were very funny.

I'm glad I don't suffer from Auditory Processing Disorder (though it would make listening to long boring things a lot more interesting, for sure...).

Mike Colter (Bishop) is up for one of the leads in the Marvel Netflix series, I think he'd be good.

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>>>>>Cuesta's POV (bathroom misadventures, quest for Neil Diamond tickets) was fun.
Yeah, and apropos of what TGW does so well - those slice of life glimpses of all the peripheral things that connect and you don't even realize they connect. Like, despite being a professional of COURSE his tough day has an impact on Cary's life because it can subtly affect his rulings.

>>>>>they might go for 'finality' rather than give her an open-ended exit...
True except I think it would dilute Will's death to have Alicia mourning and thinking about both?

I was hoping APD guy stuck around. He was pretty good as a regular on Revolution.
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I'm not sure they'd play Alicia mourning Kalinda... but I agree, they likely won't do main cast deaths in consecutive years.
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