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Parenthood; Season 2
Topic Started: Oct 20 2010, 12:33 AM (1,491 Views)
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The worst part is that by skipping through all the eppys I now want to rewatch the whole show from the pilot.

Anyway, in the pilot when Drew ran to his Dad, Amber wasn't there at all.
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I love Michael Emerson. So much.

I didn't like the writing that made Adam and Christina total idiots... the man behaves a great deal like Max at their table presenting a list of rules and conditions for the party, goes to the bathroom for a SHOWER, and... (cut to credits - but THEN what happened?) it doesn't even occur to them until the next morning... the woman at the school has to TELL Christina that Andy has Asperger's. Grr. And then I didn't like the scene where they're being assholes and decide not to hire him...

Poor Crosby. Jasmine wasn't giving him any CHOICE, really... I mean... gah. He HAD to have sex with Gaby. It was important. I mean, come on. He's a prime candidate for sainthood for having resisted the first (margarita) night.

I love the title of next week's episode - it's 'Do Not Sleep With Your Autistic Nephew's Therapist'.
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ME was amazing.

I didn't like A+C being cluelees, but I guess it was normal that they were worried as their prime concern is Max and how he his and his party goes. To be honest, I'm glad they weren't all saint and didn't know what to do and did the right thing at the end.

I hate what they did with Crosby. I though him being a father and a fiance would make him an adult. I hate, on Tv in general, when a couple fights and then one of them sleeps with someone else, I really hate it.

As for Jasmine, I don't like her part in it either. She always takes Jubar away from Crosby as a punishment and I may hate that even more.
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It can be 'normal' for an it's-okay-for-them-to-be-ignorant kind of character (Zeke not paying attention to all the warnings before the camping trip, or in this one, first encountering Andy - 'Well, he's kind of rude'), but it really didn't make ANY sense for Adam and Christina to 'miss' that something was a little 'off' with Andy... they're supposed to have read up a little on this by now, you know?

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I agree. The "normal" was for them being cautious about hiring him after they had found out. The "being clueless" was very weird and unbelievable. Who else should notice that something is off than them?
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Yeah, I appreciated Adam's at least giving lip service to 'I don't want to be a hypocrite, but...' - but I felt they came to the 'Okay, we're too uncomfortable with hiring him' conclusion way too fast. Of course, only a very temporary problem, but still.
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I know, it bothered me, too. Maybe it was a time issue. Too much was happening, as it always is on Parenthood, and I guess they've shortened the whole plot and it turned out the way we don't like too much.

I'm mad at Crosby for sleeping with the therapist, but if it means a break up for him and Jasmine, I may be glad. I cannot find my way to the character. Since the beginning she's been using Jubar as a tool to navigate or punsih Crosby and I don't like it at all. On the other hand, the portrayer is super beautiful and it's like watching a princess when she's on.

Great scenes with LG and her close family. Loved the ending when Amber came to her and told her he loved her. So sweet. It must be so difficult for Sara to let Drew be with his Dad. I'm glad he's sober but his anger issues worry me.

I'm sure I've mentioned it already, but I don't like Zeak, he's such a bully, the way he talks to his kids is often over the top. In some ways, he's not a better role model for Drew than Seth. I guess he means well, but he's too cruel and strict.
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The Sarah/Amber scene was very sweet.

Seth/Zeke fight... Seth was a jerk first... anytime anybody says 'I don't like you, you don't like me, let's just be civil', they've stopped actually being civil... but of course, Zeke is the first to get physical...

Yeah, there's a good/bad thing to Drew standing up to the bully... didn't like Seth's attitude in the parent conference at all, though...

I'm less concerned with Crosby/Jasmine than I am Gaby-quitting-Max as a consequence...
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Dax, did you hear about Charlie's Angels?

Seth / Zeke (btw is it Zeke or Zeak?) - I totally agree, Seth wasn't civil at all and I think he should have been. I agree, they don't have to love each other, but they could respect each other for the kids and Sarah. Especially now, when it looks like Seth is really sober. I jsut wish he'd stay that way for Drew. He really needs a father, not just a father figure. I don't think I want him back with Sarah, but he can be there in the background, spending time with the kids offscreen.

As for Drew, personally, I hate violence, I don't think he should fight his schoolmates, on the other hand I know that sometimes a right punch at the right time works better than thousand words, go and figure. I jsut don't want for Drew to become his Dad or Grandad.

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>> Dax, did you hear about Charlie's Angels?

Yeah, if that gets picked up, I'll have to at least watch the first one...

>> btw is it Zeke or Zeak?)

Hm. Neither, actually. According to the NBC site, it's Zeek. And Kristina with a K. (And another 'oops' I've been making - Bizzy, not Busy, on PP).
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Oops, sorry Bizzy :)
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Very strong episode. Made me cry. Next week looks like a killer.

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Yeah, very good. So many great scenes. Only the Sydney-vegetarian stuff wasn't super high-stakes drama.

Mae Whitman's big explosion was outstanding. So glad Sarah didn't let Seth leave without telling the kids himself...

(I didn't cry, but the previews for the next week maybe made my eyes a little wet... it's definitely time for Max to know)
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I loved the eppy, but I always does. The promo is heartbreaking, I cannot wait to see it.

BTW I'm rewatching it from the pilot again. The show is superb.
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Only the Sydney-vegetarian stuff wasn't super high-stakes drama.
Actually it was high-stakes drama ... at least for me. I loved the talk Camille had with Julia. I wish Camille had been my mom.

Poor Max. Next week is going to be rough. How do you tell a kid they mental problem in a way in which they can comprehend?

Great great show!
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So sad. My heart was breaking for both Adam and Kristina when they had to tell Max, twice.

I also feel sorry for Crosby though he made his bed, pun intended, now he has to lie in it. I'm glad that Jasmine wasn't taking Jabar away from him this time. She always does that and I don't like it at all. I don't know whether I want them to work things out as they are my least favourite couple, but I want to see what happnes next with them.

I missed Amber :(

Sarah's arc could be interesting if this is the direction they are going with her. She needs to build some confidence. OT: I watch Gilmore Girls reruns almost daily and we've just had the eppy with Jason giving her the talking key, Rory's frist spring break at Yale and the drunk call to Dean. Luke was arrested for kicking the car of Nicole's supposed love. "I'm not wearing my socks."
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>> Luke was arrested for kicking the car of Nicole's supposed love. "I'm not wearing my socks."

Strangely doesn't sound familiar. My poor memory...

Yeah, it was a bummer not to have Amber in the ep with Sarah reaching out to Ritter... (or Haddie, either, with Adam, Kristina, and Max...).

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Exactly, it was so weird not to have Haddie around for all the Max drama.

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Luke is not wearing his socks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wBwTKb7jRI
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Why does my nitwit dvr say this is a new episode and have it scheduled to record? hmmppphhh....
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Wishful thinking?
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YAY for Steven Weber joining! http://www.tvline.com/2011/03/parenthood-steven-weber-romance-sarah-spoilers/

I cannot wait for this hiatus to be over, it's killing me. THough it makes me able to catch up with my "reruns". I've rewatched the whole first season and I'm about to hit 202 when I get to the gym again as it's where I watch it.
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I'm speechless, i was so not expecting this ending. I almost fell off of my cross trainer in the gym while watching. I was expecting a SL with Amber on drugs or on the run, anything but this.

I can't believe it's the finale next week, so soon :( Plus, still no news re the pick-up for next season. What are they waiting for?

Especially now, when they have Steve GOD Weber there, he must stay and he must be a regular in the third season, I adore him and I need my S60 fix in any form.

I think the whole SL with Haddie was nicely done, believable to me. SHe lied at first as you would expect any teen and then she came clean to her Mum who came clean to her as well, so sweet.

What was missing there was a big famiyl scene but judging by the promo, we'll get plenty next time. So happy to see Jasmine there with them. I don't think I want her with Crosby, but she's a part of the family now. I love dthe other they how Julia and Joel stayed with her isntead of going out for their big date, so sweet.

I should find a new ending for my paragraphs :)

Parenthood is simply the best family drama on air now, it may become my favourite family drama of all time. It used to be Gilmore Girls, but their family was more nuclear, this is better.
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I was mixed about this eppy. I thought (think) the Amber SL is a little too contrived. Too soapy. imo, they had a nice character driven path about Amber becoming adult in a very realistic way, with lots of emotional, conflicted issues. Thrusting her into this mess is forcing the character to serve the plot a little too simplistically and the "easy" way to create story.

I'm also really bored with the whole Crosby SL. I understand he's considered a *star* so needs to be front and center....but the Peter Pan/Jasmine stuff doesn't work for me.

I'm not sure how I feel about Richard Dreyfuss as Sarah's mentor....I can't stop thinking - boy RD looks small and old. What's so great about this part that they lured him onto a network TV show???

I do really like Haddie's stuff.

Shelle - I agree that the extended family scenes are gold. But I don't want some artificial *family togetherness* the way Brothers and Sisters so often forces. It would be nice to have some more balance in the stories and character focus and a more natural way that they family comes together regularly.

In GG we had the "nuclear" family but the town was the real family. This has a long way to go to be as good as GG for me.
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Why is Crosby / Dax considered a star?

I started looking for Lauren Graham, Mae Whitman and David Krause starring in it, they were my reasons to watch the show.

I agree about the crash being a device we don't need at this point. I hope they will work with it in a good way to satisfy us. I think that they've been using cliches since the beginning but it's how they execute it what makes it so much better than B&S now.

I agree, we need the family scenes but I don't want them to be forced, it must look natural and unintentional.

As for GG, I know what you mean with the town being the family. However, it changed for me after the first three seasons, I think. When I watch the reruns, and I do most of the year, if it's an eppy from the first three seasons, I always watch the whole eppy, every single scene without FFing. I cannot say the same for later seasons when I FF a lot, never Lorelai's scenes, but many scenes with Rory or Lane and the band and the town. I've seen all of them many times already so I don't miss anything, I just don't have time for it anymore. Basically, most of the series is all about Lorelai and her rletionship with her parents and Rory for me. That's why I call it a nuclear family, as for me, it is. It hasn't started that way though.

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I was mixed about this eppy. I thought (think) the Amber SL is a little too contrived. Too soapy. imo, they had a nice character driven path about Amber becoming adult in a very realistic way, with lots of emotional, conflicted issues. Thrusting her into this mess is forcing the character to serve the plot a little too simplistically and the "easy" way to create story.
For me the Amber SL is too realistic. Sometimes when I watch this show I wonder if they aren't stealing a scene out of my life.

I too am bored with the Crosby storyline. It's just not going anywhere fast enough. It's time to move on.

I also missed the family get together.
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The problem with Crosby (and I like the character) is that it has been the same SL from the start. He screws up, Jasmine take Jabbar away, he fixes it and they are more or less happy together until he screws up again. For me as a viewer, it's too repetitive and I don't care anymore whether they are a couple or not.
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LOVED LOVED LOVED the finale.

I won't comment on it more as I don't want to spoil anything.

I was only bummed that Steven Weber wasn't there :( I though he would be in the last two eppys. Apart from that, the finale was brilliant and someone please finaly give LG the Emmy like right now. having said that, I think the whole cast is amazing and they all deserve any praise they get.

Also, I've heard the ratings were quite good and I really hope it means we'll get the third season.
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I agree Shelle. Nice way to wrap up the season and it looks good for a return next year. :D
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Great finale. The scene with Max at the hospital was just so realistic and painful. I guessed it wasn't Haddie who was pregnant. lol The material with Sarah and the play was excellent too. I was worried that wouldn't "fit in" well.
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