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Survivor: Nicaragua; Season 21
Topic Started: Jul 29 2010, 10:58 PM (2,607 Views)
Cheryl
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OMG. I don't think I've ever seen Jeff Probst so pissed and disgusted with any two players. Love that he didn't even try to hide his disdain.

Naonka was actually growing on me, not that I thought she was this wonderful person or anything but she made me laugh and that goes a long way with me. Purple Kelly was kind of a non-issue. She was rarely featured, now I know why. Losers!

I've only watched the first Ponderosa clip so far but Brenda seems to have a great attitude about it. Good for her. I think Alina is still majorly pissed. LOL.

http://nicaragua.survivor.com/episodes/episode-12-survivor/2010.12.02/naonka-kelly-pt-1-survivor-nicaragua-life-at-ponderosa.html
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Naonka amuses. Fascinating 'reality show' 'character'. If scripted in fiction, the note would be 'No, that's too much, this one's TOO over-the-top'. Unfortunately, she's real.

After Kelly B left, couldn't they have let the 'Purple' Kelly thing go? (Of course, it sounds horrible, but I think they should have differentiated them by One-Foot Kelly and Two-Foot Kelly... What? It's funny. Don't hate).

I find One-Foot Kelly very attractive.
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I wish they would have just started calling her Kelly or blonde Kelly.
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I guess she had purple streaks in her hair, hence the Purple Kelly. I never knew that until I watched one of the Ponderosa clips where she talks about not having any purple left in her hair. Nicknames pretty much stick once they are given so I can understand why she remained PK to the end.
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Two quitters in one show pretty much sucks, though I was starting to wonder how they were going to get rid of so many when I think we have only a couple weeks left. It seems they shouldn't be a part of the jury but I do understand why they are. I wondered if it was easier for Purple Kelly to quit after Naonka said she was quitting. I wished Jeff had asked PK first if she was going to stay or go. Naonka quitting was more of a surprise to me than her not being willing walk away from the reward in order to get the rice and the tarp.

I like the name "Purple Kelly", as I think it has a nice ring to it. But Kelly is a bit of a bore.

It was cool that Alina was so moved by emotion that she was crying there at the end, though it did make me chuckle a little. I need to watch those new Ponderosa videos!
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On my television even early on I didn't see the purple streaks (perhaps it was due to how little airtime she had)...so the name made no sense.
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I didn't see the purple streaks, either. I thought maybe she wore a purple shirt, so they used that as their way of identifying her. Not that I ever paid enough attention to her to realize she probably wasn't wearing a purple shirt.
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Add me to the list who didn't see the purple streak! LOL ... I thought I was just getting old. :P
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bah humbug. Those two are being crucified on Survivor sites. I remember Janu. Didn't like her.
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Something about Sash seems real crazy to me. If I knew him in person, I don't think I'd ever trust him. I thought they were going to evict Fabio, so the Benry vote surprised me a bit. I don't know why the jury members were shaking their heads in what looked like disgust. Evicting Benry was a smart move for Chase and his crew.
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Dec 9 2010, 12:16 AM
Something about Sash seems real crazy to me. If I knew him in person, I don't think I'd ever trust him. I thought they were going to evict Fabio, so the Benry vote surprised me a bit. I don't know why the jury members were shaking their heads in what looked like disgust. Evicting Benry was a smart move for Chase and his crew.
Sash is creepy....and full of himself! I liked him better when he was the underdog, at least there was a hint of humbleness to him. He seems like an arrogant bastard most of the time.

SOOOO happy that my cutie pie dum-dum Fabio didn't get the boot! I'm rooting for Fabio or Holly. Holly has ended up being much smarter and tougher than I ever would have thought from watching her lose her shit at the beginning of this journey.

Only two more episodes! :(
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Dec 10 2010, 12:00 AM

SOOOO happy that my cutie pie dum-dum Fabio didn't get the boot! I'm rooting for Fabio or Holly. Holly has ended up being much smarter and tougher than I ever would have thought from watching her lose her shit at the beginning of this journey.

Only two more episodes! :(
Don't you mean my cutie pie dum-dum Fabio? I just love him. Holly's voice gets on my nerves but she's one tough gal so I would be happy if she won too.
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I'm rooting for Fabio or Holly too. Maybe Chase.

Or even Dan, just for toughing it out this long.

Not much of a Jane fan, and Sash is a jerk, imo.
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I'm rooting for Jane, Fabio, or Holly. I don't care for any of the other ones.
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Dec 10 2010, 09:58 PM
I'm rooting for Fabio or Holly too. Maybe Chase.

Or even Dan, just for toughing it out this long.

Not much of a Jane fan, and Sash is a jerk, imo.
Ugh...Dan. I'm still trying to figure out how he made it onto Survivor in the first place. Definitely don't want him.

Chase is just too damn stupid to root for. Seriously, he is very lucky that Sash chose his alliance to side with because after not taking him on the reward (after assuring him that he would) Chase should count his lucky stars to even still be in this game.

Jane is annoying but if she makes it all the way to the end, I wouldn't begrudge her the win. I don't see it happening though. They are all afraid of her. I think she'll be out fairly soon.

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Don't you mean my cutie pie dum-dum Fabio? I just love him.

Ummm......no........I meant MY cutie pie dum-dum, Ms. Greedy!!! :fryingpan:
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Well, they made that far more dramatic than it really was. Once Fabio won immunity, it was the perfect time to boot Jane-though I do wonder just how much of a sure thing she really was as a threat to win. I see four very clear anti Jane vote if she'd made it...unless Marty voted without any spite.

They've nearly always had a "goat" as the third finalist in a threeway, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if Dan goes next. The final four, with Sash, Chase, Fabio, and Holly are all worthy in some ways, so a final three of them could split the vote. It's a jury of 9, so five locks you out...and in a three-way vote you can win with a minority. It's never happened.

The edgic editing analyzers are having shitfits since the editing has painted each of the final five as losers in some manner...
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WOO-HOO!!! VERY happy with the winner!!! :happydance:
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Pleased for the Fabio win. He truly has grace under pressure, real nice guy. Played just enough of a game for me to be happy with his win.

If you watched the live vote-reading carefully.... Fabio was spoiled by several well known spoilers to win---by a score of 7-2. So when it went to 3-3, then 4-4, you can see him getting wide eyed and worried.

Just LOVE Rob....two girls now. So odd for them to think that without a TV gameshow, they'd never have been. The vagaries of fate! I fully expected a major announcement as followup to Redemption Island twist...but not yet!!!

In general this jury was less vindictive - except for Jane. I am sorry she got the fan fave, most people I know on the Survivor boards despise her.

There's a huge controversy brewing-Jane apparently worked overtime at ponderosa poisoning the well against Sash, pounding it home that he was a snake. She's also accused him of colluding with others to make deals to share the money no matter who won: "If we are Final 3 we'll split the million." Such collusion is a major no-no for Mark Burnett and Co. Sash's defense? it was a strategy of lies and he never intended to share the money if he won! (That was cut from the final TC.) Notice Jeff asked Sash almost nothing.
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So Fabio knew ahead of time that he was the winner? That makes me feel a little better since I didn't like the way he was acting when the vote was being read, like he expected to win, so if he did it makes more sense. I'm happy he won, I was rooting for him. Not sure who I would have been rooting for if Holly had gone with Fabio though so he was smart to take Sash and Chase.

I was expecting a different announcement for the next season, perhaps that is after Redemption Island? Rob vs. Russell?





Edited by lexilou, Dec 20 2010, 07:12 AM.
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I think Jane got a good edit so I understood why non-board fans liked her enough to win the fan award.

Sash became the goat in a way, which was interesting.

I figured Fabio/Jud saw voting spoilers ergo his reaction.
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I thought Chase handled the finale very well. If he'd been more "leaderlike" earlier, he woulda won. It was his game to lose. Hope his Nashville plans come thru.

More details about the rumor re: Jane/Sash. Jane's accusations were made at the TC where she was booted. She also said Sash would PAY people not to evict him, and to vote him winner. The rumor is jeff stopped the cameras during TC, brought in production staff/lawyer and thrashed it out. None of the other players admitted it, so Sash stayed in the game since it was a he said-she said. BUT...some say the fact that not a single player voted for him is telling.

yeah the spoiler boards are abuzz with questions about why Rob VS Russell wasn't announced. If it's not true it's the biggest spoiler hoax/misinformation with traction in years... Very reputable people have said it's already in the can, so.... here's a link to a Redemption Island photo on Sucks. First post on p. 152 of the thread....Is that Russell?

http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/72391/t/Survivor-22-Russell-Hantz-vs-Rob-Mariano.html?page=152

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Very happy Fabio won. :)

I still need to watch the Pondorasa clips.

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I was happy with the Fabio win. If Chase had won, I'd have been happy with that, too. At first, I was surprised they got rid of Holly and kept Sash but I realize it was a good strategic move for the both of them. I thought the hate that Jane and Dan spewed at Sash during the question ceremony was a bit much. Maybe it was because of the Jane/Sash controversy?

Funny that Jeff gave Shannon the opportunity to 'clear the air' with his comment about Sash being gay and Shannon went and made himself look like an ass, again.

I, too, was expecting the Rob vs. Russell announcement. I had even told my friends I was watching with about it. The Redemption Island promo was a surprise, especially with Rob and Russell right there in the audience. Maybe they decided not to mention the Rob/Russell angle just to mess with those who thought they knew what was to come.

Does anyone have a tally of how the votes went?
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Dec 20 2010, 08:33 AM
I thought Chase handled the finale very well. If he'd been more "leaderlike" earlier, he woulda won. It was his game to lose. Hope his Nashville plans come thru.

More details about the rumor re: Jane/Sash. Jane's accusations were made at the TC where she was booted. She also said Sash would PAY people not to evict him, and to vote him winner. The rumor is jeff stopped the cameras during TC, brought in production staff/lawyer and thrashed it out. None of the other players admitted it, so Sash stayed in the game since it was a he said-she said. BUT...some say the fact that not a single player voted for him is telling.

yeah the spoiler boards are abuzz with questions about why Rob VS Russell wasn't announced. If it's not true it's the biggest spoiler hoax/misinformation with traction in years... Very reputable people have said it's already in the can, so.... here's a link to a Redemption Island photo on Sucks. First post on p. 152 of the thread....Is that Russell?

http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/72391/t/Survivor-22-Russell-Hantz-vs-Rob-Mariano.html?page=152

My eyes must really be bad. How anyone can see Rob or Russell in that photo is beyond me. Ok, the hat, maybe, and that's a big maybe.

I also hope Chase gets his dream. It would have been nice to actually be able to hear him sing last night though, kinda got lost in everyone clapping.
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I'm sure it'll be on-line, but it bothers me a lot that we have a 5-4 vote, and don't see - on the show - who voted for who. I know Jeff's got a lot of stuff to get to in just an hour, but either the standard video of holding-up-votes that we see for EVERY OTHER vote needs to be aired, or Jeff needs to do a show of hands thing during the reunion. Grr.

I was spoiled on who won because I went on facebook last night...

... but I would have guessed Fabio anyway during the tribal council. Kinda surprised there were FOUR votes for Chase...

The second Romber baby's picture is very cute. (I 'met' the first one, awhile back, when Rob and Amber came through my work...)

Sash certainly seems slimy.

I didn't really 'like' Jane, but admired how kick-ass she was in some of those challenges.

The Redemption Island premise is fun.

I would be very surprised if 'Rob vs. Russell' was just a misinformation game... much more likely that they're just withholding... have they ever revealed any casting 'surprises' (even if we obsessive-types knew about them already) on a reunion show? When Stephenie and James got to come back, maybe... I don't remember. Anyway, I'm still totally expecting that.
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Wiki keeps changing who voted for whom....I can't find the info on CBS. The damn site is so vid and ad heavy....I miss the good ol' days of text based websites..lol

amusing:

EW.com: You guys aren’t supposed to talk about who voted for whom after the final Tribal leading up to the reading of the votes, but the reality is that everyone always does, and you seemed extremely confident — until Chase went up 4-2. You get a little nervous there?

Fabio: Dude, yeah! Of course! I was like, ‘Wait a minute, this isn’t what I heard through the grapevine.’ What I think happened is that Alina said she decided to vote for Chase because she didn’t think he was going to get any votes, and Brenda did the same thing. So it was accidentally really close.


(Dax iIm sorry if it was me who spoiled you on FB. I was posting with my niece in Hawaii and should have held off....)
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I like that they've added Ponderosa videos (even if I never watch them, I like the idea of them), but the CBS Survivor site used to be SO much better than it is now... I miss the clear charts of voting totals and tribe switches and I liked that they used to be archived 'forever'... they're gone now. (From there, anyway, I'm sure somebody's got screengrabs 'somewhere'...).

It was you, yes. But it's okay.

A few entertaining moments and characters, but I wasn't very invested this season. A lot of names and faces I never got around to learning...

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I was also shocked that Jane won the fan vote. She turned into a bitter, ugly old lady there at the end. I was positive that Fabio was going to win that one too! I agree about Chase, if he had acted during the entire game the way he did at Tribal, he may well have won. As it is, I'm happy with Fabio's win. He has a lot of poise and wisdom for one so young, even if he is a bit goofy. And his love for his mother and his family is so sweet. I love that he broke down during Tribal and got all emotional. Even ol' hardass Benry was wiping his eyes! :P

Dan is an asshole. Never liked him......still don't. Jerk. :plzdie:
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Dec 20 2010, 09:01 PM
I was also shocked that Jane won the fan vote. She turned into a bitter, ugly old lady there at the end.
So true.

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Looking forward to next season. The commercial almost sounded like they were going to have to kill each other on Redemption Island to get back in the same. :P
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The thing that surprised me about Jane's Fan Fave win was that Jeff said she won by a landslide like never before. I'd have guessed that Fabio would have been a close second.

Jane, Holly or Naonka are most likely the other two votes for Chase. I'm curious which one of them chose Fabio.

Does anyone know how much of the million they get after taxes?
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