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| Krystal | Oct 25 2014, 03:40 PM Post #151 |
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I totally don't care if I even see the last epis due to the fact of the 2 short seasons being so far apart. And I really don't care what Weiner ever does as I think he is a granstanding prick. |
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| Dax | Oct 25 2014, 04:08 PM Post #152 |
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Weiner is arrogant. He's good, and he knows it, and that can be an annoying trait in people. But I love, love, love his work... AMC split the season. It's their fault, not Weiner's. Holding it against the show makes as much sense as blaming Michael Jackson for climate change. I'd like to have watched the final episodes already, sure, but... I've not terribly minded having them to look forward to, either. Sigh. And I'd like to see Jon Hamm win a Best Actor Emmy. He deserves it. |
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| tgir | Oct 26 2014, 06:18 PM Post #153 |
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Dax, I think I am in exactly the same position that you are re: Mad Men. I wish the season had not been split but I am glad there are more episodes to come. I think Weiner is arrogant and isn't as good as he thinks he is. I'd love to see Hamm win an Emmy for his work. And I'd like to see him move on to other projects, hopefully breaking out of the mold he's been cast in a little bit. |
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| Dax | Oct 26 2014, 06:37 PM Post #154 |
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Reviews for Weiner's first film (Are You Here) were mostly pretty brutal (but I'm still really interested in seeing it, and anything else he ever does...). Following Hamm's post-MM career should be fun. I think he's done pretty well already in side-focusing on a lot of comedy (SNL, 30 Rock, Bridesmaids)... I don't expect he'll be stuck in Don Draper-ish roles... |
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| Krystal | Oct 26 2014, 08:26 PM Post #155 |
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Dax, there is no climate change. Rush Limbaugh says so :) I really don't care who split it up, I just got into it and Poof, it was done, then the same thing will happen and it will be gone. Right now, I don't care. Hamm will do OK I predict... |
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| Dax | Nov 25 2014, 02:19 AM Post #156 |
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mad-men-matthew-weiner-final-751959 |
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| blosslover | Nov 25 2014, 07:37 PM Post #157 |
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Matt Weiner was given a special award at the International Emmys last night. John Slattery and Christina Hendricks presented it to him. Unfortunately due to rights issues, the video clip package isn't posted online at iemmys.tv |
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| Dax | Dec 15 2014, 03:41 PM Post #158 |
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http://deadline.com/2014/12/christina-hendricks-cast-roadies-cameron-crowe-pilot-showtime-1201324623/ Cool. |
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| Dax | Jan 10 2015, 02:24 PM Post #159 |
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7.8 airs April 5th. (Puts the finale on May 17th, one presumes...). Of course, I was hoping the announcement would be accompanied by a 'Surprise! There are TEN more, not just seven', but... oh, well... http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/mad-men-cast-says-farewell-press-tour-live-blog |
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| Dax | Feb 17 2015, 05:45 PM Post #160 |
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http://www.vulture.com/2015/02/mad-men-will-be-canonized-at-museums-across-us.html |
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| Krystal | Feb 17 2015, 06:17 PM Post #161 |
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I really don't care anymore. |
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| tgir | Feb 17 2015, 06:47 PM Post #162 |
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I have really enjoyed Mad Men and am looking forward to the next set of episodes. I am sorry that it is ending but also think it is probably the right time, story wise and also for the characters and more importantly, the actors. I think the acting has been stellar throughout. I don't think the show deserves to be canonized in museums across the country. Really, I think we need to get a grip, here. Also (ducking now) Game of Thrones is just not that good. Some great acting but storywise? Not so much. And that's discounting the background of violence and violence/sexual violence towards women. |
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| Dax | Feb 17 2015, 08:05 PM Post #163 |
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I agree that Mad Men is ending at the length it should (90 episodes, or 92 tv hours...), and having told the story duration (the sixties) Weiner set out to do. I don't see anything wrong with its sets/costumes being honored in museums. I think it's an important work that will still be regarded as one of the finest acheivements in television fifty years from now... and a hundred years from now... as long as people are still populating our planet. Like The Wizard of Oz and Gone With the Wind are 'classic films'... Mad Men is that to television. Game of Thrones... Kinda 'to each their own'... It's not for everybody. It's maybe a little uneven- interest rises and falls based on what characters we're spending time with... I think it's an incredible piece of filmmaking and an extraordinary spectacle... I'm eager to see what happens next, but I suppose it could all fall apart somehow by the end. I'm very much enjoying the ride. |
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| Krystal | Feb 17 2015, 08:31 PM Post #164 |
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I feel like I have been jeered around and that makes me angry. I can't even remember the last episodes and by the time I get back into it, it will be over. I really enjoyed the first couple years but got to resent Weiner and he jaded my appreciation of the show. I have never watched Game of Thrones as I don't like that type of show though I know many like it. |
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| Dax | Feb 17 2015, 08:49 PM Post #165 |
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Resent Weiner why? He jaded your appreciation of the show by...? Don marrying Megan? Peggy never being lucky in love? Joan whoring herself for a partnership? Since AMC is doing the split final season deal with Hell on Wheels, too... Have you decided to not watch any more? Mad Men won't get the same result, I'm sure, but the strategy DID pay off huge for Breaking Bad... The premiere of the second half of the season got 5.92 million viewers... The previous episode had 2.78. A lot of people catching up with it towards the end... |
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| Krystal | Feb 17 2015, 09:13 PM Post #166 |
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Just the long long time between seasons. And him turning Don into more or less a total asshole. And Weiner being a total asshole. |
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| Krystal | Feb 17 2015, 09:16 PM Post #167 |
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I am allowed to have opinions which differ from yours, Dax. |
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| Dax | Feb 17 2015, 09:22 PM Post #168 |
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Of course. I don't mind at all that our opinions differ. I never have, I never will. I respect our differences in taste, and I enjoy where our tastes overlap. Good discussions have been had, both ways. But again, the long time between the seasons is something Weiner was not responsible for. It was not his choice, or his preference. Oh, he'll try to be as diplomatic about it as he can and say that it was an interesting 'challenge' to create another finale and premiere, but... it's not what he wanted, and it's not something you should hold against him. Gizzy is as responsible for the decision as Weiner was, and had as much say in the matter. This has nothing to do with your opinion of the work, or mine. It's just factual. Don being an asshole IS Weiner's (almost sole) responsibility, sure (with the other half of the credit or blame going to Hamm for his performance), but... I think Don has kinda become LESS of an asshole than he used to be... I know you said you don't remember where we left off, but we're in the middle of something of a redemptive character arc... Don PAID for his assholiness with kinda sorta being kicked out of his own company and he's had to earn his way back... and it's interesting that as much of a cad Don has been in so many ways... 'we' ROOT for him, anyway. Weiner being an asshole hasn't jaded your appreciation of the show. If you got past, like, the first year, you should be able to get through seven more hours. But if you don't care... don't watch 'em. Doesn't matter to me... |
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| Dax | Feb 17 2015, 11:33 PM Post #169 |
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http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/02/mad-men-season-7-jessica-pare http://www.ew.com/article/2015/02/16/ladies-mad-men-strut-their-stuff-exclusive-new-photos-and-video |
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| Krystal | Feb 18 2015, 09:30 AM Post #170 |
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Side note. Don't really care about HOW. dh likes it a lot. |
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| Dax | Feb 18 2015, 10:10 AM Post #171 |
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It's a good show, but not one of 'the greats'... It has made me more interested in catching up on a lot of movie Westerns 'someday'... Many I haven't seen, always a genre I kinda ignored.... |
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| Dax | Feb 18 2015, 12:22 PM Post #172 |
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http://www.thewrap.com/mad-men-final-season-first-look-features-john-slattery-reflecting-on-roger-sterling-exclusive-photos-video/ http://www.hitfix.com/news/mad-men-final-season-lets-get-sad-to-these-new-season-7-photos |
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| tgir | Feb 19 2015, 12:27 AM Post #173 |
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Dax, it's probably just my own internal musings but I find that it bothers me that television shows are so easily deemed 'iconic' just as I have to suppress my gag reflux every time I hear something is 'amazing.' Not everything or even every good thing, or even every really good thing is amazing or iconic. It's just me, so please don't take it seriously. I have immensely enjoyed Mad Men, even when I disliked many of the characters and have been frustrated by some of the storylines or even furious (Joan whoring herself) and I think that Weiner is something of a misogynist--not because he depicts misogyny but because I think it is his point of view, on some level. But of course that is unfair of me: I don't know the man. Maybe I am wrong. I agree that Don has become less of an asshole as the show progressed. We have seen much of his background, so we understand the roots of his desire to reinvent himself, and how his chosen profession is a perfect vehicle and perfect metaphor for the man. I'll be sorry to see the show finished but I also think it is the right time to end the series. GoT: I think I have just had my fill and then some of dark stuff. And I really don't care to see rapes as background noise. Just: no. |
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| Dax | Feb 19 2015, 01:13 AM Post #174 |
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I don't see Weiner or Mad Men as misogynist. I agree there are a great many unlikable characters on the show, but it's not something that bothers me. I expect Weiner will probably concentrate on films a bit for awhile, but I hope he has another long-form tv series in him. I'd love to see another. Excited to see where Moss and Hamm's next few career moves are, and it'll be lovely to see Shipka in anything... hope to see Slattery in something again sometime soon, I love him... All of them, really. It's such an 'amazing' (ha!) cast (... I don't KNOW if I like January Jones as an actress or not... I think she was perfect as Betty, but that might be 'too small a sampling' to be sure how I feel about her...) GoT is very dark. Yes. Really very deeply dark. I am glad I do not live in its world. |
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| KMInfinity | Feb 19 2015, 09:32 AM Post #175 |
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>>>>>GoT is very dark. Yes. Really very deeply dark. I am glad I do not live in its world. There was some kind of spoof-game online awhile ago where they gave you options to 'prepare to enter westeros' and see how long you'd survive. :D |
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| blosslover | Feb 19 2015, 09:04 PM Post #176 |
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GOT is based on the War of the Roses so the bloodiness is understandable. Back to topic, you all know I love Mad Men, and was upset about the time break. If they had made each mini-season slightly longer or only had it be a few months (one in 2014-2015 season and one in 2013-2014) it wouldn't have been bad. Then again I would have loved them to hit 100... When I watched the 70s music preview I was stunned as that song came out mid-decade at least that version (looked it up as I was curious). Would they really jump that many years because then it screws up our Sally's age... I too wonder where the actors will go next, some of them I consider myself a fan of, though others I haven't seen in enough projects to be able to judge. |
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| tgir | Feb 19 2015, 11:42 PM Post #177 |
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Dax, I think the story of Joan whoring herself for a partnership really was what made me see Weiner as a misogynist, rather than simply someone writing about a time when sexism was rampant. Remember, I actually remember those days and I find a lot of it to be..exaggerated and romanticized, actually. |
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| Dax | Feb 20 2015, 12:35 AM Post #178 |
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Hitting a 100 would have been nice. Or... Yeah, 10 and 10 would have been far kinder than 7 and 7. And Breaking Bad's 8 and 8 break was a little less bothersome because they USED that year to make the last eight, where MM has been 'in the can' for awhile now... Joan made a choice that gave her power and money and respect she didn't have before, and she didn't sacrifice any of her self-respect in the process. She's not ashamed or regretful, and she doesn't at all present like anybody's victim. I can't speak to the realities or falsehoods or exaggerations of the sexism of the time as presented, but it PLAYS 'real'... It's entirely 'believable', even if it's not 'true'. Peggy is one of the greatest female roles in the last ____ years and though I/we have been gnashing our teeth over the criminality of Hamm not receiving an Emmy for his efforts, it's really similarly astounding that Moss hasn't gotten one, either... http://www.tvguide.com/news/exclusive-mad-men-video-elisabeth-moss-on-peggys-evolution/ |
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| Dax | Feb 23 2015, 03:42 PM Post #179 |
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http://www.vulture.com/2015/02/mad-men-season-seven-poster.html |
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| tgir | Feb 23 2015, 04:28 PM Post #180 |
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OK, I'm getting excited here. RE: photos from your link. I remember those outfits. So. Well. From my life only obviously not done so well. Sally's dress is a bit over-done. I swear I drooled over pants like Megan's (but not in white and no, I never had them as I would never have had any place to wear them being, well, too young and too small town but boy have I been waiting to see those). Since I know that Dax is a huge fan of Elizabeth Moss, I want to plug: The One I Love here. I've been wanting to see it and just did. I really liked it but I confess it did not go where I thought it was going, from an examination of a marriage to well, sci fi at the very end. I kind of wish it hadn't done that at the end but I don't know they could have avoided it given the set up. But really liked the performances. Especially adored Elizabeth Moss. Oh, and we got a little Ted Danson, which I always enjoy. Enough to make me wish that Mad Men had used him instead of Harry Hamlin but then I would have had a hard time hating the character because: Ted Danson and we need to hate the character. |
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